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10-21-2021, 02:04 PM
#1081
Team Owner
FULL Self Driving Beta rules for inattentive drivers
10-21-2021, 05:40 PM
#1082
Sanest Florida Man
10-21-2021, 05:48 PM
#1083
Team Owner
like the self parking shit, you would have been honked 10 times if there was a car behind you and that is how long it took you to "inches forward" to get a gate open. Sometimes Human > Computer.
10-21-2021, 09:43 PM
#1084
Because it is being trained. You don’t want your teenage learner driver to learn driving while drunk / high on drugs… do you? It’s the same. Tesla is giving the owners a chance to participate in the teaching/ training of FSD, so that when it is ready to drive itself, it doesn’t drive like a drunken / inattentive driver like the trainer was when it was being trained. That’s not rocket science.
10-22-2021, 05:57 AM
#1085
Race Director
Thread Starter
Because it is being trained. You don’t want your teenage learner driver to learn driving while drunk / high on drugs… do you? It’s the same. Tesla is giving the owners a chance to participate in the teaching/ training of FSD, so that when it is ready to drive itself, it doesn’t drive like a drunken / inattentive driver like the trainer was when it was being trained.
10-22-2021, 06:54 AM
#1086
Whats up with RDX owners?
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Because it is being trained. You don’t want your teenage learner driver to learn driving while drunk / high on drugs… do you? It’s the same. Tesla is giving the owners a chance to participate in the teaching/ training of FSD, so that when it is ready to drive itself, it doesn’t drive like a drunken / inattentive driver like the trainer was when it was being trained. That’s not rocket science.
What about those that share the road with them that are forced to participate as well?
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10-22-2021, 07:52 AM
#1087
10-22-2021, 07:55 AM
#1088
10-22-2021, 08:31 AM
#1089
Sanest Florida Man
It's exactly the same as training a 15 year old how to drive for the first time, it'll be ok, it's happened billions of times. At least in this instance the experienced driver still has control of the wheel, unlike when you let a teenager drive and the parent has to sit in the passenger seat and can't do too much to prevent a fuck up. FSDBeta has been out for a year now, any wrecks yet? Compare that number to the number of wrecks caused by humans in the last year and maybe redirect your fear-mongering to something more legitimate
Last edited by #1 STUNNA; 10-22-2021 at 08:35 AM.
10-22-2021, 09:12 AM
#1090
Ex-OEM King
I don't really think comparing FSD wrecks to human wrecks is at all a proper comparison given the vast difference in population size. Either way, at the end of the day even a FSD wreck is actually still a human wreck because the human is still responsible for driving the car making FSD not actually true. The car is very good at driving, especially on the highway, but not really in town for any appreciable amount of time. I use autopilot in town for about 30 seconds so I can open a snack/drink with both hands but that's about it. Reviews from real users are validating that it does some weird and sketchy shit with entering traffic and managing turns. Round abouts are another fun thing where it goes incredibly slowly through the round about. It still drives like a driver's ed teenager, not a competent driver, and has a long way to go before it gets to where comfy and stunna think it is.
10-22-2021, 09:32 AM
#1091
I don't really think comparing FSD wrecks to human wrecks is at all a proper comparison given the vast difference in population size. Either way, at the end of the day even a FSD wreck is actually still a human wreck because the human is still responsible for driving the car making FSD not actually true. The car is very good at driving, especially on the highway, but not really in town for any appreciable amount of time. I use autopilot in town for about 30 seconds so I can open a snack/drink with both hands but that's about it. Reviews from real users are validating that it does some weird and sketchy shit with entering traffic and managing turns. Round abouts are another fun thing where it goes incredibly slowly through the round about. It still drives like a driver's ed teenager, not a competent driver, and has a long way to go before it gets to where comfy and stunna think it is.
10-22-2021, 09:39 AM
#1092
Ex-OEM King
(that's the right talking point correct?)
10-22-2021, 09:47 AM
#1093
Azine Jabroni
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10-22-2021, 12:09 PM
#1094
Team Owner
So when the FSD is fully tested and implemented, any car accident is Tesla's fault right? Since it is FULLLL self driving.
10-22-2021, 12:57 PM
#1095
Sanest Florida Man
Thanks to Climate Change this is an important capability to have.
10-22-2021, 02:13 PM
#1096
Team Owner
You know what is worse than getting into a car accident on the freeway? Getting into a car accident under water...
10-22-2021, 02:57 PM
#1097
Ex-OEM King
You know what's better than driving under water? Breathing.
10-22-2021, 04:22 PM
#1098
Team Owner
i dont even know what it means by Submarine edition "Confirmed" I mean 007 had that shit decades ago...
https://phys.org/news/2007-12-squba-...water-car.html
10-23-2021, 12:38 AM
#1099
I want a car that not only goes underwater, or flies, but also goes to space. Ha ha.
10-23-2021, 12:40 AM
#1100
10-23-2021, 05:18 PM
#1101
Sanest Florida Man
Another AutoPilot crash! 
Get these fucking cars off the road! 
Humans will always be better than AI!
Get these fucking cars off the road! Humans will always be better than AI!
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10-23-2021, 10:50 PM
#1102
Three Wheelin'
$5K increase in price of Model S and Model X.
https://electrek.co/2021/10/23/tesla...odel-x-prices/
They also bumped up the prices of some Model 3 and Model Y trims by $2K.
https://electrek.co/2021/10/22/tesla...liveries-slip/
https://electrek.co/2021/10/23/tesla...odel-x-prices/
They also bumped up the prices of some Model 3 and Model Y trims by $2K.
https://electrek.co/2021/10/22/tesla...liveries-slip/
Last edited by anoop; 10-23-2021 at 10:55 PM.
10-24-2021, 02:29 AM
#1103
Sanest Florida Man
I love that they started giving detailed release notes for fsdbeta
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10-24-2021, 04:16 PM
#1104
At least it’ll give the legacy a sense of direction about where to start. 
10-25-2021, 12:13 PM
#1105
Sanest Florida Man
How long until another car company can pull this off? There have been hints in the code that they've been working on roaming profiles for months now
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10-25-2021, 01:01 PM
#1106
That’s awesome.
Also Panasonic announced that it is ready with its version of 4680 cells and provide it to Tesla.
The battery supply crunch of Tesla may be easing which is good news for EVs and disaster for legacy automakers.
https://insideevs.com/news/542991/pa...ell-prototype/
During a media roundtable, Panasonic unveiled today a prototype of its upcoming new, high-capacity cylindrical lithium-ion battery: the 4680-type (a diameter of 46 mm and height of 80 mm).
This is a new type of battery on which the company has been working, at least since Tesla officially announced the new form factor in September 2020.
With the 4680's improved specs and lower costs, Panasonic would like to enter a new phase of its automotive battery business and already hinted at a willingness to investment in the project
According to Reuters, Panasonic has not revealed the chemistry, or details on when and where it will enter series production for the 4680 battery cells.
Tesla also works on its battery tech in-house and recently said that is now "producing an increasing number of battery packs for testing purposes," which is a stage clearly beyond battery cell prototypes.
As far as we know, at least a few other manufacturers also work on the 4680-type, hoping to receive a volume order from Tesla. However, Panasonic's project might be the most advanced one.
Company's battery chief Kazuo Tadanobu said:
"We have developed this because of the strong desire of the other party, and we think this can only lead to stronger ties,"
Kazuo Tadanobu said:
"...Panasonic had no plans to make cheaper Lithium Iron Phosphate (LFP) batteries for more affordable EVs."
It's interesting because this market is significant. Tesla uses LFP - the company switched its entire lineup of standard range vehicles to LFP - and according to some reports, even Apple is searching for a LFP battery supplier.
Also Panasonic announced that it is ready with its version of 4680 cells and provide it to Tesla.
The battery supply crunch of Tesla may be easing which is good news for EVs and disaster for legacy automakers.
https://insideevs.com/news/542991/pa...ell-prototype/
During a media roundtable, Panasonic unveiled today a prototype of its upcoming new, high-capacity cylindrical lithium-ion battery: the 4680-type (a diameter of 46 mm and height of 80 mm).
This is a new type of battery on which the company has been working, at least since Tesla officially announced the new form factor in September 2020.
With the 4680's improved specs and lower costs, Panasonic would like to enter a new phase of its automotive battery business and already hinted at a willingness to investment in the project
According to Reuters, Panasonic has not revealed the chemistry, or details on when and where it will enter series production for the 4680 battery cells.
Tesla also works on its battery tech in-house and recently said that is now "producing an increasing number of battery packs for testing purposes," which is a stage clearly beyond battery cell prototypes.
As far as we know, at least a few other manufacturers also work on the 4680-type, hoping to receive a volume order from Tesla. However, Panasonic's project might be the most advanced one.
Company's battery chief Kazuo Tadanobu said:
"We have developed this because of the strong desire of the other party, and we think this can only lead to stronger ties,"
Panasonic says no to LFP
By the way of the presentation, Panasonic announced also that the company will not offer Lithium Iron Phosphate (LFP) EV batteries, often seen as an affordable alternative for entry-level, standard range EVs or energy storage systems.Kazuo Tadanobu said:
"...Panasonic had no plans to make cheaper Lithium Iron Phosphate (LFP) batteries for more affordable EVs."
It's interesting because this market is significant. Tesla uses LFP - the company switched its entire lineup of standard range vehicles to LFP - and according to some reports, even Apple is searching for a LFP battery supplier.
10-25-2021, 01:22 PM
#1107
Team Owner
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10-25-2021, 03:25 PM
#1108
My first Avatar....
His bullshit is unbounded.
10-25-2021, 09:42 PM
#1109
10-25-2021, 09:45 PM
#1110
10-25-2021, 10:01 PM
#1111
My first Avatar....
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10-25-2021, 10:17 PM
#1112
https://twitter.com/giscope/status/1452664297759326212?s=21
Last edited by Comfy; 10-25-2021 at 10:21 PM.
10-26-2021, 09:12 AM
#1113
Whats up with RDX owners?
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https://twitter.com/kristennetten/st...391670786?s=21
I love that they started giving detailed release notes for fsdbeta
I love that they started giving detailed release notes for fsdbeta
That's a rare show of humility to admit that Full Self Driving is a beta product and not free of bugs (beta version 10.3.1 has since rolled out).
*waits for Stunna to post another Twitter video of a Tesla swerving to avoid a car that was surely going to crash into it*
10-26-2021, 11:45 AM
#1114
My first Avatar....
you go elong.
10-26-2021, 10:36 PM
#1115
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10-26-2021, 11:47 PM
#1116
My first Avatar....
Laugh it up. The unemployment will be astronomical.
10-27-2021, 11:23 AM
#1117
Sanest Florida Man
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10-27-2021, 04:57 PM
#1118
Sanest Florida Man
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10-27-2021, 05:02 PM
#1119
Team Owner
"none of which costed any money"
Yah the monthly price hike is not $$.. it is only $$ if you have to pay for it individually...
Yah the monthly price hike is not $$.. it is only $$ if you have to pay for it individually...
10-27-2021, 06:07 PM
#1120
Those who already bought the car didn’t have to pay a dime to get those features. That what he is implying and everyone understands it. What are you talking about?