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Accord Concept Rims and Bodykit
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2004 Acura TL A-Spec Bodykit and Rims
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Honda: Accord News
#1121
Originally Posted by TSX69
Glad to see the VCM used again but still not sure why it was not included on the RDX, MDX or even the CR-V.
#1122
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But does the Civic (hybrid) not use it? If not, they really should add it to 4 cylinder engines bc every mpg on that sticker counts nowadayz especially w/ Toyota's new line of engines.
Oh yeah, they should slap that in the RL as well ... cannot hurt @ this point.
Oh yeah, they should slap that in the RL as well ... cannot hurt @ this point.
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Originally Posted by phile
The VCM is only used in V6 applications - so that rules out the RDX or the CR-V. The MDX, though, I don't know why it's not used there. My guess would be because it needs all the ponies it can grab hold of, but then that really doesn't explain why it's used in the Odyssey which is also a porker in its own right.
I think the MDX does not have it because it is a relatively new size (3.7l) and may ahve introduced some lack-of-refinement when switching from 6cyl to 3cyl operation that has already been worked out for the 3.5l engine. We may see it later on maybe at the MMY refresh.
#1125
The sizzle in the Steak
Originally Posted by phile
The VCM is only used in V6 applications - so that rules out the RDX or the CR-V. The MDX, though, I don't know why it's not used there. My guess would be because it needs all the ponies it can grab hold of, but then that really doesn't explain why it's used in the Odyssey which is also a porker in its own right.
#1133
Originally Posted by biker
So, what about the sedan?
#1135
Drifting
I think this is BEAUTIFUL! It has a much more European look, which is great! Now, can you imagine how gorgeous the sedan is going to be? I can't wait!
Thank goodness the Accord is looking this great, considering how disappointing the Advanced Sports Concept was...
Thank goodness the Accord is looking this great, considering how disappointing the Advanced Sports Concept was...
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car looks much better than the current gen...
it's nice...until you see the car from the side profile. The front end is too flat and raked high and just doesnt flow with the rest of the body and there's too much glass running along the rear sides. From other angles though, it looks good.
it's nice...until you see the car from the side profile. The front end is too flat and raked high and just doesnt flow with the rest of the body and there's too much glass running along the rear sides. From other angles though, it looks good.
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Originally Posted by TSX69
But does the Civic (hybrid) not use it? If not, they really should add it to 4 cylinder engines bc every mpg on that sticker counts nowadayz especially w/ Toyota's new line of engines.
Oh yeah, they should slap that in the RL as well ... cannot hurt @ this point.
Oh yeah, they should slap that in the RL as well ... cannot hurt @ this point.
#1141
Don't Mess With Texas
#1143
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Originally Posted by AcuraFan
My understanding is VCM deactivates one bank of cylinders. And I4 engines only have one bank to begin with so it wouldn't work. Unless I'm wrong?
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Interestingly, although the Civic can’t move away from a stop using only the electric motor, Honda says there is one situation where its hybrid can run on just electricity—at about 15 to 20 mph when cruising on a flat surface at a steady speed with a fully charged, or nearly so, battery pack. Since the electric motor and the gas engine rotate inseparably, the Civic must cut off fuel to the engine and use its variable-valve-timing system to close the engine’s valves and make it easier for the electric motor to do its job.
Interestingly, although the Civic can’t move away from a stop using only the electric motor, Honda says there is one situation where its hybrid can run on just electricity—at about 15 to 20 mph when cruising on a flat surface at a steady speed with a fully charged, or nearly so, battery pack. Since the electric motor and the gas engine rotate inseparably, the Civic must cut off fuel to the engine and use its variable-valve-timing system to close the engine’s valves and make it easier for the electric motor to do its job.
Oh & the Accord ain't so cute from the side ... roofline?
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#1144
I feel the need...
Originally Posted by TSX69
Oh & the Accord ain't so cute from the side ... roofline?
IMO it doesn't need to look cute. The more I see, the more I likeee!
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It will be interesting to see the final production version.
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But why can't Honda call it the new Prelude?
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Accord conjures up a too pedestrian image.
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#1145
Do not be too hard on the design. Wait tell you see the new TSX & TL…
I suspect the high hood and grill are the result of Europe’s pedestrian (j-walk) law that autos must be friendly to said pedestrian by having so much clearance between engine and hood…crush zone….may come to USA.....also front end to handle impact with other bumpers of different height...
It will sell with a V-6, regular gas, more HP, better MPG...nice looks...lets hope handling and trans options are improved...
I suspect the high hood and grill are the result of Europe’s pedestrian (j-walk) law that autos must be friendly to said pedestrian by having so much clearance between engine and hood…crush zone….may come to USA.....also front end to handle impact with other bumpers of different height...
It will sell with a V-6, regular gas, more HP, better MPG...nice looks...lets hope handling and trans options are improved...
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Originally Posted by runnerX
Audi TT wannabe?
I agree. That's all I see. It looks almost like a clone of the Audi Shooting Brake. I like it a LOT better than what's out now though.
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#1148
Fahrvergnügen'd
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The Accord makes the Altima seem dated already ... Though in a year the Accord's design could be the one that's dated. Taking a risk with designs is something you have to face I guess as a manufacturer.
Both are attractive cars whose profile is NOT their best angle. I would lean towards the Accord simply because Honda's options are usually packaged much better.
#1149
Race Director
Originally Posted by Texas
I suspect the high hood and grill are the result of Europe’s pedestrian (j-walk) law that autos must be friendly to said pedestrian by having so much clearance between engine and hood…crush zone…....
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#1150
I think it's a difficult choice. The Altima does look cleaner. The Accord has more detailing, so that might actually turn some people away. And from that side profile, it has quite a nose.
#1152
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Originally Posted by charliemike
The Accord makes the Altima seem dated already ... Though in a year the Accord's design could be the one that's dated. Taking a risk with designs is something you have to face I guess as a manufacturer.
Both are attractive cars whose profile is NOT their best angle. I would lean towards the Accord simply because Honda's options are usually packaged much better.
Yea but you comparing concept to production model.
Im sure the accord will be toned down soon.
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#1153
Fahrvergnügen'd
Originally Posted by Crazy Sellout
Yea but you comparing concept to production model.
Im sure the accord will be toned down soon.![ugh](https://acurazine.com/forums/images/smilies/ugh.gif)
Im sure the accord will be toned down soon.
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#1154
Drifting
This Accord Coupe Concept looks pretty production ready already. Does anyone really, honestly think that it looks outrageous in anyway that needs to be toned down for production?
#1155
Originally Posted by biker
That would make a lot of sense if Honda plans to export the USDM Accord coupe. ![Too Cool](https://acurazine.com/forums/images/smilies/toocool.gif)
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#1156
Race Director
Originally Posted by ostrich
This Accord Coupe Concept looks pretty production ready already. Does anyone really, honestly think that it looks outrageous in anyway that needs to be toned down for production?
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#1157
Race Director
Originally Posted by Texas
I hear what you are saying but like stuff in Cal ends up in Tx, the people friendly hood/engine crush zone law in Europe may be headed this way???
#1158
Originally Posted by biker
No, and in past shows the same car could have been called "pre-production" to signify that it's pretty close to prime time. ![2 Cents](https://acurazine.com/forums/images/smilies/2cents.gif)
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"For the 2008 model year, Accord enters its 32nd year and 8th generation. And before I continue I should tell you that the styling concept you see here is an accurate representation of what the next generation Accord coupe will look like. "
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