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6MT is fantastic, car drives like an Si but less frantic and more comfortable. Audio system good, materials good, backseat space good, handling good. CVT is good for a CVT (still lousy but is not a dealbreaker for regular folks). Sounds like it's what most people expected it to be based on what it looked like on paper.
I think the most interesting thing is that the CVT is gutless down low to the point where you can have the front wheels turned from a stop and it still can't get the tires to slip. Honda/Acura made it sound like the CVT wouldn't detract from the car, but based on the initial impressions it sure sounds like it's still a letdown even if it's good by CVT standards.
I'll add that Sarah mentioned several times that several aspects of the car looked better in person than in pictures. Interior quality seems better in person (and her close ups helped), and some of the exterior parts. That mattered to me because so far, the photos have been somewhat uninspiring. So it was nice to get that in-person take.
Reviews are fairly positive, designers and engineers at Honda/Acura did a very good overall design which should sell well.
The 6MT should be made available on lower tier trim packages, and Acura should and probably will create a Type-S version.
I'm guessing they plop the TLX turbo 4 into the Integra Type S and call it a day. They may tune it to Accord Sport level but will ultimately come down to final weight.
There's no way the chassis is big enough to handle the twin-scroll 6 in the TLX Type S...
Comments section pretty much sums it up. (another over hyped product)
Only time would tell if it's a success.
However, since it's "unofficially" taking the spot of the ILX (which sells well because it's cheap.. cheapest Acura) those with the ILX or ILX style buyers who really want an Acura but don't have type-s money will buy the Integra.
The market is shifting quickly to EV which Acura is still way behind the ball, so that will hurt sales. 2nd part, the greedy dealerships will mark these up just because of the name "INTEGRA". False hope of buying some iconic without iconic roots.
Enthusiasts will scoop up the 6MT, that's for sure.
Comments section pretty much sums it up. (another over hyped product)
Only time would tell if it's a success.
However, since it's "unofficially" taking the spot of the ILX (which sells well because it's cheap.. cheapest Acura) those with the ILX or ILX style buyers who really want an Acura but don't have type-s money will buy the Integra.
The market is shifting quickly to EV which Acura is still way behind the ball, so that will hurt sales. 2nd part, the greedy dealerships will mark these up just because of the name "INTEGRA". False hope of buying some iconic without iconic roots.
Enthusiasts will scoop up the 6MT, that's for sure.
Yeah, it depends on Acura's strategy though. Their hybrid tech was wonderful in the NSX...so, if they go with that, they'll get interested buyers. I know I'm not 100% sold on EV at THIS point and hybrids would be very much in play.
Yah but it also offers a lot more that a 37k integra doesn't. I just dont understand how Acura could price a 200hp Integra the same as the current Gen CTR.
Powertrain aside, the exhaust note, Brembo brakes, summer tires among other things.
I personally would take those over sunroof. Actually sunroof is so useless to me that i would take the 100 lbs weight saving over it
yah but in this case, i would be gladly drive a 33k Hyundai over a 37k Integra in the 626...
and this is some living in the 626 with a white BMW.. the definition of typical
The shallow snob in me says, no fanku to K-cars...I'm in the Integra.
Originally Posted by Yumcha
Then again, the only demographic I see in Hyundais and Kias are...well, not ...that's foh shoh.
FWIW, my son just got a 2022 Kia K5 GT. It's a NICE looking car, good looking interior, very sporty looking, and up close it appears to be a terrific value at ~$30k. Its not going to thrill the enthusiasts from a raw HP perspective, but it handles very well. Kia/Hyundai have their act together. This coming from someone who's wife owned a 1987 Hyundai Excel which by any measure might be one of the worst cars ever made.
Coworker just traded in her 140k miles 2014 Optima SXL for a new Sorento EX (I think).
Personally, wouldn't have a problem with a Kia/Hyundai. But the dealer she got hers form has a $4k markup on every car on the lot
The more important question is are you . cuz that is what Yumcha was referring to.
Cuz nice looking as K5 is, i would still take the Accord over it.
But their N cars are a performance/fun bargain cars that i would absolutely take over any Japanese or EU brands at that price point ($33K-35k). Except for the Corolla since ordered one
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The more important question is are you . cuz that is what Yumcha was referring to.
Cuz nice looking as K5 is, i would still take the Accord over it.
But their N cars are a performance/fun bargain cars that i would absolutely take over any Japanese or EU brands at that price point ($33K-35k). Except for the Corolla since ordered one
That's what the TSX did. 20 years later and that's still where they're at? /
To be fair, that TSX (w/NAV) which in say 2006 had an MSRP of $31K, would be over $44K today adjusted for inflation. So while performance hasn't gotten better (and mileage only marginally better), the value is there.
Biker, who thinks the Integra would make a worthy TSX replacement.
To be fair, that TSX (w/NAV) which in say 2006 had an MSRP of $31K, would be over $44K today adjusted for inflation. So while performance hasn't gotten better (and mileage only marginally better), the value is there.
Biker, who thinks the Integra would make a worthy TSX replacement.
How was the Hyundai Elantra 20 years ago? Two decades is a long time for things to improve and it's pretty terrible when things haven't improved. Pretty much every car in every segment is better, faster, and more efficient than they were 20 years ago...except for this one?
How was the Hyundai Elantra 20 years ago? Two decades is a long time for things to improve and it's pretty terrible when things haven't improved. Pretty much every car in every segment is better, faster, and more efficient than they were 20 years ago...except for this one?
Well the J3X series engine is still in Honda/Acura's line up right now... so ..... if you had a kid when Honda/Acura introduced the J series, you would be a grandpa by now
Edit: I kinda shocked myself right now after reading what i just wrote.. fuck i am getting old.
. . . . . and to top it all off, it looks almost exactly (to me) like a Civic.
To be fair, i think it looks better than a Civic... but then when i realized it is 10k more for essentially the same shit other than the hatch, it quickly lost all of its appeals.
I was at an Honda Acura Classic show at an Acura dealership over the past weekend. They had on display a white A-spec (automatic) Integra. I believe without a markup, it was 35 or 37K (can't remember the exact number). I walked around and sat in it. They asked me if I wanted to go for a test drive, I declined. I didn't feel impressed with it at all. A lot of the interior seemed awfully cheap, like a serious step in the wrong direction. The over hype as they claim this is a high performance vehicle.. but where?!.. The "Real" integras were parked up near the display booth as were the S2000's and any NSX's. Those iconic vehicles really stole the show. Even had an NSX-S on display that didn't draw in the amount of attention it should have. I spoke to a wonderful gentleman who purchased from Honda America a 2008 TL-S 6MT which currently has 2000 miles. He also owns a 91 NSX. He said "Out of all my vehicles, this is my favorite" (TL-S). I sat inside my TL and it felt way more upscale than the Integra, minus the dated technology. Sometimes, even with all the newer technology, they can still be bland, dull, boring vehicles to drive. Here are some photos including of my TL
^ You would think they would at least make the interior look like the RDX or the TLX since it is a Acura. Nope, they carbon copy the interior from the Civic to make sure everyone knows it is a Civic...
^ You would think they would at least make the interior look like the RDX or the TLX since it is a Acura. Nope, they carbon copy the interior from the Civic to make sure everyone knows it is a Civic...
Acura is too focused on their marketing bs instead of actually making a solid product that does what they claim. In their prime years, the difference between models were obvious. As @Acura TL Builder pointed out in his thread: https://acurazine.com/forums/third-g...lineup-999375/
"The body lines, window designs, headlights, taillights, body contours. all the same."
Acurazine isn't exclusive to Acura owners ONLY (felt exclusive back in the days). There are Facebook community standard like hall monitors here which would label us as "Haters" for having an opinion about Acura or anything Acura related.
Acura is too focused on their marketing bs instead of actually making a solid product that does what they claim. In their prime years, the difference between models were obvious. As @Acura TL Builder pointed out in his thread: https://acurazine.com/forums/third-g...lineup-999375/
"The body lines, window designs, headlights, taillights, body contours. all the same."
Acurazine isn't exclusive to Acura owners ONLY (felt exclusive back in the days). There are Facebook community standard like hall monitors here which would label us as "Haters" for having an opinion about Acura or anything Acura related.