Ken1997TL

Sounds like Honda isn't serious about making an actual luxury cruiser. Time to shove an LSx motor in my RL and make it RWD.

ghttf

ok...I was just saying that the interior in the picture has real wood. Never made any Bentley comparisons lol

fsttyms1

It would make the RL something that might be desirable.

neuronbob

^^^^
I'd hit it. But it will never happen.

csmeance

Not quite the case! All cars you see use Wood Veeners for the exact reason Ken stated, it shattering! On a thin plastic sheet, they put on layers of wood trim and then they stain them and lacquer them! Very few area's on cars have real wood that's FULLY wood. For example the drawers on my car are full wood, and so are the smaller wood pieces. On Bently's, real wood is limited to around the gauge cluster, otherwise everything else is wood-veneers.

ghttf

I understand, my point was that there is a layer of real wood and not plastic as said on the previous page. If the dash used solid wood it would be dangerous.

MyCarIsntInMyWifesName

Actually a flagship Bentley, which would be the Mulsanne right now, uses a big piece of wood for the door cappings or things like that as well, not veneers.

Speed_Racer

Saw this posted on the Acura twitter page. Subtle changes to the grill.

Speed_Racer

from temple of vtec

Moog-Type-S

What am I missing here

Speed_Racer

Grill is different. New rims?

MyCarIsntInMyWifesName

I spy a new grille and the 2011 Legend's wheels. I admit I like the overall package more than the AWD TL for the interior and ride, but not about $10,000 more.

Is it also true that this will be rated at 309 hp or something like I saw here on AZ somewhere a while ago?

EDIT: I was also just thinking. The quickest 0-60 time I've seen for the 2G RL update is 6.5 seconds, a full half second off of what the AWD TL does. The TL weighs about 100 pounds less and is rated for 5 hp less, but a half second? Is the gearing or something different? This car really ought to be around 6.0 seconds.

fsttyms1

they just cant get that grille right

SSFTSX

superme refinement/quietness/comfort, best handling on all season tires,
best fit/finish/built quality (just ask Edmunds).
I would say that overall package is very convincing even at $50K.
this car wont be slower than 535 with 6speed auto. and will have no problem bald tires and leaky suspension.
just the intanglibles make it $10k more expensive than TL.
I doubt TL-SH-AWD will reach RL comfort/quietness/interior environment. It is the same difference as between 3 series and 5 series.

phile

this car just doesn't work. the RL originally designed as a sleek looking car, swept back headlights, wedge shaped silhouette.

now they flattened the hood, gave it the angular grille treatment, angular headlights, meanwhile keeping the cabin completely intact, and revamped the rear with some rice looking lights.

MyCarIsntInMyWifesName

You right. One more gear in the transmission will easily subtract second off of 0-60 time, what it needs to be fast as 535i.

RL was already best finished, roomiest, most aerodynamic car with superiorest ground clearance and most elegance so nice wheels not necessary. Now it's also BMW fast.

biker

Woot, it'll sell at 200/mo with this refresh.

pttl

100% correct. Yet the RL is still far better looking than the TL.

@ Speed_Racer's avy.

Belzebutt

It's still ugly.

I think they're going to have to scrap the entire front design language and start over.

dom

Comedy gold.

pttl

It really is. Especially when you consider he has probably never been in an RL let alone ridden in or driven one.

Everything is supositions and reading magazines or net articles.

I just love the language. "supreme"...this and that. "bald tires"...."leaky suspension"....

Gold Jerry! Gold!

smarty666

I'm just hoping he is on some sort of prescription medication that is affecting his thinking and to explain why he talks like that. If not, then God help you if you ever encountered him in person.

MyCarIsntInMyWifesName

If they had gone with "high performance hybrid" engine in the 2009 RL they might've differentiated the RL from the TL to spur a bit of sales. Think of them doing something like the hybrid Accord for an engine. They could even keep the more efficient and smaller 3.5 V6. Lexus pulled 340 hp from a 3.5 hybrid drivetrain for 2007, so why Acura couldn't get 340-350 a couple of years later would be beyond me. At that point the 6spd should've been rolled out. And a 350 hp RL getting 20/27 or better might have a real selling point in the class, not just at the Acura stealership. It would have better mileage than standard V6 cars in its class and better power. At Acura, the problem with the RL has been that you get almost everything the RL has in the TL. For 2005-2008, all you really got with the RL was a better ride and AWD, not enough for a $10,000+ premium. Now that it doesn't even have the latter advantage, beating out a TL on ride, efficiency, and performance might help it sell . . . . 500 a month? LOL

But I guess with a car having consistently been a slow seller, no one would want to invest that much in the car.

iforyou

iTrader: (1)

C/D got 6.3s in the 290hp 2005 or 2006 RL. With about 20 more hp now, I'd imagine it should be a bit quicker.

Crazy Bimmer

Sweet, not much of a change. My dad is planning to buy a leftover in a month or so.

Will be his 4th RL

Belzebutt

But the increased ugly should be slowing it down.

dom

He better get there before they're all gone!

Yumcha

It's a baking pan.

Moog-Type-S

Somebody tell Acura they are going to have a 50% increase in RL sales come January!!!!!!!!!!!

Crazy Bimmer

Did Acura stop production on the RL for a bit? Theres actually not too many on dealers lots currently.

dom

Did you guys see that thread in the RL section. Canada sold 33, yes 33 in all of Canada in 2010.

Ken1997TL

Yuck

They still can't get it right.

Oh well, time to do a RWD conversion on my RL and toss in a J37.

Colin

Oh yeah, they ran a very short run of cars early in the year. Our three RLs are all >290 days old.

Crazy Bimmer

Sweet, cant wait to hear a salesman tell me the RL was a limited edition this year.

Hes aiming to get one for $41k with tech if possible.

Colin

Well, it is limited....

pttl

Why wouldn't he be able to get this? He could probably do better actually. I'd think the dealers would do almost anything to get them off of their inventory, especially with the end of the year quickly approaching.

Maybe if he plays his cards right he could actually get THEM to pay HIM to take the car off their lot.

Crazy Bimmer

I havent seen anyone in the RL section get lower than 42k on their RL with Tech, but then again not many been buying them to post.

Non-tech been going for $38k it seems.

Shift_Acura

Why does he want to punish himself?

Crazy Bimmer

Name a car for $40k new that has everything the RL has?

Reliable
Build quality (made in japan)
Quiet cabin
Comfy ride (hes 65)
AWD
Navi
Rear view camera

Biggest thing is the quality materials, even sitting in the RL over the TL you can see/feel where they cut costs to make the TL cheaper.

MyCarIsntInMyWifesName

I would certainly take an RL for a minimal premium over a comparably equipped TL AWD. The RL has a much nicer ride and still has great handling, but more importantly its features and interior quality and design are so much better. Most seem to prefer its styling to the TL also, although I like the TL well enough.