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Seems more like protective packaging. I'd be very concern about those rubber lines surrounding the Turbo and the additional heat generated, especially sitting above the transmission. Heat is the killer of all. I sure don't miss pushing wrenches, but rip to the technicians doing basic services to this vehicle especially in the summer. That engine bay will be unbearable. Such a terrible design IMO.
Acura has been testing this powertrain since, 2018-2019. I personal do not think heat will be a issue.
So much hype. I sense $80K price tags coming with dealer markups and underwhelming performance. They already CGI'd that drift in the promo video so....
Looks like a 6200RPM redline. That makes sense, since the TD04 is a pretty small turbo that runs out of steam at the top end. I suppose at least mid-range and response should be pretty good.
Acura could have done a much better job to flash up the engine bay. That cover is pathetic.
To be fair, it's hard to make a transversely mounted V6 look good...but I agree, this engine cover looks like it belongs on a Honda Pilot. Hopefully they spent the underhood bling money (and the HUD money) on performance.
Sofyan is super excited! I am very happy that Acura has invited the journalists and will give them a few days to test drive this car. The look of this vehicle is just wow! Definitely looks very unique compared to its competitors. Well done Acura! Now gives us the performance numbers
Fans and haters, both are impatient to know more 🤣
They had mechanical brake installed, you can see rear tires lock up to make it look rwd. Then they added cgi smoke.
I see what you mean. However, are you sure it was not power-sliding? The car was going downhill and well into the corner, so the rear grip was already low. The abrupt transition I think can be achieved by the sudden weight transfer (more steering angle than needed) + WOT. Type-S seems to allow a lot more yaw movement than ever before. I would give Acura the benefit of doubt, until more capable journalists like Randy Pobst say what the car can and cannot do.
I see what you mean. However, are you sure it was not power-sliding? The car was going downhill and well into the corner, so the rear grip was already low. The abrupt transition I think can be achieved by the sudden weight transfer (more steering angle than needed) + WOT. Type-S seems to allow a lot more yaw movement than ever before. I would give Acura the benefit of doubt, until more capable journalists like Randy Pobst say what the car can and cannot do.
I see what you mean. However, are you sure it was not power-sliding? The car was going downhill and well into the corner, so the rear grip was already low. The abrupt transition I think can be achieved by the sudden weight transfer (more steering angle than needed) + WOT. Type-S seems to allow a lot more yaw movement than ever before. I would give Acura the benefit of doubt, until more capable journalists like Randy Pobst say what the car can and cannot do.
Don't exactly remember where I read it, but someone did mention that they disabled most of the traction control system (pulling fuses) in order to make it drift. I know TB pulled fuses on the base TLX to get it to drift, so I wouldn't be surprised if Acura's PR team did something to hype it up. I could be completely wrong also.
Originally Posted by WTF.Acura
Acura has been testing this powertrain since, 2018-2019. I personal do not think heat will be a issue.
That type of testing was very short term. Long term is key here. There's a reason why you don't see this setup often. I can assure you, after you drive hard (especially in the summer) the amount of heat coming off the engine bay will be significant. Heat is and always has been the killer of all things. It's a terrible design and I can't imagine how many aftermarket companies are going to invest in things as an intake or downpipe. A tune is more likely to happen..
Looking into the Turbo, seems as it's a TD04H (T/C) turbo charger but I can't verify which exact TD04H Turbo Acura used for the TLX-S. I did some quick research on the TD04H turbo, used in several applications including that Saab 2.8L Engine.
I didn't see the around view button on the windshield wiper stalk, nor did I see a camera above or below the emblem on the front grill. Extremely disappointing.
From the pics it looks like there's still a far amount of room from the rear of the cylinder head to the firewall. Have to see a underneath pic to see how tight it is.
Originally Posted by sonyfever
Not sure if I am reading it right - the cooling system looks very interesting and quite extensive. The turbo housing also seems larger than the hp number suggests.
Yeah the inlet (outlet?) piping from the head ends showed something I've never seen before on a Honda V6 (C or J).
Originally Posted by WTF.Acura
Acura has been testing this powertrain since, 2018-2019. I personal do not think heat will be a issue.
there are probably several Type-S mules that have 100k+ miles in areas from the heat of Arizona summer to Minnesota winter testing all the vehicle systems.
And Honda/Acura engineers have probably done all the necessary thermal analysis down to CAD models with probably thousands of hours of CFD modelling.
And I'd imagine there are large number of instrumented engine compartment tests (dozens of thermocouples everywhere) to validate engine temp modelling with various conditional parameters.
Honda/Acura are typically very good at long term vehicle testing. Even the Germans now test their vehicles in the Southwest and Midwest for environment conditions.
Don't exactly remember where I read it, but someone did mention that they disabled most of the traction control system (pulling fuses) in order to make it drift. I know TB pulled fuses on the base TLX to get it to drift, so I wouldn't be surprised if Acura's PR team did something to hype it up. I could be completely wrong also.
That type of testing was very short term. Long term is key here. There's a reason why you don't see this setup often. I can assure you, after you drive hard (especially in the summer) the amount of heat coming off the engine bay will be significant. Heat is and always has been the killer of all things. It's a terrible design and I can't imagine how many aftermarket companies are going to invest in things as an intake or downpipe. A tune is more likely to happen..
From what I read, they installed mechanical hand brake (in addition to pulling fuses). If you watch that video in 1080p or above at 0.5x on YouTube, you can see the rear right wheel lock up right before drift. Not slow down (SHAWD) but lock up. That is IMPOSSIBLE with electric brake. And it even says on the bottom, "pre-production vehicle".
Getting excited again...glad the journalists (and I include Sofyan et al in that group nowadays) are getting a look at the Type S. I keep saying I want Acura to hit a home run here, and I hope they do!
5/20 can't come fast enough.
I'm kinda hoping Acura brings a Type S to NSXPO this summer for track participants to try out. They did this with the last gen TLX A-Spec back in 2017. Since I'm not buying immediately, I'd sure love the opportunity to drive one.
Note that this is on the optional 20” Y-spoke wheels. I don’t know if there’s been confirmation yet on what tires come with the standard 19” wheels.
True - but for purposes of media testing it was absolutely essential that these cars have summer tires. Didn't Acura do media drives of the NSX with the all-season rubber?
How many of you in here will be trading in yours for this?
Unfortunately, the lack of rear seat space has taken this out of consideration for at least the next few years. It could have 600hp and it would still have to be a hard pass.
Unfortunately, the lack of rear seat space has taken this out of consideration for at least the next few years. It could have 600hp and it would still have to be a hard pass.
This is me as well. I need a daily driver with a functional rear seat for another three years, until my teenaged son leaves the nest. The Type S will still be around at that time. In the meantime, the RLX will do me fine.
How many of you in here will be trading in yours for this?
It definitely has piqued my interest, but I doubt I will trade in my 08 TL-S 6 speed. Haven't decided if I would keep mine or sell privately but won't be trading in either. way I also won't be paying any ADMU either. Maybe MSRP, but I would have a tough time with this philosophically. Time will tell but am looking forward to 5/20.
This is me as well. I need a daily driver with a functional rear seat for another three years, until my teenaged son leaves the nest. The Type S will still be around at that time. In the meantime, the RLX will do me fine.
Same here as well. I really enjoyed my A-Spec test drive and it's a nice improvement from the 1G. But, I need a functional rear seat as it has to serve as a viable backup to our MDX. If anything, may actually consider an Accord Touring IF I do swap out for another Honda product.
Hope the TLX-S performance numbers turn out to be better than the hp/lb-ft ratings imply.
05-04-2021, 09:11 PM
there are probably several Type-S mules that have 100k+ miles in areas from the heat of Arizona summer to Minnesota winter testing all the vehicle systems.
