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Originally Posted by L's TL
lexus has some strong HP numbers though and alot of nice goodies...the new IS-F is pretty damn nice
It's a IS350 with more power, and a few add-ons... so why almost double the price?!?!?!
For the same money, the new M3 sedan, or better yet, the new GTR are MUCH better cars!
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Here's a poor photoshop of the grille in body color. I think this is a quick change they could make without delaying production that would at least help, because it takes much of the emphasis away from this huge thing. Maybe adding some thin silver trim in strategic locations around the edges would be nice too.
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#1124
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Originally Posted by Converted
I love my TL... but I'm not 100% content.
I really really really despise the front-wheel drive. I came from a 420HP STI, so it's a bit of a change, but I really liked the car the first year or so. Now, the FWD is getting to me a lot, ESPECIALLY in anything but dry roads. In the rain, forget it.
I have been eyeing the 2008 STI, because of the speed, new added features, and AWD... but it lacks the overall refinement obviously, that the Acura has.
I really really really despise the front-wheel drive. I came from a 420HP STI, so it's a bit of a change, but I really liked the car the first year or so. Now, the FWD is getting to me a lot, ESPECIALLY in anything but dry roads. In the rain, forget it.
I have been eyeing the 2008 STI, because of the speed, new added features, and AWD... but it lacks the overall refinement obviously, that the Acura has.
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Originally Posted by L's TL
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Originally Posted by Converted
For the price, which is in the high 60K range.... the IS-F is a joke.
It's a IS350 with more power, and a few add-ons... so why almost double the price?!?!?!
For the same money, the new M3 sedan, or better yet, the new GTR are MUCH better cars!
It's a IS350 with more power, and a few add-ons... so why almost double the price?!?!?!
For the same money, the new M3 sedan, or better yet, the new GTR are MUCH better cars!
dont get me started on the GTR...my brother is gettin one this May and i will definitely be driving that as much as possible!
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Originally Posted by L's TL
dont get me started on the GTR...my brother is gettin one this May and i will definitely be driving that as much as possible!
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Originally Posted by L's TL
dont get me started on the GTR...my brother is gettin one this May and i will definitely be driving that as much as possible!
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Originally Posted by LyfeIs
I just cant see myself spending $70k on a nissan. M3 on the otherhand... ![Thumbs Up](https://acurazine.com/forums/images/smilies/thumbsup.gif)
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0-60 in 3.3 seconds?!?!? 11.6 quarter mile stock???
I want one... BAD.
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Ok, we've now seen the grills for the new RL and TSX, and it looks like the TL's will be the same. I think if they went with the MDX grill it would have been an improvement. At least that grill could be modded to look better. The RL/TSX/TL grill with that high, thick cross-bar is just hiddeous beyond repair.
I'm sure the Acura designers could have went many directions with their grill design. They went for the gamble, and its going to flop. It's a total deal-breaker for me. Hopefully there is still time for them to change the TL.
I'm sure the Acura designers could have went many directions with their grill design. They went for the gamble, and its going to flop. It's a total deal-breaker for me. Hopefully there is still time for them to change the TL.
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Originally Posted by L's TL
its well worth the price just for the technology it has...3 diff suspension, transmission, and engine settings??? thats crazy and its still luxury like on the inside
The only times that have been faster at "the ring" in Germany, are exotic supercars...
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Originally Posted by TL-773
Ok, we've now seen the grills for the new RL and TSX, and it looks like the TL's will be the same. I think if they went with the MDX grill it would have been an improvement. At least that grill could be modded to look better. The RL/TSX/TL grill with that high, thick cross-bar is just hiddeous beyond repair.
I'm sure the Acura designers could have went many directions with their grill design. They went for the gamble, and its going to flop. It's a total deal-breaker for me. Hopefully there is still time for them to change the TL.
I'm sure the Acura designers could have went many directions with their grill design. They went for the gamble, and its going to flop. It's a total deal-breaker for me. Hopefully there is still time for them to change the TL.
agree...i just hope they will get enough negative feedback to come out with somethin better...i dont mind the grill on the TSX it actually looks pretty nice but the RL was just hacked with a knife like a bad nose job
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Originally Posted by redman042
Here's a poor photoshop of the grille in body color. I think this is a quick change they could make without delaying production that would at least help, because it takes much of the emphasis away from this huge thing. Maybe adding some thin silver trim in strategic locations around the edges would be nice too.
![](http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2239/2250275117_1bd3b82c28_o.jpg)
![](http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2239/2250275117_1bd3b82c28_o.jpg)
hmm, that helps a bit
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I was hoping that ugly shield would stay on the MDX, however, after seeing pictures of the new RL, and '09 TSX, I'm glad I got a 3rd gen. What's going on at Acura?
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Obviously some of you aren't reading all of the posts...when the 2G came out, it had more HP than the RL at the time. Therefore, it's possible for the 4G to have more HP than the RL this time.
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What do you think about this?...It looks like the tsx grille is goign to stay the same color as the body paint. Any chance the tl is goign to end up this way? I kind of think i like this better than the chrome yelling at us. What do yall think?
#1141
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OK, I got up this morning thinkin I'll give the new RL a second look. I'll have an open mind and see if the new design has grown on me.
NOPE!!!
It's still ugly. It was ugly yesterday, it's ugly today.
Please Acura, for the love of GOD!!!!!!!!!!, don't do this to the TL. I beg you.
NOPE!!!
It's still ugly. It was ugly yesterday, it's ugly today.
Please Acura, for the love of GOD!!!!!!!!!!, don't do this to the TL. I beg you.
#1142
Honestly, I think it's an improvement for the RL although it has lost some of the luxury aspect.
The TL always looked much better than the RL, hopefully it will be the same with the 09.
The TL always looked much better than the RL, hopefully it will be the same with the 09.
#1144
Originally Posted by voigt
When i first saw the new RL the name Pontiac Aztec came to mind. Now Acura will be the laughing stock.
#1146
Half of you just like to jump on the bandwagon. Comparing an Acura RL to an Aztec? WTF are ya'll smoking? The car is a refresh not a new platform.....it's a little more than a major refresh because of slow sales. But this car looks nothing like an Aztec or whatever lame vehicles some of you are comparing it to.
One guy says it looks like crap.....everyone chimes in saying the same shit.
Personally i think it looks nice....would i buy one? Probably not. Im more of a performance or sport oriented driver but to each their own. BMW owners did the same shit with the new Chris Bangle design direction.....but they still went out and bought it......they didnt jump ship to merc or lexus.
For those of u who seem offended by the new design direction.....go get a Genesis or some BMW!
Now that i spoke my mind................ How bout them Giants?!!!
One guy says it looks like crap.....everyone chimes in saying the same shit.
Personally i think it looks nice....would i buy one? Probably not. Im more of a performance or sport oriented driver but to each their own. BMW owners did the same shit with the new Chris Bangle design direction.....but they still went out and bought it......they didnt jump ship to merc or lexus.
For those of u who seem offended by the new design direction.....go get a Genesis or some BMW!
Now that i spoke my mind................ How bout them Giants?!!!
#1147
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Originally Posted by 6SpdTerror
Half of you just like to jump on the bandwagon. Comparing an Acura RL to an Aztec? WTF are ya'll smoking? The car is a refresh not a new platform.....it's a little more than a major refresh because of slow sales. But this car looks nothing like an Aztec or whatever lame vehicles some of you are comparing it to.
One guy says it looks like crap.....everyone chimes in saying the same shit.
Personally i think it looks nice....would i buy one? Probably not. Im more of a performance or sport oriented driver but to each their own. BMW owners did the same shit with the new Chris Bangle design direction.....but they still went out and bought it......they didnt jump ship to merc or lexus.
For those of u who seem offended by the new design direction.....go get a Genesis or some BMW!
Now that i spoke my mind................ How bout them Giants?!!!
One guy says it looks like crap.....everyone chimes in saying the same shit.
Personally i think it looks nice....would i buy one? Probably not. Im more of a performance or sport oriented driver but to each their own. BMW owners did the same shit with the new Chris Bangle design direction.....but they still went out and bought it......they didnt jump ship to merc or lexus.
For those of u who seem offended by the new design direction.....go get a Genesis or some BMW!
Now that i spoke my mind................ How bout them Giants?!!!
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#1148
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Don't make me stop this car!
Originally Posted by darksom1
I still say the design leaves something to be desired, and the grille is ugly as fuck! If the TL had a grille like that, but I liked the rest, then I would just mod it like I did the one I have now, so no prob there playboy!
As for the Giants
...my 'SKINS whipped their Super Bowl weak ass the last time we played them - IN NY
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I suggest you listen.
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I swear, if Acura shows one more car with that fugly grille, I give up.
there's already a very small chance that the TL will be different from the rest of the line and actually look good.
3g owners, hang on to your TLs, because their value will soon shoot up.
there's already a very small chance that the TL will be different from the rest of the line and actually look good.
3g owners, hang on to your TLs, because their value will soon shoot up.
#1150
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To keep in line with what I've said before regarding the new TL -
Over 300 hp
SH-AWD
Greatly improved interior (and I really like the current one)
Front end pics I saw are not as bad as the RL, so don't sweat it
Rear end will have some scratching their heads, IMHO
I know nothing of whether or not it will be offered as FWD and/SH-AWD, I just know of the SH-AWD being offered to clarify.
In regards to the semi-off topic stuff, I'm on board with the RL looking amazingly ugly from the pics. I go to the Chicago Auto show tomorrow to see the monster in person.
Over 300 hp
SH-AWD
Greatly improved interior (and I really like the current one)
Front end pics I saw are not as bad as the RL, so don't sweat it
Rear end will have some scratching their heads, IMHO
I know nothing of whether or not it will be offered as FWD and/SH-AWD, I just know of the SH-AWD being offered to clarify.
In regards to the semi-off topic stuff, I'm on board with the RL looking amazingly ugly from the pics. I go to the Chicago Auto show tomorrow to see the monster in person.
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from that view, it doesnt look that bad. ^ reminds me of a 2g TL.
I think its mainly the grille, with the headlights coming in a close second, that screws the whole thing up.
I think its mainly the grille, with the headlights coming in a close second, that screws the whole thing up.
#1153
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I am going to see it tomorrow. But form the photos it looks like an accord. The build quality and materials just seem cheap. I think Acura really screwed up with this car. However the press release of the accord was the white one which didn't look that nice. In real life they do look alright. Hopefully I change my mind seeing the RL in person but until then I am on the "bandwagon" of those who think this is one ugly car.
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Originally Posted by Mindworm
To keep in line with what I've said before regarding the new TL -
Over 300 hp
SH-AWD
Greatly improved interior (and I really like the current one)
Front end pics I saw are not as bad as the RL, so don't sweat it
Rear end will have some scratching their heads, IMHO
I know nothing of whether or not it will be offered as FWD and/SH-AWD, I just know of the SH-AWD being offered to clarify.
In regards to the semi-off topic stuff, I'm on board with the RL looking amazingly ugly from the pics. I go to the Chicago Auto show tomorrow to see the monster in person.
Over 300 hp
SH-AWD
Greatly improved interior (and I really like the current one)
Front end pics I saw are not as bad as the RL, so don't sweat it
Rear end will have some scratching their heads, IMHO
I know nothing of whether or not it will be offered as FWD and/SH-AWD, I just know of the SH-AWD being offered to clarify.
In regards to the semi-off topic stuff, I'm on board with the RL looking amazingly ugly from the pics. I go to the Chicago Auto show tomorrow to see the monster in person.
Take many pictures then post them here!!
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#1156
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Vetalik - no can do on the pics. My person would lose their job if it was known, simple as that. I saw them a while back by luck more than anything else, and they were still f-ing around with the engine to make sure the SH-AWD was going to be strong enough to spec out well against the comp. At the time, it did not. We'll see......
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Originally Posted by 6SpdTerror
I cant wait till the NY auto show comes around so i can see for myself. Hopefully the TL is debuted here.
I still dont get how u guys think this is ugly
![](http://www.world.honda.com/news/2008/c0802062009Acura-RL-Debuts/photo/images/15.jpg)
I still dont get how u guys think this is ugly
![](http://www.world.honda.com/news/2008/c0802062009Acura-RL-Debuts/photo/images/15.jpg)
I don't think that it's ugly as much as it just looks like a slightly bigger Accord. I think that the current TL looks better....doesn't bode well for the 4G TL design....hopefully I'm wrong.
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Originally Posted by JJaber06
^^ I doubt it, because the interior of the RL remained the same, and the picture above has an all new interior