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Old Jun 4, 2015 | 06:36 PM
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The luxuriousness on top of the performance ALWAYS comes at a high price. It's been like that and will be like that forever, unfortunately. haha

I'm a Mustang and M3/4 fanboy.
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Old Jun 4, 2015 | 07:02 PM
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Hellcats will eat M5/M6 for breakfast, lunch and dinner with 100 more HP and $40,000 - $60,000 left to spare...
Considering the M5 is under a half second behind a 1/4 mile and less than a quarter second behind 0-60, not exactly eating it breakfast, lunch, and dinner.

I don't recall the Hellcat being praised for it's handling abilities, although I couldn't find any Nurburgring data to support that thought.

It's comparing Apples to oranges really.
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Old Jun 4, 2015 | 07:29 PM
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Totally forgot about the Hellcat Charger - so in that case yes, not apples to oranges.

Any Nurburgring data for either Hellcats? I'd be curious to see a comparison between that and the M5/M6.
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Old Jun 5, 2015 | 03:25 AM
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that's a lotta CTS-V's


SoCal CTSV Meet by HunterSwift, on Flickr

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Old Jun 5, 2015 | 03:27 AM
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Originally Posted by SamDoe1
The GT350R is the track model. The normal GT350 is a normal Mustang with the bigger motor and associated performance mods. It still has nav, AC, good stereo, comfortable seats, etc. Certainly not as luxurious as a M4 but at $20k less...it doesn't really need to be and it's definitely not a bad place to be. It's as much a DD as a M4 is. The GT350R however, is not a DD and is a track car.

I've got nothing against the M3/4, I love them and have immense respect for what they used to be and what they represent. However, my gripe is that they just aren't worth what they are charging these days over the competition. Though the M3 is a much easier sell to me than the M4 because of its four door design.



Z28 is most definitely a track only car. I'm sure it's total dog shit on public roads. The Z06 is another performance bargain and will wipe the floor with many many cars costing tens (or hundreds) of thousands more.
oh oops forgot about the distinction between GT350 and GT350R. I think the Nurburgring time of 7:32 was for the R.

also regarding Hellcat racecourse performance, it's one of those cars that is not as speedy in the corners but makes up time - to some degree - on the straights and fast sections
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Old Jun 5, 2015 | 09:28 AM
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that's a lotta CTS-V's
Hey Mr. Photographer, is there a specific way to get that star effect from the lights? Is it the lens that is a causing that, and if so, how? I'm curious.

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Old Jun 5, 2015 | 09:36 AM
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Hey Mr. Photographer, is there a specific way to get that star effect from the lights? Is it the lens that is a causing that, and if so, how? I'm curious.

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Stop the lens down and/or get a star filter for your lens. Guessing it was the latter on this one.
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Old Jun 5, 2015 | 09:50 AM
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Originally Posted by RPhilMan1
Hey Mr. Photographer, is there a specific way to get that star effect from the lights? Is it the lens that is a causing that, and if so, how? I'm curious.

Thanks!
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Stop the lens down and/or get a star filter for your lens. Guessing it was the latter on this one.
the pic is f/13 so it looks like it was the former
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Old Jun 5, 2015 | 09:51 AM
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Old Jun 5, 2015 | 10:13 AM
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Originally Posted by SamDoe1
Stop the lens down and/or get a star filter for your lens. Guessing it was the latter on this one.
Originally Posted by srika
the pic is f/13 so it looks like it was the former
I'll have to experiment with that. Thanks.
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Old Jun 5, 2015 | 10:27 AM
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Originally Posted by srika
the pic is f/13 so it looks like it was the former
I didn't look at the exif but thanks for the correction.

You can get the same effect wide open with a star filter though.
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Old Jun 5, 2015 | 10:31 AM
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Originally Posted by RPhilMan1
I'll have to experiment with that. Thanks.
you should - it's fun. you will need a tripod or other stable platform as it's going to be a long exposure - just FYI
Originally Posted by SamDoe1
I didn't look at the exif but thanks for the correction.

You can get the same effect wide open with a star filter though.
I have never tried a star filter, got any examples? curious about what effect it would have (if any?) on the rest of the image
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Old Jun 5, 2015 | 10:35 AM
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I have never tried a star filter, got any examples? curious about what effect it would have (if any?) on the rest of the image
http://www.tiffen.com/star_filters.htm

There are a bunch of different kinds for different effects. It will do essentially the same thing as stopping down but you can use it at wider apertures. Also, you can cater the star to be whatever shape you want it to be.

With that particular image, stopping down is the best idea. The star filter will turn any bright spot into a star and with that one...it would be extremely distracting.
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Old Jun 5, 2015 | 03:05 PM
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Nod.. I'm suprised he didn't use a V filter..

Originally Posted by TylerT
Considering the M5 is under a half second behind a 1/4 mile and less than a quarter second behind 0-60, not exactly eating it breakfast, lunch, and dinner.

I don't recall the Hellcat being praised for it's handling abilities, although I couldn't find any Nurburgring data to support that thought.

It's comparing Apples to oranges really.

The Hellcat has ran the 1/4 in the mid 10s with DRs and has hit 60 under 3 seconds. The stock F10 M5 nor Hellcat have official numbers that I'm aware of, but the ZL1 ran the ring in 7:41. I think the Hellcat would be comparable. A tuned F10 M5 ran the ring in 7:53. Although no one is going to argue that the Hellcat is a track killer, I think it's the total package. Of course it's more purposeful in the straights, but it's no slouch.

Even if you were to consider Hellcat only a half second faster in the 1/4, that's a couple buslengths (literally). For ~30k less.. fuck yeah!
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Old Jun 5, 2015 | 03:38 PM
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Just chop in a cute star on the pic. Easy.
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Old Jun 5, 2015 | 03:46 PM
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You can ghetto chop bokehlicious filters..


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Old Jun 5, 2015 | 03:49 PM
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I'd make a dickbutt filter..
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Old Jun 5, 2015 | 07:41 PM
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Old Jun 5, 2015 | 08:07 PM
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Originally Posted by JS + BRZ


@ Ford Accord...
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Old Jun 5, 2015 | 08:15 PM
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@ Ford Accord...
With the front bumper from an M3.
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Old Jun 5, 2015 | 08:23 PM
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Looks kinda like a GS now.
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Old Jun 5, 2015 | 08:32 PM
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It actually looks pretty good.......


if i didnt know that is an m3 bumper
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Old Jun 5, 2015 | 08:35 PM
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I like it lol
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Old Jun 5, 2015 | 08:56 PM
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Originally Posted by JS + BRZ
I like it lol
Cuz, its a Ford Accord M.

The ultimate in American, Japanese, and German fusion. Best of all worlds.
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Old Jun 5, 2015 | 09:14 PM
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I like it too I thought it resembled the GS350 as well!
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Old Jun 5, 2015 | 09:21 PM
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I wonder what TLX will look like with that bumper? The bumper it self look like an authentic M3/M4 OEM bumper from look of the grill and side inserts. They probably cut it in half and mold into the top portion of the Accord bumper.

TLX Type M Sport?

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Old Jun 5, 2015 | 09:22 PM
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Old Jun 5, 2015 | 09:26 PM
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what? you know it looks good...
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Old Jun 6, 2015 | 12:57 PM
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So my always reliable TSX has decided today it doesn't want to start. The battery is brand new as of two months ago and shows 12.5 Volts. I know a lot about the TSX but I am not very much up on the engine and have zero clues of where to start besides maybe the starter.
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Old Jun 6, 2015 | 01:47 PM
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Make sure the battery posts are clean and tight. Wire brush the posts if you need to clear some sulphur build up. Can you hear the starter solenoid click? If so, the starter can be fouled with carbon build up. Hit the shit out of the armature. A few good bangs should clear enough carbon to get a good spool.

Now if you sucked in water in the engine and it's hydrolocked, keeping your flywheel from rotating.. Well.. Don't turn it over too much otherwise your starter will smoke and you'll need to replace it anyways.

I'm sure it's just the connectors or starter. Also, sometimes a battery can have 12 volts, but little juice. I doubt that's the case though.
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Old Jun 6, 2015 | 06:14 PM
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not my pick just something nice - 918 with Weissach Package


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Old Jun 7, 2015 | 05:40 AM
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Originally Posted by Majofo
Make sure the battery posts are clean and tight. Wire brush the posts if you need to clear some sulphur build up. Can you hear the starter solenoid click? If so, the starter can be fouled with carbon build up. Hit the shit out of the armature. A few good bangs should clear enough carbon to get a good spool.

Now if you sucked in water in the engine and it's hydrolocked, keeping your flywheel from rotating.. Well.. Don't turn it over too much otherwise your starter will smoke and you'll need to replace it anyways.

I'm sure it's just the connectors or starter. Also, sometimes a battery can have 12 volts, but little juice. I doubt that's the case though.
Thanks I will give that a shot. The starter location sucks though cause it is under the supercharger and the manifold for it. I can't even see the sucker at all.

It can't be water cause I never drive the thing in the rain lol.
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Old Jun 7, 2015 | 01:34 PM
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Get the battery stress tested. My guess is that it doesn't have enough cranking amps to turn the starter. Be sure to make sure the terminals are tight though.
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Old Jun 7, 2015 | 04:00 PM
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AZ group-pool and timeshare...?

The Porsche 959 is a rare beast, especially on these shores, and now one is coming up for sale. Auction house Gooding & Company will be offering this sinister-looking black 1988 ‘Komfort’ model for sale during August’s 2015 Pebble Beach Concours d’Elegance weekend—and the car is estimated to go as high as $1.8 million.

Depending on who you speak to, there were around 330 examples of the 959 built and only 50 of those made it to our shores. Since the model was never federalized, most of these were brought in under ‘Show Or Display’ paperwork. One of the U.S. owners of a 959 is Bill Gates, who purchased a brand new example only to have it impounded since it was never crash tested.

He worked tirelessly to get the Show Or Display rule passed and after a decade was finally able to drive it on the road. Now that the 959 is over 25 years old, it can be imported using standard methods and driven as the owner pleases so some have started to pop up at local auctions.

The 959 was a marvel for its time and still remains interesting to this day. The example to be sold is a ‘1 of 3’ car, painted in a special black and spending most of its life under factory maintenance. Power comes from a twin-turbocharged 2.8-liter flat-six that puts down 444 horsepower through the six-speed manual to all four wheels. It comes in at a slim 3,190 pounds which allows it to get to 60 mph in just 3.6 seconds.


Source: Rare Porsche 959 Coming Up For Auction
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Old Jun 7, 2015 | 05:04 PM
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Get the battery stress tested. My guess is that it doesn't have enough cranking amps to turn the starter. Be sure to make sure the terminals are tight though.
Battery is a 2 month old Optima yellow top. I have also tried using my jump pack with it and it still won't start.
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Old Jun 7, 2015 | 05:16 PM
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Battery is a 2 month old Optima yellow top. I have also tried using my jump pack with it and it still won't start.
Can you hear the click from the starter relay when you turn the key? If so, then likely the starter is bad or not getting power. If no, then start with the relay.
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Old Jun 8, 2015 | 04:56 PM
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Old Jun 8, 2015 | 05:13 PM
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^^^Wrong thread. Should be in the "WTF?" thread.
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The first thing that came to my mind after looking at that pic, "BMW drivers!" bahahaha
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Old Jun 8, 2015 | 05:19 PM
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The first thing that came to my mind after looking at that pic, "BMW drivers!" bahahaha
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