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Old 02-25-2008, 09:28 PM
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Make it and tell them we will exchange more CO 2 for More HP/Torque, SH, six sp A/t and throw in a coupe while bargining....
Old 02-25-2008, 10:10 PM
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NYC autoshow FTMFW !! i'll be there checking the new TL in like 3 weeks
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Old 02-26-2008, 10:19 AM
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The TL is going to be smoking HOT , the TSX was an MMC in my eyes and most of the other Acura Fans. The RL is a MMC as well. The only all new Acura was the MDX which is really nice looking compaired to X5 , RX etc. The TL will be all new.... that is the reason you are not seeing any spy photos. I think the last set of so called TL spy photos were of the RL not the TL or TXS.
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Originally Posted by Silver_Surfer
Ok fellas, here is some interesting tidbit from a letter I got today. I'll type most of it out for you guys. Take it for what it's worth.... but I think something is brewing really soon. It's from Synovate Motoresearch, 7676 Hazard Center Dr., #1300 San Diego, Ca. 92108


Dear blah blah,

Automotive manufacturers are constantly changing and improving their products. One tool they use to help in their development is consumer research. Our research company has been commissioned by a major manufacturer to conduct an Automotive Evaluation among a select group of owners such as yourself.

If you still own and drive a 2007 Acura TL, this is an exciting and rare opportunity to see new and future vehicles. This is strictly a market research study where we rely on you to help guide the development of the vehicles of tomorrow.

We are inviting a select group of vehicle owners in the San Mateo area to evaluate newly designed vehicles between March 12th and 19th, 2008.

This study will take approximately 2.5 hours, and you will receive $125 in appreciation for your help.

Absolutely no attempt will be made to sell or promote a product at this event or future event................................
blah blah blah..........

The rest of the letter is not important. It's just a bunch of contact info etc etc.
I don't know if I could make it to this "event" due to work though.
I got selected for one of those but opened my big mouth and told them i worked for a dealership and they disqualified me!
If your job has anything to do with the auto industry.....lie to them!
Old 02-26-2008, 02:57 PM
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probably a stupid question...but why would they care if you worked for Acura?
Old 02-26-2008, 03:03 PM
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Originally Posted by Fyre Man
probably a stupid question...but why would they care if you worked for Acura?
Bias.
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Bias.

100% right. They want an unbiased opinion from people who have no vested interests in any of the cars tested. Im of course partial to acura/honda being that i own them and i work for them.
Old 02-26-2008, 03:09 PM
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Yep, was kind of a stupid question but appreciate the answers.

Wouldn't they be seeking non-Acura owners to try and gather some info on what they would like to see that would attract them to the brand?
Old 02-26-2008, 03:16 PM
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Originally Posted by Silver_Surfer
Ok fellas, here is some interesting tidbit from a letter I got today. I'll type most of it out for you guys. Take it for what it's worth.... but I think something is brewing really soon. It's from Synovate Motoresearch, 7676 Hazard Center Dr., #1300 San Diego, Ca. 92108


Dear blah blah,

Automotive manufacturers are constantly changing and improving their products. One tool they use to help in their development is consumer research. Our research company has been commissioned by a major manufacturer to conduct an Automotive Evaluation among a select group of owners such as yourself.

If you still own and drive a 2007 Acura TL, this is an exciting and rare opportunity to see new and future vehicles. This is strictly a market research study where we rely on you to help guide the development of the vehicles of tomorrow.

We are inviting a select group of vehicle owners in the San Mateo area to evaluate newly designed vehicles between March 12th and 19th, 2008.

This study will take approximately 2.5 hours, and you will receive $125 in appreciation for your help.

Absolutely no attempt will be made to sell or promote a product at this event or future event................................
blah blah blah..........

The rest of the letter is not important. It's just a bunch of contact info etc etc.
I don't know if I could make it to this "event" due to work though.
Screw work. When was the last time you made that much money in that little time?
Old 02-26-2008, 03:30 PM
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Originally Posted by Fyre Man
Screw work. When was the last time you made that much money in that little time?
Could only be said by a 15 Y/O

Boy, are you in for a few surprises.
Just for giggles, there is some interesting read in other threads such as "how can you afford the TL?", and "what are your occupations?"
Old 02-26-2008, 03:40 PM
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Originally Posted by Fyre Man
Screw work. When was the last time you made that much money in that little time?

Hmmm? Depends if the $125 is grossed up or not.
Old 02-26-2008, 03:41 PM
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Originally Posted by S PAW 1
Could only be said by a 15 Y/O

Boy, are you in for a few surprises.
Just for giggles, there is some interesting read in other threads such as "how can you afford the TL?", and "what are your occupations?"

lol
Old 02-26-2008, 03:53 PM
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haha, definitely made me laugh But then again, at 15, I had to shovel a lot of snow to earn $125 in 2 hours
Old 02-26-2008, 04:14 PM
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Originally Posted by WDP-Acura TL
Well the statement is true. It's 4 horses more powerful.

I know what you mean though
its actually the other way around...its 4 hores less powerful...thats what i dont get...they say its more powerful but has less hp....
Old 02-26-2008, 05:29 PM
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I'm looking forward to see the photo that you can take for us.
Hopefully Acura wouldn't disappoint me with the TL..otherwise I will go for Audi
My opinion for new TL:
We need more technology like the "cool seat", "push start button" and SH-AWD...etc
We are all excited to see how "aggressive" it will be..do NOT give us a look like Maxiuma/RL
However, do NOT boost up the price over 40k for a fully loaded TL...cuz not many ppl can keep up
If Acura scuessfully achieve these goal...they will rock and roll for at least 2 years
Old 02-28-2008, 07:45 AM
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Looks like Infiniti just announced a 306hp G37 sedan with a 7 speed AT transmission for the European market. More than likely, that configuration will end up in North America in 2009. My only real problem with the G was gas mileage, hopefully that 7 speed AT transmission helps that.

My point..........The pressure is on Acura right now, they better come through with something AWESOME. If that 7 speed AT tranny goes in that G, I'm jumping ship. I'm disgusted with the looks of new RL and the new TSX aint getting me hard either. Sorry Acura.
Old 02-28-2008, 07:51 AM
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Ironic thing is that gas will probably be $4 a gallon this summer and who knows where it will go from there. What's with this HP trend lately? I wonder if all this will really come about
Old 02-28-2008, 09:00 AM
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Ironic thing is that gas will probably be $4 a gallon this summer and who knows where it will go from there. What's with this HP trend lately? I wonder if all this will really come about
Seriously...its like 3.59 here in the middle of fuckin winter
Old 02-28-2008, 09:20 AM
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Seriously...its like 3.59 here in the middle of fuckin winter
The funniest story yet is the latest rumors about a 400hp v8 in the 2010 RL.

I guess it's possible if they do a complete corporate 180 in philosopy but highly unlikely. Honda loves their CAFE rating and genuinely seems focused on being the most fuel efficient car manufacturer in the world. Thus the constant tug of war with the car enthusiast crowd.
Old 02-28-2008, 09:51 AM
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Originally Posted by JJaber06
Seriously...its like 3.59 here in the middle of fuckin winter

where in the hell do you live in MD???????????...im payin 3.29 for 93octane!
Old 02-28-2008, 03:52 PM
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Originally Posted by L's TL
where in the hell do you live in MD???????????...im payin 3.29 for 93octane!
Rockville mannn =/
Old 02-28-2008, 05:50 PM
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Originally Posted by L's TL
where in the hell do you live in MD???????????...im payin 3.29 for 93octane!
You must go to the mom and pop shops because 93 octane costs $3.29 in San Antonio TX which is consistently cheaper than the east coast.
Old 02-28-2008, 07:29 PM
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For the umpteenth time: Stay on Topic.

And clean up the language. This isn't Ramblings.
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OH...MY...GARSH...WHERE THE HE** IS IT??!?!?!?!????!!?!?!?! Hope the front end doesn't look like the "new" RL and TSX...icky...
Old 02-29-2008, 08:18 PM
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Originally Posted by erick3
OH...MY...GARSH...WHERE THE HE** IS IT??!?!?!?!????!!?!?!?! Hope the front end doesn't look like the "new" RL and TSX...icky...
Now, that's a good boy.
Old 02-29-2008, 08:44 PM
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I'd fix the turning radius. Why is the turning radius on a TL so large?
Old 02-29-2008, 08:44 PM
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hopefully, we will find out at the NY auto show.
Old 02-29-2008, 09:25 PM
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Originally Posted by erick3
Hope the front end doesn't look like the "new" RL and TSX...icky...
Icky indeed.

If the new TL is going on sale this year they sure are keeping it a secret. The new grill look on the tsx and rl = epic fail. Please let the TL not have that butt ugly grill!
Old 03-01-2008, 09:31 AM
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Originally Posted by TLingham
I'd fix the turning radius. Why is the turning radius on a TL so large?
Amen to that! I thought i was the only one that hated that. Broken u turns galore!
Old 03-01-2008, 10:04 AM
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new colors

With the 07' they came out with some really neat colors like the Kinetic Blue and the Carbon Bronze. Sometimes a really kick b*tt color helps sell the car better. I would like to see really dark grey like "midnight grey".

About the turning diameter, I never actually looked up the specs to compare the two but I had the 03Type S and now I have the 07Type S and let me tell you, although there is obvious room for improvement, there was nothing worse than not being able to make a complete U-Turn with on coming traffic in the 03. That car was pathetic.
Old 03-08-2008, 09:04 PM
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I wish the new TL was offered in AWD and RWD with a choice of manual or auto.

The way I look at it is they better offer at least 300hp, a manual, and if RWD isn't offered the AWD better not be a fat pig. 0-60 in 5.5 or less or Good bye Acura.
Old 03-09-2008, 11:53 AM
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Originally Posted by JD TL-S
I wish the new TL was offered in AWD and RWD with a choice of manual or auto.

The way I look at it is they better offer at least 300hp, a manual, and if RWD isn't offered the AWD better not be a fat pig. 0-60 in 5.5 or less or Good bye Acura.
Lexus IS350 or BMW 335i. I doubt Acura will offer a RWD option. I imagine we will see AWD but those aren't typically pure performance.
Old 03-09-2008, 12:10 PM
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the covered up 2009 TL looks like a nissan maxima but with the 2009 TSX front grill.
Old 03-09-2008, 12:24 PM
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Lexus IS350 or BMW 335i. I doubt Acura will offer a RWD option. I imagine we will see AWD but those aren't typically pure performance.
If they are going to bump the performance at all they almost have to move to a different drive train. the TQ numbers for current Type S is about the limit FWD can really handle.

The next TL is probably going to be a mostly cosmetic redesign or I expect we'll see something pretty drastically different from previous TL's. Should be very interesting.
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How does a gigantic corporation like Honda manage to keep the TL out of the public eye so well? I am having a hard time believing that they can keep all but the heavily camouflaged new TL's so well hidden.
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i know im waitin for that first ahot of the tl already, i cant believe how they can so easily hide this from us....i think we should of done a 'gorup buy' and hired some sort of spy or secret agent lol to find out the good word haha!
Old 03-10-2008, 01:12 PM
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I'm going to go out on a limb here and predict that the 4G TL will be evolutionary in style, as opposed to revolutionary.
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Originally Posted by FADE
Icky indeed.

If the new TL is going on sale this year they sure are keeping it a secret. The new grill look on the tsx and rl = epic fail. Please let the TL not have that butt ugly grill!
I can live the the new grill on the TSX because it seems as if it were apart of the design from the get-go.

But on the RL, Acura took the new grill design, enlarged the thing to make it look more "grand" and stuck it on car that was never designed for something that large.

In all fairness it seems that Acura tried to change the front clip to accept the larger, "bolder" grill but failed as the rest of the car does not go with the new front look.

The poor RL needs to be sorted out. Perhaps if the 3.7 had more then 300hp then maybe the horrible look could be ignored to a degree but alas I think the RL will continue on a downward slide.

As for the new TL, well once again the look (IMO) will be a take on the Sports 4 in which said grill looked fine.
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They need to get rid of the TSX and bring back a coupe (RSX) that will rival the G37.
I don't understand what they are doing with the RL, they see that sales are horrible, but they don't create a vehicle that will stand up to the LS or even the M.
They are still going with the "shield" look, but it's a "love it" or "hate it" concept
I'm hoping they are saving all their resources for the TL since that is their "bread winner"
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Originally Posted by Precision Crafted
I can live the the new grill on the TSX because it seems as if it were apart of the design from the get-go.

But on the RL, Acura took the new grill design, enlarged the thing to make it look more "grand" and stuck it on car that was never designed for something that large.

In all fairness it seems that Acura tried to change the front clip to accept the larger, "bolder" grill but failed as the rest of the car does not go with the new front look.

The poor RL needs to be sorted out. Perhaps if the 3.7 had more then 300hp then maybe the horrible look could be ignored to a degree but alas I think the RL will continue on a downward slide.

As for the new TL, well once again the look (IMO) will be a take on the Sports 4 in which said grill looked fine.
Well said . I don't understand why Acura would debut the RL at the Chicago show when it was just a MMC. They have two FMCs coming this year, that's where their focus should be. I know the RL needs some help, so any attention it gets should help somewhat, but why bother? It's a very fine car, don't get me wrong, but Acura made some bad decisions that can't be corrected until the RLs FMC. I too believe that the TL will have a close look to the Sports 4 concept, at leastI hope it does. I'm thinking they might have something up their sleeves as to why they're being so secretive. RWD maybe? I'm not sure, but did Acura announce they were going with AWD before the RL debuted? If not, Acura might be doing the same thing with RWD and the TL, by debuting the new drive train without any announcement.


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