Oooh. Sorry to hear about the issues (though I'm of the same school of thought, I don't care about the issues my car has had since it's a lease...their car, their problem). I just got done driving a 2012 Saab 9-5 as a loaner for a week while my car was in for service. Interesting loaner for a Ford dealer.

Is there more sound dampening/better interior quality or is it just because the 435 is brand new? I thought they were the same exact car, minus door count.

 

They are the "same" car but as any car, they make improvements with every model year in areas we might or might not notice.

But the improvements are definitely there. Interior materials are the same but I would think they have addressed most of the common issues from prior model year, such as wind noise and steering feel.

So 2015> 2013

 

Holy crap a 4 year old Saab as loaner ?

Around here you only get 2015 or 2016 loaners

 

Fair enough. Evidently, it would be helpful if they incrementally improve the mechanicals under the hood too.

Most dealers around here you have to twist their arm to even get a loaner. I kind of was intrigued by the 9-5. It was one of the last Saabs made before going under. Cool styling, awful interior and driving dynamics, but the car definitely had character. Bummer the brand couldn't survive.

 

Clearly Ford isn't looking to upsell. I mean, they are Ford.

 

I used to love the bright blue 9-3 viggen

Just surprised at loaner

Heck my dealer started giving 2016 jewel eyes ilx weekend after they went on sale

Same with Lexus . Every loaner I get has 100-5000 miles at most

On the Lexus and Acura dealers it seems 10k+ mile service loaners right away go for sale as CPO cars

 

don't think I shared this here.... friend's new Charger Hellcat.... bone stock.... check out those numbers.......... and those curves..........

 

picture - it's the dark blue that shifts color a bit

 

Wow


did he pay over msrp?

 

he found a dealer that was proud of their strict policy to never markup.

 

 

Awesome color and awesome on MSRP


Wonder how many people are leasing hellcats, beating the heck out of them, and then turn in the key at end of lease


Or are people buying them an squirreling them away for Barret Jackson in 25 years

 

I would bet leases on the Hellcat are minimal to non-existant.

I have seen a couple Hellcat Challengers on the road. Some will be driven, many will be garage queens.

There is a Hellcat Charger for sale about 90 minutes from me...they claim its only one of two in all of CA...they are marking it up $30k

Completely ridiculous. Dodge told dealers not to mark up...their allocation will be based on it. If that car sits and doesn't sell...they wont get more allocation. And I realllllllly hope it sits and collects dust. But someone dumbass somewhere with more money than brains will most likely by it.

 

yeah, the car I posted, the dealer got allocated 1 Charger Hellcat. fking ONE. and my friend got it. damn!

 

All these effed up stealers with their markups..

 

in case you're wondering he got it because he had been calling around looking for dealers who might have one, and no dealer knew if they were getting any, let alone how many. So he found this one dealer that said they will never markup a vehicle, and he gave them his CC# in the interest of being ready to put money down. There was another buyer in front of him but he had not put any money into it. When they received word they were receiving one car, they called my friend and said since he had supplied credit card, they were moving him to #1 spot and ready to accept his deposit. He did so, and then they asked him what color and options he wanted, and the rest is history.

 

I said it.. the numbers are underrated.. fucking awesome.

 

no doubt. so it's around 780 hp off the showroom floor.


oh yeah, doing this on Friday:



not sure what kind of setup it is going to be, parking lot, cones, etc. etc. will have to see. taking pictures too (obviously) so stay tuned.

 

Sarlaac

Don't need to go 90 miles away

Local dealers were advertising msrp + 30-50k market adjustment

What do they think they got on their hands, a golf r? Lol

 

It's pretty nucking futs how it goes into boost so soon. He better buy tires in bulk when they go on sale. Tell him to get 555Rs.

 

Yumcha isn't going to like that.

 

Oh...we all already knew it. MOPAR!

 

I haven't paid attention to what dealers have. No point in looking since Im not buying.

I only know about this one because of a member from my club who notified by the dealer (they have bought 3-4 cars from them)

 

The dealership I bought the V from had a Challenger Hellcat as well as a '15 Viper GTS, no markup. They were both securely placed in the showroom. By the time I closed on the V a little over a week, both were gone.

 

Start somewhere around the 11 minute mark...and then start around the 21 minute mark for the tug of war.

The fucking Roar AND Whine from the Charger gives me wood.

 

 

Sarlaac

Buy your wife 4 door hellcat

She will appreciate the wood

And your neighborhood needs more mopar

 

Wanna front me the cash ;-) I certainly can't afford one at this time...or maybe ever.

 

Well at your mpg , saving $ is hard lol

 

With twins in preschool...I got more expensive worries than my mpg.

 

Remember same here

$2300 monthly bill
Can't wait for public school

Trading in the Lexus ct for the gas guzzler wagon isn't helping lol

Sigh

 

Yeah...Im pretty much at that same number. When did you dump the CT??? What did you get?

 

Dumped it thanksgiving
11 months and 27k miles of pure hell
Tsx wagon replaced it


Time to dream of hellcats and ctsv wagon for the orange dual city mini strollers

 

I guess I knew that and forgot My memory is failing.

Yeah, we have the black city mini...but we haven't used it in over a year now...I keep forgetting to sell it. Those go like crack in my neighborhood.

 

Nice I used to go to the Mercedes ones back in the day. I'm going to a BMW event where you can drive a 428 or 328d apparently spirited with a pro in the car. Anyone go to this one? Srika, how'd you get the AM one? Was that strictly invite or can I register if it's coming here?

 

Mother of god that Hellcat is beautiful. The color especially. I don't think I've ever seen that one before.

 

Screw the fatcat, RIPP the Durango!

 

Better...I want the hellcat engine in my durango, along with a matching hellcat style hood.

I'd get 3 maybe 4mpg....

 

I revived this thread from the dead

 

I think they sold the wrecked hellcat for ~40k
I'd imagine a crate engine is ~20k