biker

All other vehicles use a better feature - the human driver.

SamDoe1

Did you miss the statement of "never depend on Autopilot"? That's a pretty powerful statement.

Also, the car should inform the driver at all times of emergency lights not just when the car is on autosteer.

civicdrivr

iTrader: (9)

Strange, the latest updates release notes say nothing about this.

https://www.notateslaapp.com/softwar.../release-notes

I do see this in the updated user manual though.



https://www.tesla.com/sites/default/...america_en.pdf

#1 STUNNA

How many millions of people die each year due to human drivers?

oonowindoo

That is part of human life.... YOU make certain decision and you suffer the consequences.
I would rather have that than putting my life in Elon's hand...

You are more than welcome to give your life to Elon. I would rather control my own life when I am driving.

BurnabyTSX

Guess who programs the code for the "Full Self" Driving feature?

biker

About 38K in the US last year and some fraction of that was caused by humans.

ttribe

Your commitment to unmitigated hyperbole is astonishing.

Comfy

Wow, radar cannot detect and respond to flashing lights, lol. Lidar ….???
The advantages of vision based system are slowly coming out. Pretty soon everyone will start switching over from radar / lidar to vision and then claim that they are the leaders in vision based technology (like Ford and GM are trying to say with regards to EVs now).

oonowindoo

says the person who dont even own or experienced such things...

Comfy

Is that the best you’ve got? Sorry that’s getting old. LOL.

SamDoe1

Most cars with driver assistance features have forward and backward looking cameras... How else do you think they do the lane centering stuff?

oonowindoo

he has a 2016 RDX... probably never seen a forward looking camera.... or a 360 view camera that you can rotate with your fingers on the screen...

#1 STUNNA

Since I'm known for charts and graphs, here you go




The number one killer of children worldwide? Human drivers.

Fuck them kids though, right?

http://apps.who.int/iris/bitstream/h...0-eng.pdf?ua=1

oonowindoo

even NFN would be impressed just how much hair one can split...

SamDoe1

That is honestly the dumbest thing I've read all day and it's only 11am.

Comfy

Exactly what I said, now they will start ditching radars and say that we are already using vision based cameras and are leaders in that technology.

Comfy

Aren’t you being a bit judgemental lately.

SamDoe1

They will? I doubt it. Vision systems are good at one thing and radars are good at others. I still disagree with Tesla's decision to omit radar, it was sold as a benefit when in reality they couldn't source enough radar units to build cars.

oonowindoo

If you dont wanna be judged, get off the internet...

civicdrivr

iTrader: (9)

Same ol' @#1 STUNNA , cherry picking charts and graphs

Read the report you screenshot that from. The Americas (and that includes Canada, Mexico and South America, have the second lowest death rate in 2016 - 15.6 per 100k.

What this article fails to mention - and the correlation you're trying to make - is the cause of death per 100k. How many of those deaths could really be stopped with autonomous driving (which doesn't exist btw). Speed, maybe. Drunk Driving? Possibly. Seat belt infractions? Nah. Child restraints? Nope. Helmets? Look around Florida. How many idiots don't wear helmets on their motorcycles?

Stop trying to manipulate data to support your halfassed argument.

oonowindoo

Let me answer that for him... the answer is ALL OF THEM!! With the help from Elon, no children will be killed by human drivers from now on!

SSFTSX

new chip is coming for Tesla self driving.
https://www.benzinga.com/news/21/09/...iconductor-ked

oonowindoo

@SamDoe1 Did you know you got a "like" from SSFTSX? 1 of the 5 during his entire existence here... The only 1 in 2021.

SamDoe1

Wut? Where and how?

Maybe now we can go see if the ridgeline can tow me off Hells Revenge.

oonowindoo

https://acurazine.com/forums/automot.../#post16739805

#66

dude.. you liked by a Bot... that is something...

SamDoe1

I feel like there should be a medal issued or something for this momentous occasion. I went and looked and didn't think that post warranted a like by anyone let alone him.

oonowindoo

That is why he is special..

#1 STUNNA

So human deaths in Asia, Europe, Africa, Australia don't matter? The fuck? Seat belt, child restraints, and helmet-related deaths would be reduced because there'd be fewer accidents, you only die from not wearing your seat belt when you crash, if you don't wear your seat belt and don't crash then you don't die. The crash was highly likely to be caused by a human except for crazy instances like lightning strikes, tornadoes, or a tree falling on your car. So yeah seat belt, child restraint, and helmet deaths would be reduced because there'd be fewer accidents.

The root cause of the vast majority of all accidents is the human controlling the vehicle dun goofed, to come one here and try to say otherwise, come on bruh

You ever see someone on a bike just die because they weren't wearing a helmet? Not because they got hit by a car driven by a human at 50MPH and didn't have a helmet, but like no helmet = instant death

LMAO civicdrivr logic....

oonowindoo

talk about extremism.... Someone please tell his guy that if you are on a bike and got hit by a car at 50mph... YOU can wear the biggest helmet on the planet and you will still die.

We should also get rid of human as leaders of the country.. cuz all they have done is kill other human...
Let's install AI to control all human... cuz human kill human..

All imperfection of human should be eliminated, so we need computer to do our jobs...

Where have i seen movies like this before...

Comfy

Now you’ll be living in those movies soon. Congratulations Schwarzenegger.

oonowindoo

and i will still see you driving your ICE RDX

Comfy

Now where have I seen it before…


https://www.reuters.com/business/aut...1-09-23/LONDON,


Sept 23 (Reuters) - Swedish carmaker Volvo Cars said on Thursday that its vehicle range will go leather-free or 'vegan-friendly' by 2030, offering instead bio-based and recycled materials to a customer base that increasingly wants sustainably sourced products.

"We've got a new generation of customers coming through, they're far more interested in the products they buy and having an ethical story behind them," Robin Page, Volvo's head of design, told Reuters. "They want to understand where the materials come from."

Volvo said the shift recognises customer concerns over animal welfare issues in the leather industry and the environmental impacts of cattle farming.

It also coincides with the sustainable aspirations of Volvo's plan to offer an all-electric car lineup by 2030.

#1 STUNNA

My friend pressed “the button” this morning…

#1 STUNNA

#1 STUNNA

so Jim agrees with everything I say about how important software is and vertical integration but I’m a deluded asshole

Comfy

So after trolling Tesla for so long, he finally got the memo.
Well all I can say is the first step in success is to admit your failures. Then understand it. Look at ways to get rid of the UWA and dealership baggages. Their massive debt and ICE technology sunk costs is a drag, and then address technology deficiency with regards to batteries and software. Now they realize, how far behind they are even to Volkswagen, forget about Tesla.
Ford got to start somewhere anyways.

#1 STUNNA

#1 STUNNA

civicdrivr

iTrader: (9)

Never said that. But since you brought it up, try to look at the bigger picture - the areas that have the most fatal accidents throughout those regions don't have modern roadways nor do they have the appropriate laws to enforce safe driving. How can autonomous driving work in these areas that don't have road markings or street signs? It can't. You even mentioned that in the past when those two dumbasses in a Model S died in Texas - no street markings, no autopilot. And this is assuming people in these areas can even afford a vehicle that has autonomous driving; again, if you read the report, you'd see that income was taken into account as well.

What's considered the worlds most dangerous road is located in India - the Zoji La. How is autonomous driving going to work here?




You continually jump to the last step in this utopia you want to live in without understanding the steps in between.

Who writes the code?

Your reasoning skills are seriously lacking. Talk about tunnel vision...

Seems safe. Glad to see that they are ignoring cross walks.