Acura: Integra News
#481
Azine Jabroni
CVT standard
Honda hates us
Honda hates us
#482
Ex-OEM King
They aren't even launching with the launch color?
WTAF?
WTAF?
#483
Whats up with RDX owners?
iTrader: (9)
What a joke.
#484
Old Man Yelling at Clouds
This is starting to look like the marketing department is running amok.
#485
Ex-OEM King
What marketing department? The entire leadership team at Acura needs to just get canned and start over. The piss poor sales of everything other than the MDX and RDX (both of which do worse than competitors in their segments as it is) is evidence that something isn't working. I highly doubt a marginally tarted up Civic with a much higher price tag is going to fix anything.
#487
Team Owner
^ not if there is a sign up sheet.
#488
Old Man Yelling at Clouds
What marketing department? The entire leadership team at Acura needs to just get canned and start over. The piss poor sales of everything other than the MDX and RDX (both of which do worse than competitors in their segments as it is) is evidence that something isn't working. I highly doubt a marginally tarted up Civic with a much higher price tag is going to fix anything.
But you're spot on - Acura deserves better than what it's getting from it's leadership team.
#489
Ex-OEM King
#490
Senior Moderator
#491
Team Owner
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#492
Ex-OEM King
#493
Whats up with RDX owners?
iTrader: (9)
No, they deserved better in 2009 when the abomination known as the 4G TL came out. Over a decade later, they most certainly deserve all of the shit they get for the decisions they've been making and standing behind.
#494
No chrome door handles? No sale.
Chrome door handles = luxury
I don't think the Integra even has a double wishbone suspension since it's basically a rebadged Civic, right?
You do realize that TSX and ILX different vehicles. one comes with Double wishbone suspension and other not. same for rim/tire size and leather difference.
TLX is non leather non double wishbone 4 cylinder vehicle compared to Premium TL. TLX don't even have chrome handles like TSX.
TLX is non leather non double wishbone 4 cylinder vehicle compared to Premium TL. TLX don't even have chrome handles like TSX.
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#495
AZ Community Team
7G Civic to current gen do not.
#496
Race Director
We have waited five months since the Integra Prototype was revealed, and now what we’ve been long awaiting is finally here. This is the 2023 Acura Integra in final production form. Today not only gives us photos of the Integra in its final guise, but Acura also dropped all the information and details we’ve been anticipating. Let’s dig in.
Per usual with Acura Prototype models, the production version mirrors the prototype closely. The obvious prototype elements are gone, like the big “Integra” side graphic and color exhaust inserts, but most of what we saw last year remains on this hatchback. One notable omission is the lack of photos with the yellow exterior paint Acura launched the Prototype in. A leak of the available paint colors suggested that yellow wasn’t on the table for initial launch, but that doesn’t mean Acura won’t introduce it as an option down the road.
Just as was teased in the Proto, the only available engine will be a 1.5-liter turbocharged four-cylinder, and it’ll be officially rated at 200 horsepower and 192 pound-feet of torque (same output as the new Civic Si). A six-speed manual transmission with auto rev-matching will be available on the A-Spec model, but a continuously variable transmission (CVT) will be standard across the line. The CVT features “Step Shift” programming to simulate shifts, and also allows you to move the engine speed around with paddle shifters. We would’ve loved to see Acura figure out a way to use its 10-speed automatic in the Civic platform, but alas, the Civic’s CVT will be the only automatic option here. If you choose the six-speed manual — which we strongly suggest you do — the Integra gains a helical limited-slip differential that is not equipped to automatic cars.
Delving further into the performance realm, the Integra gets an optional adaptive damper system. If you recall, Honda dropped the adaptive dampers from this generation of Civic Si, making it a reason to upgrade to an Integra. The adaptive dampers have three settings: Comfort, Normal and Sport. Similar to other Acura models, the Integra features various drive modes to adjust throttle response, automatic transmission mapping, steering feel and gauge coloration. If you get the “A-Spec with Technology Package” model, an Individual mode is added that allows you to independently change all the modes separate from one another. It also adds an option to change the in-cabin sound. Acura says it’s fitted a “new coil type exhaust system” in an effort to enhance the sound, but the mode switching in the cabin will be for sound piped in over the speakers.
Moving to the interior, it’s clear that we’re looking at a Civic’s interior that’s been modified and tweaked for use in an Acura. Many hard points like the screens, climate controls and steering wheel appear the same as the Honda, but the dash design is new. Plus, we get a new vent design (no longer stretches all the way across the dash), new trims, different seats and likely a whole lot more that will be obvious when we finally get to sit in the Integra.
The tech itself looks pulled directly from the Civic. A 7-inch infotainment touchscreen display is standard, while a 9-inch-display is optional. Both are running what looks like Honda’s software and don’t feature Acura’s fancy True Touchpad technology. The standard infotainment has wired Apple CarPlay and Android Auto, but the 9-inch screen upgrades you to wireless versions of both. The standard instrument cluster is a 10.2-inch fully digital cluster, and you can augment this with an optional 5.3-inch head-up display. The HUD is part of the Technology Package that also includes a wireless phone charger, 16-speaker ELS audio system, rear USB Type C ports, 12-way power driver’s seat, 4-way power passenger seat, interior ambient lighting and more.
If you specifically go for the A-Spec without the Technology Package, you upgrade to gray 18-inch wheels with wider (235-section-width) performance all-season tires, gloss black window surrounds, gloss black front and rear trim, a lip spoiler and A-Spec badging. If you were curious, 17-inch wheels are standard, and 19-inch wheels are available as an option.
As for safety features, Acura includes its usual suite of driver assistance systems as standard, including automatic emergency braking, adaptive cruise control, lane-keeping assist, traffic sign recognition, blind spot warning and rear cross-traffic monitoring. Upgrade to the Technology Package, and you get front and rear parking sensors and low-speed braking control to stop low-speed accidents.
Full pricing details are still not available, but Acura says the Integra will start around $30,000 with deliveries beginning this spring. For those into NFTs, Acura says the first 500 reservations with a deposit placed will receive an Integra NFT. Of course, if that’s not something you’re into, you can simply not claim said NFT and go drive your real car instead.
Per usual with Acura Prototype models, the production version mirrors the prototype closely. The obvious prototype elements are gone, like the big “Integra” side graphic and color exhaust inserts, but most of what we saw last year remains on this hatchback. One notable omission is the lack of photos with the yellow exterior paint Acura launched the Prototype in. A leak of the available paint colors suggested that yellow wasn’t on the table for initial launch, but that doesn’t mean Acura won’t introduce it as an option down the road.
Just as was teased in the Proto, the only available engine will be a 1.5-liter turbocharged four-cylinder, and it’ll be officially rated at 200 horsepower and 192 pound-feet of torque (same output as the new Civic Si). A six-speed manual transmission with auto rev-matching will be available on the A-Spec model, but a continuously variable transmission (CVT) will be standard across the line. The CVT features “Step Shift” programming to simulate shifts, and also allows you to move the engine speed around with paddle shifters. We would’ve loved to see Acura figure out a way to use its 10-speed automatic in the Civic platform, but alas, the Civic’s CVT will be the only automatic option here. If you choose the six-speed manual — which we strongly suggest you do — the Integra gains a helical limited-slip differential that is not equipped to automatic cars.
Delving further into the performance realm, the Integra gets an optional adaptive damper system. If you recall, Honda dropped the adaptive dampers from this generation of Civic Si, making it a reason to upgrade to an Integra. The adaptive dampers have three settings: Comfort, Normal and Sport. Similar to other Acura models, the Integra features various drive modes to adjust throttle response, automatic transmission mapping, steering feel and gauge coloration. If you get the “A-Spec with Technology Package” model, an Individual mode is added that allows you to independently change all the modes separate from one another. It also adds an option to change the in-cabin sound. Acura says it’s fitted a “new coil type exhaust system” in an effort to enhance the sound, but the mode switching in the cabin will be for sound piped in over the speakers.
Moving to the interior, it’s clear that we’re looking at a Civic’s interior that’s been modified and tweaked for use in an Acura. Many hard points like the screens, climate controls and steering wheel appear the same as the Honda, but the dash design is new. Plus, we get a new vent design (no longer stretches all the way across the dash), new trims, different seats and likely a whole lot more that will be obvious when we finally get to sit in the Integra.
The tech itself looks pulled directly from the Civic. A 7-inch infotainment touchscreen display is standard, while a 9-inch-display is optional. Both are running what looks like Honda’s software and don’t feature Acura’s fancy True Touchpad technology. The standard infotainment has wired Apple CarPlay and Android Auto, but the 9-inch screen upgrades you to wireless versions of both. The standard instrument cluster is a 10.2-inch fully digital cluster, and you can augment this with an optional 5.3-inch head-up display. The HUD is part of the Technology Package that also includes a wireless phone charger, 16-speaker ELS audio system, rear USB Type C ports, 12-way power driver’s seat, 4-way power passenger seat, interior ambient lighting and more.
If you specifically go for the A-Spec without the Technology Package, you upgrade to gray 18-inch wheels with wider (235-section-width) performance all-season tires, gloss black window surrounds, gloss black front and rear trim, a lip spoiler and A-Spec badging. If you were curious, 17-inch wheels are standard, and 19-inch wheels are available as an option.
As for safety features, Acura includes its usual suite of driver assistance systems as standard, including automatic emergency braking, adaptive cruise control, lane-keeping assist, traffic sign recognition, blind spot warning and rear cross-traffic monitoring. Upgrade to the Technology Package, and you get front and rear parking sensors and low-speed braking control to stop low-speed accidents.
Full pricing details are still not available, but Acura says the Integra will start around $30,000 with deliveries beginning this spring. For those into NFTs, Acura says the first 500 reservations with a deposit placed will receive an Integra NFT. Of course, if that’s not something you’re into, you can simply not claim said NFT and go drive your real car instead.
#497
Moderator
Yellow to return as limited PMC Edition, with no other changes & a $10k price hike [/speculation]
#498
My first Avatar....
Gotta get the Aspec to get the 6MT.
#500
Old Man Yelling at Clouds
Final judgement being reserved for when we see pricing compared to it's Civic counterparts, but so far its a swing-and-a-miss.
#501
I think it looks a lot better in these colors than in the yellow from the unveil.
If the regular Civic and Si didn't exist, this would be a pretty good offering (minus the CVT). The problem is that you can easily tell this is just a Civic with some insulation and nicer interior materials and some A badges instead of H. While in a vacuum there's nothing wrong with what this car is, in reality people are going to definitely cross-shop the two, and the gap here is even smaller than it is between the Accord and TLX.
If the regular Civic and Si didn't exist, this would be a pretty good offering (minus the CVT). The problem is that you can easily tell this is just a Civic with some insulation and nicer interior materials and some A badges instead of H. While in a vacuum there's nothing wrong with what this car is, in reality people are going to definitely cross-shop the two, and the gap here is even smaller than it is between the Accord and TLX.
#502
Ex-OEM King
The car looks great and has good features, I'm just not sure why I'd pay more for this over a Civic Si...and also why I wouldn't pay either the same or a bit more for a CTR.
#503
Enthusiasts on a budget will go for the Si, and enthusiasts with money (or who have poor financial sense) will go for either the CTR or ITS. The 6MT regular Integra is in no-mans land here.
#504
My first Avatar....
The only knock on the Si is the back seating area of the interior looks like junk in comparison to its front seating. I'd still get the Si over this integra and put the 10k in my pocket.
#505
A CVT?
What an embarrassment it is for this car to wear the Integra badge. Another Honda+ product from the failed leaders over at Acura.
Acura getting in on the NFT hype.
What an embarrassment it is for this car to wear the Integra badge. Another Honda+ product from the failed leaders over at Acura.
Full pricing details are still not available, but Acura says the Integra will start around $30,000 with deliveries beginning this spring. For those into NFTs, Acura says the first 500 reservations with a deposit placed will receive an Integra NFT. Of course, if that’s not something you’re into, you can simply not claim said NFT and go drive your real car instead.
Last edited by AZuser; 03-10-2022 at 04:21 PM.
#506
In a first for an automaker, the Acura of Decentraland digital showroom housed in the metaverse at www.acuraverse.com will open to fans on March 22. Visitors can:
- Tour the Acura virtual showroom while exploring the new 2023 Integra and key vehicle features, including a powerful turbocharged engine and six-speed manual transmission.
- Browse the new Integra wearable collection, also created in collaboration with NFT artist, Wannerstedt.
- Play the Acura exclusive racing game, “Beat That” and explore other interactive rooms and activities.
Visitors are not required to have NFT ownership for entry to the Acura of Decentraland digital showroom when it opens in conjunction with the first-ever metaverse fashion week.
Someone once quipped that Acura is more of a marketing exercise than an automaker. At this point, I'd be hardpressed to disagree.
Last edited by fiatlux; 03-10-2022 at 04:29 PM.
#507
Team Owner
I still only see last last gen Hyundai Genesis coupe in the back... like 90% identical + LED tails.
#508
Race Director
Maybe the Acura marketing folks know something?
Acura: 70 Percent Of Integra Reservation Holders Want Manual Trans (motor1.com)
Just a week ago, Acura unveiled the 2023 Integra with a starting price of “around $30,000.” As standard, the 1.5-liter turbo under the hood is mated to a CVT, though the optional A-Spec performance package brings an available six-speed manual. It turns out the demand for the three-pedal configuration is very high, even higher than what Acura initially anticipated.
Andrew Quillin from Acura’s PR team recently announced on Twitter that the reservations for the new Integra are trending above 70 percent for the manual gearbox option. Honestly, this is a little surprising for us and it appears that even the automaker wasn’t expecting such a high portion of the early reservations to be for manuals, considering that historically the MT accounted for about 50 percent of model’s sales in the 1986-2001 period.
There’s no detailed pricing information available for the moment, besides the “around $30,000” remark, though Acura is already accepting reservations from customers. We spoke to Acura, and while they didn’t confirm how many Integra reservations they have, they said it's "above our expectations." Reservation holders placed a $500 deposit, and Acura expects a majority of those to convert to sales.
Andrew Quillin from Acura’s PR team recently announced on Twitter that the reservations for the new Integra are trending above 70 percent for the manual gearbox option. Honestly, this is a little surprising for us and it appears that even the automaker wasn’t expecting such a high portion of the early reservations to be for manuals, considering that historically the MT accounted for about 50 percent of model’s sales in the 1986-2001 period.
There’s no detailed pricing information available for the moment, besides the “around $30,000” remark, though Acura is already accepting reservations from customers. We spoke to Acura, and while they didn’t confirm how many Integra reservations they have, they said it's "above our expectations." Reservation holders placed a $500 deposit, and Acura expects a majority of those to convert to sales.
#509
Ex-OEM King
I'm not sure why they're surprised? If one wanted the CVT, the Civic is the better buy lol...actually it's the better buy even with the manual but whatever.
#510
- Slightly more powerful engine
- Supposedly better transmission tuning
- Better interior materials
- Hopefully more insulation and less NVH (they better not make the same mistake they did with the ILX)
- Power driver's seat (though no memory setting so I actually think it's worse than having manual seats)
- LED taillights
- Heated front seats
- 10" digital gauge cluster instead of 7"
- A badge instead of H
- Leather trimmed seats
- LED headlights
- Moonroof
- BLIS, LKAS, Honda/AcuraWatch, etc.
- Keyless entry
- 7" infotainment
- 8-speaker audio system (but maybe the Acura one is better than the Honda one?)
- 17" wheels
#511
Team Owner
Maybe the Acura marketing folks know something?
Acura: 70 Percent Of Integra Reservation Holders Want Manual Trans (motor1.com)
Acura: 70 Percent Of Integra Reservation Holders Want Manual Trans (motor1.com)
What i really wanna know is how many people actually signed up? I remember seeing somewhere only 500 slots were available. If that is a case, that is hardly a sign up sheet
#512
Team Owner
I don't know if I would say the Civic is necessarily a better buy...it looks like the base Integra will be spec'd similarly to the Civic EX-L, which starts at $27K. For $3K more, you get:
- Slightly more powerful engine
- Supposedly better transmission tuning
- Better interior materials
- Hopefully more insulation and less NVH (they better not make the same mistake they did with the ILX)
- Power driver's seat (though no memory setting so I actually think it's worse than having manual seats)
- LED taillights
- Heated front seats
- 10" digital gauge cluster instead of 7"
- A badge instead of H
- Leather trimmed seats
- LED headlights
- Moonroof
- BLIS, LKAS, Honda/AcuraWatch, etc.
- Keyless entry
- 7" infotainment
- 8-speaker audio system (but maybe the Acura one is better than the Honda one?)
- 17" wheels
The biggest issue is you need to get Aspec (35-37k) to get the 6mt.... compare that to the $27k 6mt Si....that is not $3k more.
#513
Team Owner
At those prices i dont know why i would take a weak ass Integra 6mt at 35k over a 6mt Elantra N at 32k, which is a very very good driving car per all the reviews, with good interior. It is just a little ugly that is all.
When i was watching those reviews, it is as if Elantra N is what the Integra is supposed to be.
When i was watching those reviews, it is as if Elantra N is what the Integra is supposed to be.
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#514
Maybe the Acura marketing folks know something?
Acura: 70 Percent Of Integra Reservation Holders Want Manual Trans (motor1.com)
Acura: 70 Percent Of Integra Reservation Holders Want Manual Trans (motor1.com)
Maybe they should consider offering a 6MT on the TLX-S as a limited edition? Open the reservation books and let interested buyers leave a (non-refundable?) deposit for one.
Acura TLX-S PMC 6MT
#515
Team Owner
It is too late for TLX-S. 6mt or not.
That car's reputation is already destroyed when it was first launched. All everyone remembers now is how it got smoked by everyone and their moms.
That car's reputation is already destroyed when it was first launched. All everyone remembers now is how it got smoked by everyone and their moms.
#516
Ex-OEM King
At $35k+ I'd just get an Accord 2.0T Touring and suck it up on the auto. Would be a better car all around lol.
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#517
#518
I'm referring to the typical person who will be buying the car. Once all the initial demand from the enthusiasts subside, I'd expect like 90% of sales to the automatic. Only enthusiasts will by the 6MT, and that comparison is a totally different matter. But the automatic is going to be compared to the regular Civic, not the Si.
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#519
Race Director
Biker, who thinks there might be some arbitrage going on with some of these reservations.
#520
Team Owner
That is weak.. it is more like a marketing thing than anything.
500 is probably 25 to 30% of their monthly sales for the Integra (at least during the initial 6 months or so). It really doenst mean anything if only 500 were allowed.
Now if they make it 10000 or more, then we will have an idea just how excited people are