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Old 06-07-2007, 02:37 PM
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With more development, maybe this could be a great turbo/blower suppliment that rewards its owner with terrific performance while returning very good fuel economy.
fixed. the issue with having both an IC and electric drivetrain is the weight which practically kills all the advantages
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Originally Posted by Python2121
fixed. the issue with having both an IC and electric drivetrain is the weight which practically kills all the advantages
Hence the 'more development' and 'maybe' parts:

Originally Posted by F23A4
With more development, maybe this could be a great turbo/blower alternative that rewards its owner with terrific performance while returning very good fuel economy
Old 06-08-2007, 12:02 AM
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52MPG!!! and with their new diesel emission system

Bluetec who?? damn, i wanna diesel 2nd gen TSX!
Old 06-08-2007, 07:20 AM
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Originally Posted by mg7726
damn, i wanna diesel 2nd gen TSX!
Soon enough - Acura will milk the redesign next year and like the Accord will intro the diesel in the 2nd MY.

Hybrids will become a niche item and diesels will be the main stream when it comes to increased fuel efficiency.
Old 06-08-2007, 03:17 PM
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The latest number for Accord diesel is 62mpg.
Old 06-08-2007, 08:52 PM
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Originally Posted by CLpower
I'll disagree Rumors will pop up about how they are dangerous, etc ( we already know they are expensive)...but these things have been in development a long time. The downsides are known.


BTW, hondas mistake was the high sticker price

i think part of the gimmick is that it will eventually save you money over a conventional car...
Old 06-08-2007, 10:38 PM
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Soon enough - Acura will milk the redesign next year and like the Accord will intro the diesel in the 2nd MY.

Hybrids will become a niche item and diesels will be the main stream when it comes to increased fuel efficiency.
Si'.....fuel efficiency and torque coming but an Acura coupe next spring to hold some over tell such..
Old 06-10-2007, 05:23 PM
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I did my pH.D on hybrids and fuel cells and all I can say is I have been converted to diesels. There is too much academic bias for hybrids and fuel cells because that is where the research money is. UCI is doing it for Toyota, we have them over once a month basically.
Old 06-12-2007, 08:22 AM
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Any one know when the news embargo is to lift on the 08 Honda Accord? I saw it some where in a thread but cannot find it now…may have been on TOV?
Old 06-13-2007, 10:54 AM
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New interior pic.

http://www.vtec.net/news/news-item?news_item_id=686560

Old 06-13-2007, 12:33 PM
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Hm well according to that pic I guess it wont be a touch screen unless since I doubt they would put a touch screen that far back. Maybe the same controls used in the RL, MDX, and RDX?
Old 06-13-2007, 02:59 PM
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An LCD screen standard for a 20K Accord? That would be a huge thing in this segment. I think the lowest level car that has that now is the new G35. Electronics/LCD must be cheaper than putting a bunch of buttons in the center stack - although that one has plenty.

Probably many other models will inherit this. I thought they'd go the MID route a la TSX.

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Old 06-13-2007, 04:47 PM
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At this stage, I don't care for that interior.
Old 06-13-2007, 06:15 PM
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Nice interior! If this 8th Accord sedan and coupe are really great looking along with the nice interior, what's the point of the Acura division then anymore? I think this may hurt the Acura division in sales.

Well, I've never seen the interior of the Lexus ES350, but it has to be a lot more upscale looking than the Camry.
Old 06-13-2007, 06:19 PM
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Boo to the Civic steering wheel making it into the Accord.

And a post from TOV says the EX 4-banger will be making 200hp.
Old 06-13-2007, 06:31 PM
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Originally Posted by phile
Boo to the Civic steering wheel making it into the Accord.

And a post from TOV says the EX 4-banger will be making 200hp.
Wow, that does suck, if Honda wanted to save money they should've just put the TSX motor in the next Accord.

I think that post in TOV could be a joke. Why will the EX 4-banger will only make 19 mpg city?? That's horrible, some V6's get better city mpg than that.
Old 06-13-2007, 07:27 PM
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Originally Posted by 04EuroAccordTsx
Wow, that does suck, if Honda wanted to save money they should've just put the TSX motor in the next Accord.
The TSX has a 200hp I-4 engine right?
Old 06-13-2007, 07:53 PM
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I-4 with 205 hp (SAE)
Old 06-14-2007, 10:13 AM
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Originally Posted by phile
Boo to the Civic steering wheel making it into the Accord.

And a post from TOV says the EX 4-banger will be making 200hp.
You're right about that wheel - not the best looking thing but that's how costs are kept low in this class - share with all the other models.

Going by history, I'd say no way any of the engines in the different trims make different HP.

Millage will be an issue since the MY08 numbers will be lower - but at least they'll be more realistic than in the past.
Old 06-14-2007, 10:33 AM
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i like the interior. very bmwish.
Old 06-14-2007, 11:14 AM
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Originally Posted by Infamous425
i like the interior. very bmwish.

Hyundai copies Honda and honda goes out and copies BMW, its a vicious cycle i tell ya..
Old 06-14-2007, 12:24 PM
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what BMW? It's heavily influenced by MDX. The photos on the Acura website are run by adobe flash and I can't figure out how to link, but there's one shot from the exact same angle as the accord spy photo.

Here's one from Edmunds:


BMW is very different. 5 series:


The current Accord interior still looks nice.
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Is that a regular key I see there? You mean no keyless start? I thought that's all the rage.

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Old 06-14-2007, 02:06 PM
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Originally Posted by TMQ

The current Accord interior still looks nice.
That's my ride!!
Old 06-14-2007, 02:45 PM
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Not diggin the steering wheel but other than that its a nice interior
Old 06-15-2007, 03:50 PM
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Sux that the new Accord won't have a push button start.
Ditch the keys Honda!!!
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Sux that the new Accord won't have a push button start.
Ditch the keys Honda!!!

the new MDX doesnt even have it i doubt they'd put it in a honda before an acura
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Originally Posted by Infamous425
the new MDX doesnt even have it i doubt they'd put it in a honda before an acura
Does the S2000 count as push button start and putting it in a honda before an acura?
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Originally Posted by Infamous425
the new MDX doesnt even have it i doubt they'd put it in a honda before an acura
...and yet a sentra has a "keyless" starter. Altima has push-button start.

Honda needs to step it up!
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Originally Posted by 04EuroAccordTsx
Does the S2000 count as push button start and putting it in a honda before an acura?

nah, u still need to use the key
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Originally Posted by Moog-Type-S
...and yet a sentra has a "keyless" starter. Altima has push-button start.

Honda needs to step it up!

even the cheapest nissan, the Versa, has an option for it
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The Nissan line having a keyless start must be a Renault thing - just about every Renault has it.

Maybe Honda did a market study and thinks its customers don't want it.
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proof that either Honda is stubborn or they want to save costs.
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Originally Posted by biker
The Nissan line having a keyless start must be a Renault thing - just about every Renault has it.

Maybe Honda did a market study and thinks its customers don't want it.
Most of the upmarket vehicles have it...Lexus, Infiniti, BMW.....etc...
Now Nissan & Toyota have it.
The public likes it...especially women.

Honda is just being its usual "odd" self.
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.......just another thing to break...and do you know the price of a lexus key fob????$$$$$$$$$
Old 06-16-2007, 07:22 PM
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I actually couldn't care less about having a keyless start. Wasn't there just a thread around where Nissan owners couldn't start their cars because the "keys" were disabled or something? I think I'd rather just have a regular key....
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Originally Posted by LuvMyTSX
I actually couldn't care less about having a keyless start. Wasn't there just a thread around where Nissan owners couldn't start their cars because the "keys" were disabled or something? I think I'd rather just have a regular key....
I agree, I see where some may like such but has it is nothing to do with being a sports car with good handling etc….seems to be a techie thing to me....

.....instead wish they would spend more time on more torque/hp, better rebound control, six speed a/t or smoother manual trans, better wheels etc….of course I am a dinosaur as I think the nav is superfluous
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The keyless thing is a gimmick ... and everyone likes a gimmick. But will it make or break the deal? I think that for a $20k car, a keyless start won't be the deciding factor ... but not having curtain airbags not being an option, good fuel economy (ie >30 mpg highway) or quiet interior would.

But I do think that Honda needs to keep up with the Joneses (eventually) with things like keyless start ... starting with the entire Acura line so it can trickle down to the Honda line.

Edit: Holy crap! A EX-L V6 Accord costs $27k! That's as much as a TSX! I guess that's if you want a 6-cyl vs 4-cyl ... I was a little surprised by that.
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Originally Posted by derrick
The keyless thing is a gimmick ... and everyone likes a gimmick. But will it make or break the deal? I think that for a $20k car, a keyless start won't be the deciding factor ... but not having curtain airbags not being an option, good fuel economy (ie >30 mpg highway) or quiet interior would.

But I do think that Honda needs to keep up with the Joneses (eventually) with things like keyless start ... starting with the entire Acura line so it can trickle down to the Honda line.

Edit: Holy crap! A EX-L V6 Accord costs $27k! That's as much as a TSX! I guess that's if you want a 6-cyl vs 4-cyl ... I was a little surprised by that.
You can call it a gimmick, but keyless/pushbutton start is the future.
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