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Old 12-05-2022, 02:58 PM
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"We built it & you didn't buy it"
"We didn't buy it because it's a fast $50k Civic"
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"We built it & you didn't buy it"
"We didn't buy it because it's a fast $50k Civic"
There are dozens of us!
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Am I the only one who can't stop staring at those exhaust and not for the right reasons?

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This is going to be about $45k MSRP and well into the 50's or more with markup.

nothx. Maybe at MSRP or a bit less but definitely not into the 50's. There are a lot of other cars in that range that would be a lot more appealing than a 300hp Civic with leather seats.
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Why would I spend more for this over a Golf R? And it's going to be even more impossible to find one, and without markups. No thanks.
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Originally Posted by RPhilMan1
Why would I spend more for this over a Golf R? And it's going to be even more impossible to find one, and without markups. No thanks.
Kind of like asking why would someone spend more for an Audi S3 over a Golf R. Better interior materials, less NVH, more refinement.
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Originally Posted by fiatlux
Kind of like asking why would someone spend more for an Audi S3 over a Golf R. Better interior materials, less NVH, more refinement.
That is true... because when i see S3's interior, it has audi treatment, instead of a carbon copy of VW's.

Can't say the same for the Si/CTR's interior vs. Integra. They look almost identical to me and i dont expect the Type S's interior to be any different other than some stitching and badges.

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Originally Posted by fiatlux
Kind of like asking why would someone spend more for an Audi S3 over a Golf R. Better interior materials, less NVH, more refinement.
Sure but the Integra isn't a whole lot better (or at all) than the Civic lol.
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Originally Posted by SamDoe1
Sure but the Integra isn't a whole lot better (or at all) than the Civic lol.
That's fair, but the Civic interior is a whole lot better than the Golf so the Integra is already starting from a better point. I don't know why people have a hard-on for VW interiors; the Golf R is full of hard plastics. Mk8 Golfs feel really cheap inside.

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Originally Posted by fiatlux
That's fair, but the Civic interior is a whole lot better than the Golf so the Integra is already starting from a better point. I don't know why people have a hard-on for VW interiors; the Golf R is full of hard plastics. Mk8 Golfs feel really cheap inside.
I've never been in a Mk8 but the interior of the Mk7.5 I had was a lot better than a Civic interior, even the current Civic. Not a ton of hard plastics to be found and the construction was amazing. I've never been in a new Integra though.

I'm not sure if it makes a difference for material/construction specs but the R models are made in Germany while the rest are made in Mexico which may lead to different perception of quality depending on which one you get.
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Originally Posted by SamDoe1
I've never been in a Mk8 but the interior of the Mk7.5 I had was a lot better than a Civic interior, even the current Civic. Not a ton of hard plastics to be found and the construction was amazing. I've never been in a new Integra though.

I'm not sure if it makes a difference for material/construction specs but the R models are made in Germany while the rest are made in Mexico which may lead to different perception of quality depending on which one you get.
The Mk8 is a pretty sizeable downgrade in terms of the interior compared to the Mk7, to say nothing of the facelifted one. I would go as far as to say it felt about as cheap as the old ILX, which is to say, pretty bad.
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Originally Posted by fiatlux
I would go as far as to say it felt about as cheap as the old ILX, which is to say, pretty bad.
Really? Besides sitting in one at an auto show, I have no other experience. But I find your comment hard to believe, with no disrespect. You make it seem like the Golf R has a worse interior than my ten-year-old Focus ST.

I have no experience with the new Integra as well but I have read plenty of reviews saying how refined the Golf R is (and also much more than the CTR) and there are zero complaints of NVH.

I get the comments of "STi is a $10k more expensive Impreza interior" and same for Golf R, Focus ST/RS, CTR, etc. But I love the interior of my Focus ST and a main reason why I've kept it so long.

One of the biggest reasons of my dislike of the Integra Type-S over the Golf R is FWD. I don't want another FWD car. I'm going to put my money on a tried and tested excellent AWD system. Anything over 300hp with FWD is a waste, and I'm talking DD duty here, not track.
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I haven't had any seat time in an MK8 Golf but I haven't heard that some of the materials are a downgrade from the mk7.5.

To be worse than the Civic though...that would be a pretty serious downgrade, which is not what I've been reading.
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Originally Posted by civicdrivr
I haven't had any seat time in an MK8 Golf but I haven't heard that some of the materials are a downgrade from the mk7.5.

To be worse than the Civic though...that would be a pretty serious downgrade, which is not what I've been reading.
Most reviews agree that the Mk8 interior is a downgrade over the Mk7, and most reviews agree they the Civic interior is towards the top of the class. The 11G Civic interior is quite nice. Don’t make me pull up quotes
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Originally Posted by fiatlux
The Mk8 is a pretty sizeable downgrade in terms of the interior compared to the Mk7, to say nothing of the facelifted one. I would go as far as to say it felt about as cheap as the old ILX, which is to say, pretty bad.
Sounds like I need to find a mk8 to sit in and check out for myself. I can't imagine they shit the bed that badly with the mk8...

The mk7 Golf R was a fucking fantastic car in every way except for having space for a baby lol.
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Autocorrect got me - it should have said "have heard".

That 11g Civic is nice, at $27k. Not at $40k.
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In Canada, Civic Type-R has been completely sold out for the next 3 years. The Integra Type-S is now the only ticket still available to get a true high-performance sub-compact car from Honda/Acura.



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Originally Posted by Edward'TLS
In Canada, Civic Type-R has been completely sold out for the next 3 years. The Integra Type-S is now the only ticket still available to get a true high-performance sub-compact car from Honda/Acura.
And this alone would.amke the Integra Type S popular. in our Vancouver FK8 chat group, we have quite a few people who are putting down deposits for the type s. It's a great alternative to the FL5, especially if you want heated seats, ELS, head up display, etc. Also not many want a big wing.

Yea if u want awd this isn't for you. But a lot of people really appreciate the type r driving feel.
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Not offering heated seats in the CTR is another deal breaker for me! At least the Integra Type-S will.
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I will gladly give you my heated steering wheel and seats to you for free
all i could think of how much weight they add, every time i look at those buttons.

While you are at it, you can take my sunroof too
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No sunroof, but definitely like the heated seats/wheel when it's [rarely, in SE TX] cold enough to use them.
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Originally Posted by oonowindoo
I will gladly give you my heated steering wheel and seats to you for free
all i could think of how much weight they add, every time i look at those buttons.

While you are at it, you can take my sunroof too
I highly doubt the heated seats and wheel adds much, if any weight.
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If it's more than 1lb I'd be very surprised

The sunroof on the other hand does add a good 40-60lbs up high.
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Originally Posted by civicdrivr
I haven't had any seat time in an MK8 Golf but I haven't heard that some of the materials are a downgrade from the mk7.5.

To be worse than the Civic though...that would be a pretty serious downgrade, which is not what I've been reading.
Originally Posted by fiatlux
Most reviews agree that the Mk8 interior is a downgrade over the Mk7, and most reviews agree they the Civic interior is towards the top of the class. The 11G Civic interior is quite nice. Don’t make me pull up quotes
Can both of you post the reviews you are talking about?
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Originally Posted by Comfy
Can both of you post the reviews you are talking about?
Traditionally, GTI customers have enjoyed interior appointments from the next class up, but the finishes in the latest generation aren't good enough for an Audi. While the dashboard is more modern than the upright minivan-like design of the old car, the materials lack richness and disappoint when you touch them.
https://www.caranddriver.com/reviews...y-the-numbers/

The Drawbacks: It’s a Mark 8 Golf: The interior feels a smidge cost-cut and hollow, especially next to the outgoing Mark 7.
https://www.hagerty.com/media/new-ca...r-gti-and-gli/

Unfortunately, Volkswagen has slightly cheapened the Golf's interior for this generation. Harder plastics run throughout the interior, and soft-touch materials that used to be commonplace in the previous-generation Golf R are now gone.
https://www.edmunds.com/car-news/202...ed-up-gti.html

As fun as the 2022 VW GTI is to drive, its interior, though nicely assembled, isn't especially premium. It looks futuristic, for sure; VW matched the exterior's futuristic look inside the cabin with sharp lines and plenty of honeycomb patterns, but there's a lot of hard plastics all around.
https://www.motortrend.com/reviews/2...t-test-review/


Unfortunately, unlike the high-quality environs of the previous generation, the new interior is marred by some chintzy finishes and hard plastics.
https://www.caranddriver.com/volkswagen/golf-gti


VW moved the GTI upmarket in price point. But the interior has gone from “Audi on a budget” to just “budget.” And it’s hard to forgive feeling like you’re flying in coach with the $40,000-plus Autobahn trim. The front seats and steering wheel feel lovely, but the rest of the cabin is varying shades of cheap plastic. My base model 2016 Sportwagen S interior at least made an effort to look premium.
https://www.gearpatrol.com/cars/g39124319/2022-volkswagen-golf-gti-review/


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​​​​​​​Though this is the most expensive and feature-rich GTI model ever, cost-cutting in some areas is obvious. We love that VW added extravagant features like a heated steering wheel, heated/ventilated front seats, heated rear seats, a Fender audio system, and more, but these all seem to be there to distract from a downgrade in interior materials. Part of the reason why we always felt the GTI was worth its price premium over rivals was the near-luxury interior. You could hop out of a GTI into an entry-level Audi, and wonder why the Audi was $10,000 more. The Mk8 lacks that niceness.We compared our tester's nearly $40,000 interior to a used base model GTI from 2016. The comparison showed many areas where the old model felt superior to the new car. Previously soft-touch materials for the dash and door cards on the Mk7 are replaced by tough scratchy replacements on the Mk8. Even under the hood, where admittedly owners rarely look, the new car now features a cheaper hood prop instead of a hood strut, and an ugly unlabeled engine cover. It's a nitpick, but for 40 grand, we can be picky.
​​​​​​​https://carbuzz.com/features/could-y...ge-dealbreaker

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320 Horsepower Confirmed for Acura Integra Type S; Full Reveal Next Month

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Didn't watch it, but it seems like a Civic TypeR?
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Originally Posted by pttl
Didn't watch it, but it seems like a Civic TypeR?
I suspect the entire drivetrain, suspension (including the dual axis front suspension), brakes, and some other components are lifted direct from CTR.
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I wonder if Acura dealers will put a markup on the ITS.

Glad it has a little more power than the CTR.
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^ Any that had markups un the TLX S, can almost guarantee similar on the ITS.
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Originally Posted by RPhilMan1
I wonder if Acura dealers will put a markup on the ITS.

Glad it has a little more power than the CTR.
They most definitely are. I already reached out to my local dealerships and the lowest ADM I've been able to get is $15K...

Bear in mind that my local dealership wanted $56K for a regular Integra that stickered for $38K...

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Is anyone really surprised that this is basically a rebadged CTR? I mean the normal Integra was a rebadged Civic lol.
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Originally Posted by fiatlux
They most definitely are. I already reached out to my local dealerships and the lowest ADM I've been able to get is $15K...

Bear in mind that my local dealership wanted $56K for a regular Integra that stickered for $38K...


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Originally Posted by fiatlux
They most definitely are. I already reached out to my local dealerships and the lowest ADM I've been able to get is $15K...

Bear in mind that my local dealership wanted $56K for a regular Integra that stickered for $38K...
Damnit... I do not want to play this game. I guess I'll ask my local dealers just for the hell of it.

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Is anyone really surprised that this is basically a rebadged CTR? I mean the normal Integra was a rebadged Civic lol.
Hey, I'll take a CTR with a better interior and more features. Not surprised, no. But I'm not playing the markup game in this economy.
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Hey, I'll take a CTR with a better interior and more features. Not surprised, no. But I'm not playing the markup game in this economy.
Same but the normal Integra 6MT was knocking on $40k and it's basically a Civic Si. What do you think the ITS, even at MSRP, is going to do? If this thing gets priced at $50k+, that brings up a lot of other alternatives that are superior in nearly every way. Only thing it has going for it is the manual.
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Have seen 5-6 on the road here, not a bad looking car, but hard to justify the upcharge over the Honda, IMO.
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Originally Posted by SamDoe1
Same but the normal Integra 6MT was knocking on $40k and it's basically a Civic Si. What do you think the ITS, even at MSRP, is going to do? If this thing gets priced at $50k+, that brings up a lot of other alternatives that are superior in nearly every way. Only thing it has going for it is the manual.
For manual purists, that in and of itself is enough of a selling point. The only other premium sedans with a manual is the CT4-V BW, CT5-V BW, and M3. The CT4 backseat is laughably small, the CT5-V BW costs 6-figures, and the M3 looks like a pig and a beaver had a baby.
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...and the M3 looks like a pig and a beaver had a baby.
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Originally Posted by fiatlux
For manual purists, that in and of itself is enough of a selling point. The only other premium sedans with a manual is the CT4-V BW, CT5-V BW, and M3. The CT4 backseat is laughably small, the CT5-V BW costs 6-figures, and the M3 looks like a pig and a beaver had a baby.
Couple things:

- The ITS is considered a sedan?
- Any Acura is considered premium??

I don't think anyone looking at vehicles like the BW or M3 will ever consider an ITS. If anything, it's the people buying the CTR, Golf R, GR Corolla, Elantra N, Mini JCW (for those that know it's still being made), and to a lesser extent the Jetta GLI and GTI - all of which can be had with a manual.
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Originally Posted by civicdrivr
Couple things:

- The ITS is considered a sedan?
- Any Acura is considered premium??

I don't think anyone looking at vehicles like the BW or M3 will ever consider an ITS. If anything, it's the people buying the CTR, Golf R, GR Corolla, Elantra N, Mini JCW (for those that know it's still being made), and to a lesser extent the Jetta GLI and GTI - all of which can be had with a manual.
I guess technically it's a liftback, but it's got 4 doors so it fulfills the sedan requirements.

As for premium, yeah Acura is premium (not luxury).


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