#1 STUNNA

#1 STUNNA

All I want to ask the Autopilot skeptics is: At what point does it stop getting better?

Comfy

But why should it matter? FSD is totally sh** software, right???

Comfy

https://cleantechnica.com/2021/12/04...of-the-market/

November’s combined plugin result of 34.4% comprised full battery electrics (BEVs) at 20.3% and plugin hybrids PHEVs at 14.1%. This continues the reweighting towards BEVs seen over the past 4 months, from more even weightings in H1 2021 and throughout 2020.

The cumulative plugin share for 2021 now stands at 25.1% from 12.0% at this point last year. The most recent trailing 3-months have seen combined plugin share of 31.2%, with BEVs alone at 18.2%.

Plugins have now sold 600,222 units year to date, up over 92% from 311,854 units year-on-year. The full year 2021 total should exceed 700,000.

Following the first time in September, BEVs share (20.3%) once again beat diesels, and will very likely stay ahead every month from now on. Petrol had the largest singe share at 33.3%, but at 66,020 units, was down close to half the sales from a year ago (117,220 units).

Legacy combustion powertrains (petrol and diesel without electric assist) fell below 50% for the first time in the modern era, at 49.1%. There’s a slim chance they may briefly see the sunny side of 50% in early 2021, but are on an inevitable falling trend overall.

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Anyone still with me on the >50% BEV adoption by 2025. It doesn’t look very far fetched to me right now at least in the developed / first world countries.

biker

Was it a slow news day? What does this have to do with Tesla development?

Comfy

Oops sorry. I thought I was posting in the Tesla sales thread. Mods please move to the right thread. Thanks

SSFTSX

Model X range collapse to less than 60 miles merely one hour in Russian winter. so much for electric vehicles range in cold weather.
you need real diesel engine vehicle.
https://www.arabnews24.ca/en/Business_news/177874.html

ArabNews24.ca Russia’s trade minister on his nerve-racking experience of driving a Tesla

#1 STUNNA

#1 STUNNA

Comfy

Of course what else would a minister of oil export nation talk to Arab news. Birds of same feather flock together. .

Comfy

I don’t know but why can’t Tesla move those side cameras a little more towards the front corner of car. Wouldn’t that give the car and it’s software a significant advantage versus creeping forward in such situations?

Comfy

SSFTSX

more delay
https://www.teslarati.com/tesla-giga...22-production/

SSFTSX

in Norway tests were at 28 f. that is still 30 degree warmer than Russian cold winter.
and still every one from Tesla loses 25% of Range. this is not even winter weather for Russia. if you are driving from China to Europe through cold winter at speed higher than 70mph. the range will be reduced to 25%. it is total waste of time.
Renault zoe got excellent numbers.

Comfy

So all teslas got above 400km. The highest in the list you provided. What are you complaining about.
ICE may have a favorable case in extreme winter conditions. We are not talking about edge cases.

oonowindoo

edge cases? if you lived in Norway, they will not be edge cases.

Do you know where Norway is?

#1 STUNNA

That test doesn’t include a Tesla that has a heat pump which is 3-5x more efficient than what was tested. The Model Y launched with it in America in March 2020, the Tesla model 3 got the heat pump in late 2020 in the model S and model X a little after

Thats probably why more people in Norway are choosing a Tesla instead of a Zoe

Comfy

That’s why Tesla is killing it in Norway. LOL.
You said it, not me.

….. talk about putting your foot in your mouth. Nevermind. It happens sometimes.

SSFTSX

Norway is special case due to income and incentives level there which they enjoy due to fossils fuel wealth invested in stock.







https://teslamotorsclub.com/tmc/thre...at-35f.247666/

SamDoe1

For the heater, yes. That doesn't translate into overall 3-5x more efficient for the whole car though. The range in the cold sucks donkey balls and I have a car with a heat pump. It's even worse because if it's super cold like it is here (it was 2F outside today) you can't use regen at all until the battery warms up (takes ~5-10mins) and even then it's heavily limited until you've been driving for like 30-40 minutes which is when you get full regen. You'd know this if you had one but here we are.

#1 STUNNA

that’s so obvious that it didn’t even need to be said

#1 STUNNA

If the Model Y cold weather range sucks donkey balls you should sell it and buy an EV that has more cold weather range…

let me know when you find an EV that has more cold weather range than a Tesla

SSFTSX

isnt it waste of time to park like this and wait.
I can drive car in any direction to the gas pump

SamDoe1

There isn't one with more cold weather range, that's why I have what I have but that doesn't mean it doesn't suck donkey balls though. How much cold weather range does your Tesla get?

Know what has more cold weather range than the Tesla though? Any gas car.

SamDoe1

No, it's not a waste of time. I use this time to get something to eat and go to the bathroom. By the time I'm done with that the car is ready to go.

Legend2TL

Ruh roh, SSFTSX jumped into the Tesla thread

oonowindoo

I was talking about ICE is more favorable in extreme temps. Killing it? Are they selling more Tesla than ICE cars there? If not, STFU.
I know it happens sometimes. Except in your case, it happens every time

AZuser

Tesla's doing really well, but killing it?

For all of 2020, Audi e-tron was best selling EV

https://www.electrive.com/2021/01/05...s-in-december/


For 2021 year to date, Tesla's doing better with Model 3 with VW and Ford in 2nd and 3rd, respectively.

https://insideevs.com/news/537973/no...september2021/

Tesla Model 3 - 2,218 (9,266 YTD)
Tesla Model Y - 3,564 (4,873 YTD)
TOTAL: 14,139 YTD


Volkswagen ID.4 - 659 (6,289 YTD)
Audi e-tron - 672 (4,789 YTD)
Volkswagen ID.3 - 456 (2,436 YTD)
TOTAL: 13,514

SSFTSX

so you are going to leave the car un attended for 30 minutes. have you not heared smash and grab.
infact i haver read some people not comfortable parking electric cars and charging indoor now.

oonowindoo

Dont get too analytical with him... he will accuse you of manipulating data and historical data means nothing.

The only difference between him and SSFTSX is SSFTSX would put in the extra effort to post useless pictures.

oonowindoo

The car is locked, and you can't steal anything from the charging port.
You and Comfy should rent an EV together and actually live with 1 for a few days, so you guys can stop talking out of your asses.


any car's window can get smashed. If you dont wanna get your window smashed, then dont give them a reason to.
Dont leave bags or other things in the car visible.

Get some tintz.

SSFTSX

It does not matter whether anything on site. Tesla has now some of highest insurance rates now.
A new RDX or Passport insurance rate is now less than half of similar price Tesla.

SamDoe1

Do you not leave your car anywhere when you go places? These chargers are in normal parking lots, not any different than parking at your local Target...because that's actually where the charger is lol. The car is locked when you walk away even while charging and the charge port itself is also locked.

Why is an electric car any different for parking inside?

My insurance went down from my Golf to my Tesla. Not by much but it went down.

AZuser

Go places? With the increase in attacks on in and around NorCal, SSFTSX, who's , doesn't go anywhere.

That's also why he drives a 10+ year old Acura TSX. A newer car attracts too much unwanted attention (and higher insurance costs).

oonowindoo

Wait wait wait.....

You gotta be kidding me... is this confirmed? Who has seen him in person? or her... or it...

SSFTSX

Unless there paid parking fully protected. i take uber. why do you think that glass repair shop repaird 50,000 EVs and most are Tesla. and this just one.
It is not just expenses but slow turn around for repairs.
no one want to take risk parking these inside let alone allowing them to charge. now electric rates are progressive. it does not matter what time you charge. beyond certain limit price goes up. working from home means more units used.
Gasoline has no problem. you put 20 gallon or 100 gallon. the price is same and credit card give you percentage discount.

oonowindoo

Are you ??

Comfy

I think that is too much information. Whether it’s true or false, we should avoid going that route. We don’t want SSFTSX to change his narrative on this website just because someone disclosed the identity. SSFTSX is fun as it is and an integral part of Acurazine. Please don’t try to spoil the fun.

SamDoe1

roflwaffles, you take uber so no one smashes your old ass TSX? Are you worried it would be totalled if someone broke a window?

Of course most of the repaired EVs are Teslas, that's because most EV's are Teslas.

Everyone parks and charges their car inside. And no, electric rates are not progressive. It's the same no matter what you use. Only changes are for time of day plans.

biker

One of the problems with him is that he so conflates issues it's tough to digest what he's talking about - I think he meant at a charging station, where there are some tiered and timed charges.