2009 Acura TL/CL Type-S-Merged Threads-All 2009 topics will be merged here
#1281
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Originally Posted by Xpditor
We're all holding our breath and wondering what the new Acura will look like and will there be a CL coupe....
Some people have photochopped their speculation such as:
![](http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v316/xpditor/2doorTL-1.jpg)
Well, the new generation Honda Accord Coupe was shown last week at the Detroit Auto Show. Often, the Accord will preceed the Acura and give some hints as to what the Acura will look like since they have been sharing the same platform.
Let's hope that something like this comes out with a V8 and SH-AWD:
![](http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v316/xpditor/2008AcordCoupe.jpg)
Some people have photochopped their speculation such as:
![](http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v316/xpditor/2doorTL-1.jpg)
Well, the new generation Honda Accord Coupe was shown last week at the Detroit Auto Show. Often, the Accord will preceed the Acura and give some hints as to what the Acura will look like since they have been sharing the same platform.
Let's hope that something like this comes out with a V8 and SH-AWD:
![](http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v316/xpditor/2008AcordCoupe.jpg)
who ever did that TL coupe will for sure get a job a the acura company....lol
#1282
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Originally Posted by erdoc48
I was just looking at the pics of the 'Spied 2009 TL' which is the one under the covers. If you look closely, it will have a similar grille to the 09 RL, so I hope Acura doesn't ugly it up too much:
http://www.caranddriver.com/reviews/...ew-photos.html
The back of the car resembles a G35 sedan.
http://www.caranddriver.com/reviews/...ew-photos.html
The back of the car resembles a G35 sedan.
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Some ppl think the TL with the disguise looks better that the RL without.
#1283
Originally Posted by Xpditor
Maybe the "covers" or camouflage will be an option. You know: like the oogly girl friend that was a two-bagger. ![rofl](https://acurazine.com/forums/images/smilies/rofl.gif)
Some ppl think the TL with the disguise looks better that the RL without.
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Some ppl think the TL with the disguise looks better that the RL without.
#1284
Originally Posted by krio
The TL 2009 will be like the CTS 2008 for Cadillac, or the new Ford Mondeo, or the Jaguar XF. A new step for Acura brend.
#1285
Bears Rule!(Well, kinda')
Guys, as of about 6-8 months ago they were battling to get better times with a version of the Type-S engine in the new "standard" car attached to the SH-AWD platform. (Again, I don't know if FWD will be offered as well, I'm just aware of the testing of the SH-AWD.) At the time, they were having troubles making enough of a jump from this gen to the new gen.
Now......I dunno. Got no news on that front. Just thought I'd pipe up once again to be ridiculed by the masses....
Now......I dunno. Got no news on that front. Just thought I'd pipe up once again to be ridiculed by the masses....
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Originally Posted by puma0504
But BOTTOM LINE is, the 09 TL will be the car that either saves Acura from extinction or the FINAL nail in the head. ![2 Cents](https://acurazine.com/forums/images/smilies/2cents.gif)
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I was just looking (yet again) at the G35 and having owned a 2005 TL and a 2003 G35 ... I'd say Acura is due its turn to leapfrog
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Looking forward to the release ... I have the TL in my next car to lease short list for sure. Maybe Acura will get scared based on RL/TSX reaction and break normal protocol and leak some TL info
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P.S. It won't hurt for the TL to sport an above Acura-average outer skin like the current gen did when it came out !
#1287
CNET Car Tech Blog.....(2009 TL mentioned)
".....your correspondent found himself in a car with Dan Bonawitz, vice president of corporate planning and logistics at American Honda. Bonawitz had some interesting things to say about some of the technologies on forthcoming Acura and Honda vehicles (aside from the top-secret 2009 TSX in which we were driving).
Firstly, he mentioned that Acura's Collision Mitigation Braking System (CMBS), currently exclusive to the flagship RL sedan, would likely make its way to other models in the the U.S. lineup in the future. While we're not expecting to see the radar-based system in the redesigned TL sedan, due to be unveiled later this year, we wouldn't be surprised to see it on future iterations of the MDX or RDX SUVs. The second tech-related tidbit was that Honda is not intending to bring the Internavi Premium Club to the United States. Internavi is a subscription-based service currently available in Japan that provides weather and user-submitted geotags on points of interest to drivers via an internet connection. Instead, Bonawitz said that Acura vehicles in the United States would continue to use the AcuraLink architecture to stream data such as traffic and weather to their GPS navigation systems."
Firstly, he mentioned that Acura's Collision Mitigation Braking System (CMBS), currently exclusive to the flagship RL sedan, would likely make its way to other models in the the U.S. lineup in the future. While we're not expecting to see the radar-based system in the redesigned TL sedan, due to be unveiled later this year, we wouldn't be surprised to see it on future iterations of the MDX or RDX SUVs. The second tech-related tidbit was that Honda is not intending to bring the Internavi Premium Club to the United States. Internavi is a subscription-based service currently available in Japan that provides weather and user-submitted geotags on points of interest to drivers via an internet connection. Instead, Bonawitz said that Acura vehicles in the United States would continue to use the AcuraLink architecture to stream data such as traffic and weather to their GPS navigation systems."
#1288
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Truthfully Acura needs to worry more about the driving characteristics and exterior aesthetics on their vehicles more than their techno-prowess, especially in the highly competitive segment the TL will be in.
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All-New 2009 TSX to Debut at New York International Auto Show
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Acura unveiled the new 2009 RL at the Chicago Auto Show last week and also announced the company will introduce an-all new TL performance luxury sedan later this year.
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The 2009 Acura TSX will be introduced during the New York International Auto Show media days which occur on March 19th and 20th.
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Acura unveiled the new 2009 RL at the Chicago Auto Show last week and also announced the company will introduce an-all new TL performance luxury sedan later this year.
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The 2009 Acura TSX will be introduced during the New York International Auto Show media days which occur on March 19th and 20th.
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http://www.hondanews.com/categories/793/releases/4417
#1290
Originally Posted by Bearcat94
We know about the TSX, but the way this reads it doesn't sound like the TL/TL Concept will be in NY next month. That sucks.
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http://www.hondanews.com/categories/793/releases/4417
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http://www.hondanews.com/categories/793/releases/4417
Going by what my dealer told me, they were going to be traveling to the NY show because the TL was going to be there.
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Its less than a month away, although I have high hopes they do release it... we'd have a better picture of what it would look like if they were really going to release it
I think if they do release anything "tl"... it will be a concept they dumped in the trailer last minute
I think if they do release anything "tl"... it will be a concept they dumped in the trailer last minute
#1294
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Originally Posted by stillhere153
Its less than a month away, although I have high hopes they do release it... we'd have a better picture of what it would look like if they were really going to release it
I think if they do release anything "tl"... it will be a concept they dumped in the trailer last minute
I think if they do release anything "tl"... it will be a concept they dumped in the trailer last minute
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#1295
Originally Posted by SpicyMikey
Exactly, and why would they want to do that. It would just take away attention from the TSX debut. Just not gonna happen. Maybe that's good. They have time to rethink "that grill"
before showing us the TL
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And the front grill IS the grill of the TL. It derived from the TL 2009 and put (who knows why) on the RL 2009. If you look at the spy shot of the TL summer 2007 you can see that grill already fixed on...
#1296
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Yep, I remember the taped up grill. Now we know what's underneath it. I was just being funny when I said they had time to rethink it. I agree. This grill is here to stay (for at least a couple years)
#1297
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I don't know if anybody realizes, but the new grill that's on the RL and TSX is the same grill from the Sports 4 Concept from a couple years ago. Nobody said the grill was ugly back then so why complain now? In fact, everybody loved the car and was hoping that it was the 4G TL. We all know Acura monitors this site, and I guess they took the feedback from our comments and decided that the Sports 4 grill was going to be the new standard Acura grill. If we said the grill was ugly back then, I don't think we would be dealing with this now. This is an excellent case of be careful of what you ask for, or really, what you DON'T ask for!
P.S. It looks fine on the TSX, but it doesn't look good on the RL at all
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P.S. It looks fine on the TSX, but it doesn't look good on the RL at all
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Originally Posted by Ac Man
In fact, everybody loved the car and was hoping that it was the 4G TL.
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^ Accord already has an ugly face.
After seeing the new Accord, RL, TSX, i've given up on the TL. Why would Acura bother uglifying only 70% of their lineup, rahter than just screw up their entire line (not to say thats a good thing). I'm moving on. My goal car is an S5. that is pure sex.
After seeing the new Accord, RL, TSX, i've given up on the TL. Why would Acura bother uglifying only 70% of their lineup, rahter than just screw up their entire line (not to say thats a good thing). I'm moving on. My goal car is an S5. that is pure sex.
#1303
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Originally Posted by Ac Man
I don't know if anybody realizes, but the new grill that's on the RL and TSX is the same grill from the Sports 4 Concept from a couple years ago. Nobody said the grill was ugly back then so why complain now? In fact, everybody loved the car and was hoping that it was the 4G TL. We all know Acura monitors this site, and I guess they took the feedback from our comments and decided that the Sports 4 grill was going to be the new standard Acura grill. If we said the grill was ugly back then, I don't think we would be dealing with this now. This is an excellent case of be careful of what you ask for, or really, what you DON'T ask for!
P.S. It looks fine on the TSX, but it doesn't look good on the RL at all
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P.S. It looks fine on the TSX, but it doesn't look good on the RL at all
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As disappointed everyone is that the TSX is not the Sports 4 Concept, it appears that the TL will be fairly close to it.
#1304
Originally Posted by Fyre Man
^ Accord already has an ugly face.
After seeing the new Accord, RL, TSX, i've given up on the TL. Why would Acura bother uglifying only 70% of their lineup, rahter than just screw up their entire line (not to say thats a good thing). I'm moving on. My goal car is an S5. that is pure sex.
After seeing the new Accord, RL, TSX, i've given up on the TL. Why would Acura bother uglifying only 70% of their lineup, rahter than just screw up their entire line (not to say thats a good thing). I'm moving on. My goal car is an S5. that is pure sex.
#1307
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So based on the new RL and TSX funky grill, the TL will most likely have it to, hmm. This will take some time to get use to. The new design of the RL is blah
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Originally Posted by krio
yes, the S5 is great... but is a coupe', not a sedan... at the moment Acura has not a coupe', after the dead RSX.
yeah, i know, but it's still utterly amazing, and the 09 A4 will be similar, just with 4 doors.
I think if Acura brought back the CL for '09 (which I highly doubt), it would do well to compete with the A5, 328i and the 335i coupes, and the G37. Give it plenty of space, SH-AWD, not too heavy, sexy shape, and you have a winner, regardless of the price.
This reminds me of last weekend, while I was at the Acura booth at the CIAS, and this guy was talking to an Acura rep, saying "please bring back the CL yadayada" and then he's like "I still have an '05 CL, RWD, and a beautiful sounding turbo five, but i need something new yada yada" I was like
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#1309
2009tl = Sports 4
I think the Next TL will have to look like the Sports 4 becuase the Acura RL and TSX stayed very close to its roots. If the next TL looks like the Sports with with SH-AWD and twin turbo V6 ( likey the Type S) then they are going to sell.
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Now Acura REALLY better not F up the 4G. The competition has seriously stepped up their offering with a mid-model refresh.
https://acurazine.com/forums/showthread.php?t=385605
https://acurazine.com/forums/showthread.php?t=385605
#1311
^Yup...The competition is really getting up there....Acura can't afford to drop the ball
When the 3G first came out, I believe its biggest fear was the german sedans, as it was as good as the G35 sedan and better than the IS300 at the time. Now Lexus and Infiniti both stepped up their game BIG TIME, and with the new introduction of the G37 sedan with the new 7speed auto....
When the 3G first came out, I believe its biggest fear was the german sedans, as it was as good as the G35 sedan and better than the IS300 at the time. Now Lexus and Infiniti both stepped up their game BIG TIME, and with the new introduction of the G37 sedan with the new 7speed auto....
#1313
Originally Posted by dragonlord
I hope that ACURA comes to the dance fully outfitted, not upgraded in 2010.
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Meh....still doesn't do anything for me.
While the technical highlights are intriguing, the styling of that G37 doesn't excite me. Mind you, the new RL is just as bland IMO and the new TSX just looks "OK" nothing too revolutionary....I'm anxious/hesitant for the 4G TL.
While the technical highlights are intriguing, the styling of that G37 doesn't excite me. Mind you, the new RL is just as bland IMO and the new TSX just looks "OK" nothing too revolutionary....I'm anxious/hesitant for the 4G TL.
#1317
Burning Brakes
Originally Posted by vinnier6
i like how the press release said a more powerful tsx, but then says 201hp...when the previous one has 205hp...how is that more powerful...that car needs to be about 240hp...for gods sakes, the altima can put that car to shame...
I know what you mean though
#1319
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Ok fellas, here is some interesting tidbit from a letter I got today. I'll type most of it out for you guys. Take it for what it's worth.... but I think something is brewing really soon. It's from Synovate Motoresearch, 7676 Hazard Center Dr., #1300 San Diego, Ca. 92108
Dear blah blah,
Automotive manufacturers are constantly changing and improving their products. One tool they use to help in their development is consumer research. Our research company has been commissioned by a major manufacturer to conduct an Automotive Evaluation among a select group of owners such as yourself.
If you still own and drive a 2007 Acura TL, this is an exciting and rare opportunity to see new and future vehicles. This is strictly a market research study where we rely on you to help guide the development of the vehicles of tomorrow.
We are inviting a select group of vehicle owners in the San Mateo area to evaluate newly designed vehicles between March 12th and 19th, 2008.
This study will take approximately 2.5 hours, and you will receive $125 in appreciation for your help.
Absolutely no attempt will be made to sell or promote a product at this event or future event................................blah blah blah..........
The rest of the letter is not important. It's just a bunch of contact info etc etc.
I don't know if I could make it to this "event" due to work though.
Dear blah blah,
Automotive manufacturers are constantly changing and improving their products. One tool they use to help in their development is consumer research. Our research company has been commissioned by a major manufacturer to conduct an Automotive Evaluation among a select group of owners such as yourself.
If you still own and drive a 2007 Acura TL, this is an exciting and rare opportunity to see new and future vehicles. This is strictly a market research study where we rely on you to help guide the development of the vehicles of tomorrow.
We are inviting a select group of vehicle owners in the San Mateo area to evaluate newly designed vehicles between March 12th and 19th, 2008.
This study will take approximately 2.5 hours, and you will receive $125 in appreciation for your help.
Absolutely no attempt will be made to sell or promote a product at this event or future event................................blah blah blah..........
The rest of the letter is not important. It's just a bunch of contact info etc etc.
I don't know if I could make it to this "event" due to work though.