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Old 02-08-2010, 02:47 PM
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^lemme confirm with Rodney... im pretty sure it will
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Originally Posted by Hi speed
Is the general consensus that Innovative mounts are the only way to go?
From my reading of our forum, I believe the general censuses is to get the IM 85A.

The 60A is a joke even for an oem 5AT.

The 75A, which I have, is good (or marginal?) for a modified N/A 5AT.

For any 6MT, boosted 5AT, or better, the 85A would be needed.

This is all my opinion based on what we have seen on our forum to date.

I would *not* recommend anyone that is getting the turbo to wait on getting the mounts. Wheel hop will break an axle very quickly. And, a turbo'ed TL will be very easy to break the tires loose (inducing hop).

If you don't have the IM 85A mounts, it would be wise to have the VSA (traction control) turned on at all times. In all honesty, I believe that our forum should be more opened-minded to the VSA traction control if you are highly modded (275+ whp). I can understand how the oem guys can benefit from wheel spin which allows the engine to get into the powerband. But for the 300+ whp guys, I would think that the traction control would produce better et's.

I had always felt that the traction control helped me. And, it was confirmed, at least in my case, when I made my 0-60 video. Hands-down, I had must better 0-60 with traction control. Without traction control, the 0-60 was just a wheel-spin exhibition run (fun to watch, but terrible et)..
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quess what size this is?

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looks like a size OMG! if i'm not mistaken
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meh... I've seen bigger.















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^ get 2 of them then.
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Originally Posted by Xiomaro
looks like a size OMG! if i'm not mistaken
Its available to the public. Item number is "big as fcuk" turbo
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how much is this kit putting down in total? It was lowered from 9psi to 6psi correct?
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Interested as well. What are the "to the rollers" hp/tq numbers. I would like to see this on a dyno sheet as it correlates to usable power.

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awesome!!!! now i just bought some 19x9.5 work wheels... if i was to install this turbo..would a different wheel tire combo be needed?? I have 235 35 19 falken fr452
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Originally Posted by sick puppy
Interested as well. What are the "to the rollers" hp/tq numbers. I would like to see this on a dyno sheet as it correlates to usable power.

try going back 30 pages and moving fwd pg x pg.
Old 02-08-2010, 10:10 PM
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Originally Posted by sick puppy
Interested as well. What are the "to the rollers" hp/tq numbers. I would like to see this on a dyno sheet as it correlates to usable power.
I posted it early in the thread. 370-400 hp and around the same TQ. All hp numbers are at the wheels, so add 60-80 hp for hp at the crank. The dyno graph looked very nice, big TQ at low rpm.
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Originally Posted by KN_TL
I'm going Innovative 85a.....

I work from home so a sig is no problem.
be carefull with very stiff mounts. i ripped my mount brackets out of my block and stripped it.
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Originally Posted by AckTL05
how much is this kit putting down in total? It was lowered from 9psi to 6psi correct?
uum. two different cars..... Rodney's car went up to 12 psi if im not mistaken.... the type S in the most recent vids hasnt been past 6psi and the numbers were 384hp and 364tq

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Interested as well. What are the "to the rollers" hp/tq numbers. I would like to see this on a dyno sheet as it correlates to usable power.
theres a dyno vid a few pages back


Originally Posted by pearlite TL
awesome!!!! now i just bought some 19x9.5 work wheels... if i was to install this turbo..would a different wheel tire combo be needed?? I have 235 35 19 falken fr452
i have no clue.... one of the wheel experts should be able to answer that for you.. i wouldn't want to miss-inform you

Originally Posted by Hi speed
I posted it early in the thread. 370-400 hp and around the same TQ. All hp numbers are at the wheels, so add 60-80 hp for hp at the crank. The dyno graph looked very nice, big TQ at low rpm.
^what he said
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Phee,

What mounts did you have that ripped out ?
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Originally Posted by Inaccurate
Phee,

What mounts did you have that ripped out ?
x2. this will be very useful to everyone.....
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Originally Posted by phee
be carefull with very stiff mounts. i ripped my mount brackets out of my block and stripped it.
What kind of abuse rips the bolts out of the block? People have been running 75a and 85a here and I would think 95a in racing conditions.

Has anyone heard of this before? This is a first for me.
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Originally Posted by KN_TL
Bert or Hi Speed will probably be before me.

It's 16 deg, snowing and I am still working on getting my garage heated. Also haven't done anything like battery relocate so I am likely to be last. But I will put my progress out there when I do get started.
I haven't done anything either. I'm waiting on word on the mounts. The donuting problem in the Innovative mounts is worrying me a bit even at 75 or 85a is it? What's up with excelerate's mounts?

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I will be for a minute the only west coast turbo 3G , but Madizs another member also ordered the kit. UPS is update crazy, when I make summit orders. 10:01 package on truck, 10:12 package dropped and kicked by courier, 11:04 package has exceeded the posted speed limit for the road on which it is traveling. I can order parts from Summit Racing up to 6 pm and have it by 11 am the next day. I am not sure how they do it.

Is the general consensus that Innovative mounts are the only way to go?
Also I think we need to be home to sign for this bad boy, some may choose the office to avoid conflict with the wife.
Yeah I'll be pretty behind you on my progress, but I'll eventually get there!
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Originally Posted by phee
be carefull with very stiff mounts. i ripped my mount brackets out of my block and stripped it.
yes yes yes... do tell , please!
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Can we just replace the inserts on the motor mounts? Doesn't seem like it from memory, im running 60A in conjunction with the NRG engine damper in the back on the 6spd. Wheel hop is a constant problem regardless of engine movement I think.
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Originally Posted by Accord_V6_400m
Can we just replace the inserts on the motor mounts? ..... Wheel hop is a constant problem regardless of engine movement I think.

I believe that Innovative refuses to sell the inserts separately. But if they did sell them, then yes we could replaced them ourselves. No press is needed.

Just going by stuff I read, if you have firm mounts, the 6MT will *not* hop. If you have IM and you do have hop, then you got donuts and need to replace the mounts.
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Originally Posted by Accord_V6_400m
Can we just replace the inserts on the motor mounts? Doesn't seem like it from memory, im running 60A in conjunction with the NRG engine damper in the back on the 6spd. Wheel hop is a constant problem regardless of engine movement I think.
60a is the stock stiffness and many people here have experienced the bushings doing the donut trick with 60a and I believe 75a.

There is a thread in the CL forums where people are rebuilding the stock mounts with stiffer material. I haven't seen anything with the IM's.

Isn't the ETD a connection between the Engine and the Tranny? Did you notice any difference replacing the stock one with the NRG? I asked the same question yesterday and I haven't seen an answer yet.
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The 6MT Damper mounts on the engine block and the motor mount bracket, which bolts to the front subframe.


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Originally Posted by Inaccurate
The 6MT Damper mounts on the engine block and the motor mount bracket, which bolts to the front subframe.


AH, thank you. To be honest I didn't look at it in real life so thank you for showing me this.

Do you know if an aftermarket ETD would be beneficial over stock?
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The stock on my cl was a pos. I can compress it with my hands and with very little effort. A stiffer etd will help alot
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Originally Posted by Rajca
The stock on my cl was a pos. I can compress it with my hands and with very little effort. A stiffer etd will help alot
I'm looking at the Ingall's site. Do you know if you can remove the adjustable end of the stiffy and replace it with a straight threaded bolt to mate it up with the 3G TL mounts?
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Originally Posted by KN_TL
AH, thank you. To be honest I didn't look at it in real life so thank you for showing me this.

Do you know if an aftermarket ETD would be beneficial over stock?
I felt a significant difference over stock. I was the guinea pig for Excellerates' ETD.

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The stock on my cl was a pos. I can compress it with my hands and with very little effort. A stiffer etd will help alot
Same thing for the 3G, I'm able to press OEM down with little effort. The new one required my full weight (150lbs) to budge ever so slightly if at all, and that's with the 'softer' bushings installed

Josh has my full review, so I'll ask him to post it up when it's ready (hopefully very soon)

Originally Posted by KN_TL
I'm looking at the Ingall's site. Do you know if you can remove the adjustable end of the stiffy and replace it with a straight threaded bolt to mate it up with the 3G TL mounts?
An adapter wouldn't fit, so this wasn't possible.

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Originally Posted by HQTL6SPD
I felt a significant difference over stock. I was the guinea pig for Excellerates' ETD.



Same thing for the 3G, I'm able to press OEM down with little effort. The new one required my full weight (150lbs) to budge ever so slightly if at all, and that's with the 'softer' bushings installed

Josh has my full review, so I'll ask him to post it up when it's ready (hopefully very soon)



An adapter wouldn't fit, so this wasn't possible.
You didn't happen to test out XLR's motor mounts did you?

I sure wish Josh would tell us what these are, why they are better and where the heck they are.
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Originally Posted by Silva-type-s
uum. two different cars..... Rodney's car went up to 12 psi if im not mistaken.... the type S in the most recent vids hasnt been past 6psi and the numbers were 384hp and 364tq
So, uh, what do you think...the S will be able to push ata 12 psi also?[/cheesy Italian accent]
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^i hope so! however that is pretty rough on the engine and drivetrain so i duno if i'd push it that hard. But maybe for a little to see what it can do
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Originally Posted by phee
that A/F looks gorgeous.

xiomaro:exhaust specs plz
Sorry phee, my exhaust setup is staying with me and the 2 or 3 other ppl that knows what it is
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12 psi!? maybe for one run..
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Originally Posted by Majofo
12 psi!? maybe for one run..
how so? we have to test it to see what it can do before we sell it.
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Originally Posted by KN_TL
You didn't happen to test out XLR's motor mounts did you?

I sure wish Josh would tell us what these are, why they are better and where the heck they are.
Nope, not the mounts
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12 psi seems like it's pushing the envelope.. even tested & tuned I'd be very concerned with stock rods & pistons.
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Originally Posted by Majofo
12 psi seems like it's pushing the envelope.. even tested & tuned I'd be very concerned with stock rods & pistons.
well it was on 12psi. we came off that tune to change the turbo and re-do the piping
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Originally Posted by Inaccurate
Phee,

What mounts did you have that ripped out ?
90a poly filled oem mounts.
Originally Posted by KN_TL
What kind of abuse rips the bolts out of the block? People have been running 75a and 85a here and I would think 95a in racing conditions.

Has anyone heard of this before? This is a first for me.
a very well done launch with nice tires
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I believe that Innovative refuses to sell the inserts separately. But if they did sell them, then yes we could replaced them ourselves. No press is needed.

Just going by stuff I read, if you have firm mounts, the 6MT will *not* hop. If you have IM and you do have hop, then you got donuts and need to replace the mounts.
not true. poor radius rod arm bushings will also cause hop.
Originally Posted by KN_TL
I'm looking at the Ingall's site. Do you know if you can remove the adjustable end of the stiffy and replace it with a straight threaded bolt to mate it up with the 3G TL mounts?
2nd gen guys did the above and it works.
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Sorry phee, my exhaust setup is staying with me and the 2 or 3 other ppl that knows what it is
not cool, but i guess its alright
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Inclement weather conditions at Memphis hub may cause some service delays and disruptions within the U.S. today

Hi Speed may get his shipment before Bert and myself since all the snow is either in our path or possibly in Bert's case hitting him.
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Originally Posted by Xiomaro
^i hope so! however that is pretty rough on the engine and drivetrain so i duno if i'd push it that hard. But maybe for a little to see what it can do
Well, I'm sure a lot of AT guys including myself, will be counting on IHC & NVA6 to help strengthen the drivetrain.


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