Kense

How is that guy a mod? It’s very weird behavior.

ELIN

Apparently anyone can be a mod these days. I suppose even bad publicity is still publicity.

richii0207

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Sincerely,
Your community Acura White Knight

fiatlux

Yeah for some reason he’s obsessed with dancing on the Stinger and Infiniti graves but as soon as someone mentions Audi or BMW he tells them to go to the other forums. Rules for thee but not for me?

MarcoTLX

This thread is hilarious now, like I said before forget the competition and how fast they are, TLX is the hottest looking car in the segment right now and only the Genesis G70 comes close in looks.

Tony Pac

Sadly this forum is irrelevant because of these "Enthusiasts". 24/7 full time job at Acura forum bashing the brand. And now they are commenting on my message. SMH!

djhtsx

iTrader: (2)

Acura did an amazing job with this car now granted there are a lot of things missing but I’m hoping Acura will add the missing features with the MMC. The PMC is already showing you what can be added with with just minor upgrades. I’m still on the fence on if I would choose an S5 SB or a type s.

ESHBG

Because you keep trying to deflect and never actually address anything. But let's try to get back on topic and what is your prediction for TLX sales in December? How big of a decrease this time?

Legend2TL

This is just speculation on AZ forums, you do not know the exact supply chain issues with the various models and what if any reallocation of components is happening.

ELIN

I was giving Acura the benefit of a doubt that the chip shortage has limited TLX production (best case scenario).
I suppose worst case scenario is that Acura has determined the TLX is not worth making compared to Integra/RDX/MDX.

Legend2TL

Acura has publicly stated they are suffering from SCM issues, they have not indicated what they are specifically. In terms of the 2nd statement that would be a stupid thing for any business to do with a large NRE based product. All indications are Honda/Acura have capacity at their facilities in North America currently with COVID19 subsiding in both Canada and the US, that was in some auto industry news release earlier this year.

Just separating the facts from the speculation, which crops up frequently in virtually any online forum.

bilirubin

FWIW, here are the sales figures from Q3 2021, before Honda's supply shortage hit hard...
13,591 - BMW 3-series
11,289 - Mercedes C-class
7520 - Acura TLX
6767 - Lexus IS
5496 - Audi A4/A5
3042 - Volvo S/V60
2930 - Genesis G70
2901 - Infiniti Q50

ELIN

So when do we start dancing on the grave of the G70?

fiatlux

For such a great car, it’s wild that it’s being outsold by more expensive German cars. BMW/MB owners must not have known about the greatness of Acura.

ESHBG

The G70 is a nice car but it's impractical for most because the interior is not very large...and the B pillar is thick and was intrusive on ingress/egress. I could certainly live with it but coming from a TSX I want something a little roomier.

ELIN

For me, I never considered Genesis because of lack of brand separation. If I'm buying a luxury brand, I shouldn't be waiting in a service room shared with Hyundai customers.

Hyundai/KIA make some of the best looking cars these days (regardless of price) but I've personally moved on from mass market brands.

ESHBG

I wouldn't have that issue here in the Philly area, as we have multiple standalone Genesis dealerships. But yes for most I am sure that is taken into consideration.

Honda430

You’d be surprised at how many women buy the 3 series. They’re not buying it for performance. They’re buying it for clout. And, based on the folks I see driving the C series I’d estimate that buying segment is 70% female. The TLX for what ever reason does not appear to be that popular with females.

ijm5012

What a strange f*cking thread this is. It sounds like two teenagers going at it back and forth, not the type of behavior I’d expect from adults.

TLX is a good car, but it’s not without its faults. It’s small on the inside given how big the exterior is. The extra couple hundred pounds Acura designed in to the car affect its performance and fuel economy figures relative to the competition.

But on the flip side, it’s one of the best looking cars in the class, and the powertrain should be very reliable, which helps minimize cost if ownership for those of us who tend to keep our vehicle well beyond the warranty period.

ELIN

Probably because the TLX is too big and harder to park relative to the 3 series, C Class, etc.

Any other "identity issue" (small inside/big outside) cars that are also unpopular with women? We may have something here that could probably be picked up fairly easy using machine learning/AI.

ESHBG

This is what happens when a car that was hyped up to be the next best thing flops and is now barely selling, not enough owners and constructive conversation to keep this thread moving without the banter. But if you didn't have this these threads would dry up overnight.

richii0207

Most owners moved on to other communities with more than 5 people who constantly repeat the same thing as ad nauseam since there was nothing new to gain from it.

ESHBG

And I am sure those communities are hopping also with the hundreds of thousands TLX owners.

richii0207

Actually, the two I am in have over 3k members and lots of useful information. The best part is that members aren’t so repetitive with their posts.

ESHBG

Yeah having to dispute posts with the facts does get repetitive after a while.

richii0207

From what I’ve seen, many of the “facts” were wrong. I guess when you don’t have the car, DYI posts are not possible so only resorting to citing magazines is what one can do.

Stay tuned for episode 1006 of “same posts on AZ”.

frainc

So the TLX is 8.1 in. longer and 3.3 in wider than a BMW 3 series. Many big phones are that big and you are telling me that because of this it's a problem to park and drive. Maybe they shouldn't be behind the wheel of a car then. Most people buy them because they could say, " Hey, I got a Bimmer or a Benz".

leomio2.0

I like the new look of Acura's hoods, but it does take quite some time to learn the front corners of the car due to the humps. Add to that how long the front clip is in the TLX and I can see many people who aren't adept behind the wheel (too many nowadays) being turned off by the car. Visibility is good, but if the car gives you anxiety on the test drive, I can see people going elsewhere for their vehicle purchase.


Any news on getting more power out of this engine? It doesn't seem P2R has put out anything new and IMW sent out those 25 beta tunes a couple months ago.

richii0207

Latest I’ve heard was a post from DRob saying that the latest Stage 1 tune has more output than the beta tunes which was a few days ago. No official numbers yet

ELIN

You don't need statistics to understand that a smaller car will have more opportunities to find parking compared to a bigger car.

I made a couple of turns yesterday in a tight municipal lot in Queens that was riddled with double-parked cars waiting for folks to come back to their cars to take their spot. If I was driving the TLX, I probably wouldn't even have bothered entering the lot.

By the way, the length is closer to 9" longer as my X3 has the same length as the 3 series.

richii0207

It seems as though you weren’t fond of the car because of fuel economy, gas tank size, car size, infotainment system, braking, and acceleration. Why did you even purchase the car? Did you test drive it before buying?

ELIN

Are you implying that a 15 min test drive is the best indicator of a happy marriage? I think any owner who’s ever been unhappy would think otherwise!

You also forget there was very little info on this car when it first came out. I finished a 2 year tour of duty and there’s more info now than ever before.

frainc

He didn't like the car and has moved on to another car, which I don't have a problem with. But to posts everyday about it just gets old at some point. I have now 25,000 problem free miles on my TLX and love it. Like I noted before, people should learn how to drive these days. Don't know why he and others who never had this car keep coming back and beating up this car. There are many other types of cars out there so go buy one of those and enjoy. The TLX is what it is, nothing more or less, so get over it!

richii0207

Absolutely. There are multiple members here who have opinions on the cars driving dynamics and its size after a simple test drive. A few even wrote reviews about the car.

Thank you for your service, BTW

Honda430

Elin bought a car that didn’t meet his aspirations. For what ever reason he won’t admit that and incessantly complains about the vehicle to justify why he bought a BMW. It was pretty obvious to me by the way he gushed over Bear’s post that he had BMW envy. Now that he has one he’s simply hanging around here trying to rub our faces in it.

ELIN

I only post on AZ now when:

1) Someone is directly asking me something

2) Someone is purposefully shaking the beehive (like your post)

3) Someone posts drivel/nonsense that needs proper correction

The mods may be able to confirm that my posts per day/week/month has significantly dropped here since I left Acura. There's just nothing for me here unless someone needs help with their decision making.

Honestly, I've never been in any other car forum (Acura or otherwise) where certain members feel the need to limit talk of other car brands. It's almost like they're secretly working for Acura and performing some form of damage control. The animosity to former owners who have switched is quite odd. Has Acura become the "don't let the door hit your ass on the way out" brand?

fiatlux

I think the answer is simple: hang out in the Car Talk subforum. Many of the old timer mods there are no longer Acura owners either, and it's outside of the purview of the newly minted "mods" in this subforum.

ELIN

Got it. Bye, everyone!

Tony Pac

Goodbye! All the best and happy new year!

Tony Pac

The reviews for the new Accord is out. I watched a couple of them and not sure if Honda made these changes (less HP, more luxurious than sporty, CVT, Hybrid) to create a bigger separation between TLX and Accord or not? But clearly, this new generation of Accord is weaker than the previous one IMHO.

My personal opinion, Honda did not do a great job with the exterior design.