Turbo Kit for Acura TL '04-'08
06-10-2009, 12:47 PM
#841
Chapter Leader (Southern Region)
06-10-2009, 09:48 PM
#843
Instructor
Thread Starter
A huge surprise is awaiting to be posted. All the doubters and the haters will be shut for ever. Congrats to Rodney who is the Second to break the ... mark.
Enjoy the hard and expensive labor.
Enjoy the hard and expensive labor.
06-10-2009, 10:19 PM
#844
Team Owner
06-10-2009, 11:24 PM
#848
06-10-2009, 11:29 PM
#849
Burning Brakes
Made it to dyno for the most part it went well , I have good videos this time I'll get them posted tomorrow with dyno sheet to website ...437hp 416tq at 9.2psi........yes vtec is on totally different talk about a sleeper..................
Please remember to donate to a worth cause any amount counts ........and thanks to the two users that donated greatly appreciated,..................I also have an update from competition clutch new clutch kit with flywheel will be ready for testing soon ... Right now I'm currently using a competition clutch disc with oem flywheel & pressure plate....
Please remember to donate to a worth cause any amount counts ........and thanks to the two users that donated greatly appreciated,..................I also have an update from competition clutch new clutch kit with flywheel will be ready for testing soon ... Right now I'm currently using a competition clutch disc with oem flywheel & pressure plate....
06-11-2009, 02:17 AM
#854
06-11-2009, 07:58 AM
#856
Race Director
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^I think production is a year out for the base, + more for the 3.5...
06-11-2009, 08:35 AM
#857
Team Owner
06-11-2009, 08:38 AM
#858
Chapter Leader (Southern Region)
06-11-2009, 08:41 AM
#859
Race Director
iTrader: (1)
Ok I have a very stupid question. So forgive me if I seem ignorant.
These two gentlemen, are just regular Joes, trying out trubo parts on their cars, right? The plan will be to gather and test and then assemble a kit to sell. Is there specialty parts being used here, or are they just mix and matching boost parts to see which is best for the TL?
What I mean is, if nothing special is being fabbed, what is preventing everyone from doing this right now, with a parts list?
Sorry, maybe I completely missed something in this thread.
These two gentlemen, are just regular Joes, trying out trubo parts on their cars, right? The plan will be to gather and test and then assemble a kit to sell. Is there specialty parts being used here, or are they just mix and matching boost parts to see which is best for the TL?
What I mean is, if nothing special is being fabbed, what is preventing everyone from doing this right now, with a parts list?
Sorry, maybe I completely missed something in this thread.
06-11-2009, 08:43 AM
#860
Chapter Leader (Southern Region)
Ok I have a very stupid question. So forgive me if I seem ignorant.
These two gentlemen, are just regular Joes, trying out trubo parts on their cars, right? The plan will be to gather and test and then assemble a kit to sell. Is there specialty parts being used here, or are they just mix and matching boost parts to see which is best for the TL?
What I mean is, if nothing special is being fabbed, what is preventing everyone from doing this right now, with a parts list?
Sorry, maybe I completely missed something in this thread.
These two gentlemen, are just regular Joes, trying out trubo parts on their cars, right? The plan will be to gather and test and then assemble a kit to sell. Is there specialty parts being used here, or are they just mix and matching boost parts to see which is best for the TL?
What I mean is, if nothing special is being fabbed, what is preventing everyone from doing this right now, with a parts list?
Sorry, maybe I completely missed something in this thread.
06-11-2009, 08:50 AM
#861
Race Director
iTrader: (1)
In what? What the engine/drivetrain can handle? The boost parts? I mean, even at 4 PSI, I'd be one happy mofo... The prelude could only handle 8psi...and it didn't put out anywhere near these numbers.
One more thing, I was under the impression our cars couldn't be tuned. Yet I got a call on Sunday from a buddy, he is a tuner for Neptune in Southern Ohio, and he said they just got this program that can completely tune and reflash our cars. Can this be?
One more thing, I was under the impression our cars couldn't be tuned. Yet I got a call on Sunday from a buddy, he is a tuner for Neptune in Southern Ohio, and he said they just got this program that can completely tune and reflash our cars. Can this be?
to the new pioneers!
06-11-2009, 09:08 AM
#864
Chapter Leader (Southern Region)
In what? What the engine/drivetrain can handle? The boost parts? I mean, even at 4 PSI, I'd be one happy mofo... The prelude could only handle 8psi...and it didn't put out anywhere near these numbers.
One more thing, I was under the impression our cars couldn't be tuned. Yet I got a call on Sunday from a buddy, he is a tuner for Neptune in Southern Ohio, and he said they just got this program that can completely tune and reflash our cars. Can this be?
One more thing, I was under the impression our cars couldn't be tuned. Yet I got a call on Sunday from a buddy, he is a tuner for Neptune in Southern Ohio, and he said they just got this program that can completely tune and reflash our cars. Can this be?
06-11-2009, 09:16 AM
#865
A J35A8 EG civic is in
And Lukoil is Russian, and I know because I used to own one.
06-11-2009, 09:28 AM
#867
A J35A8 EG civic is in
06-11-2009, 09:28 AM
#868
Team Owner
Ok I have a very stupid question. So forgive me if I seem ignorant.
These two gentlemen, are just regular Joes, trying out trubo parts on their cars, right? The plan will be to gather and test and then assemble a kit to sell. Is there specialty parts being used here, or are they just mix and matching boost parts to see which is best for the TL?
What I mean is, if nothing special is being fabbed, what is preventing everyone from doing this right now, with a parts list?
Sorry, maybe I completely missed something in this thread.
These two gentlemen, are just regular Joes, trying out trubo parts on their cars, right? The plan will be to gather and test and then assemble a kit to sell. Is there specialty parts being used here, or are they just mix and matching boost parts to see which is best for the TL?
What I mean is, if nothing special is being fabbed, what is preventing everyone from doing this right now, with a parts list?
Sorry, maybe I completely missed something in this thread.
I won't get into tuning.
06-11-2009, 09:34 AM
#869
Race Director
iTrader: (1)
That's essentially every turbo kit. There are only a few turbo, BOV, wastegate, and intercooler manufacturers. The plumbing from the engine to the turbo, downpipe, BOV to downpipe, and intercooler are all custom. Then you have the oil feed and return lines. Where do you think you would pull the oil from and where would you return it? Where do you start with the turbo and intercooler size? AR ratio? Can you read a compressor map? Know how to run the lines for the wastegate and BOV? Can you identify compressor surge? Size of pre-turbo exhaust plumbing? There are tons of things these guys had to sort out. It's far from ordering parts and bolting them on.
I won't get into tuning.
I won't get into tuning.
I didn't need an explanation of what needs to be done to boost a car. Nor an explanation of parts manufacturers. What I was saying is up to this point, I thought this was impossible. I thought special parts had to be fabbed due to space restrictions. Apparently this isn't so. Basically it is just up until this point, no one had wanted to take the plunge on their own car.
All I wanted to know.
Edit: Can't remember, but are they losing anything? Still have AC? PS? etc?
put aside $20 per paycheck... 
06-11-2009, 10:37 AM
#872
Team Owner
I didn't need an explanation of what needs to be done to boost a car. Nor an explanation of parts manufacturers. What I was saying is up to this point, I thought this was impossible. I thought special parts had to be fabbed due to space restrictions. Apparently this isn't so. Basically it is just up until this point, no one had wanted to take the plunge on their own car.
All I wanted to know.
Edit: Can't remember, but are they losing anything? Still have AC? PS? etc?
All I wanted to know.
Edit: Can't remember, but are they losing anything? Still have AC? PS? etc?
You have the typical attitude of many on here. Just bolt on a turbo and go, it's that easy.... It tends to take away from the hard work these guys have put in. There are many fabbed parts. Not sure what the special parts are that you mention, every turbo kit has basically the same parts with small alterations.
Tuning is what has kept this from being a reality. Now that it's no longer a problem you're going to get what you have here, 400+hp 400+torque TLs. I said a long time ago that at 15psi you're looking at 500+whp.
06-11-2009, 10:47 AM
#873
Safety Car
i was looking into the FIC myself just to up the power without boost and have the A/F working correctly.....wiring is obviously no issues but how big of a pain in the ass is it to program???
06-11-2009, 10:51 AM
#874
Instructor
Thread Starter
Comments like this are the reason why I admire and respect your knowledge "I hate Car".
It takes time and a lot of money to develop a kit: turbo or supercharger. And lets not mention all the negativeness and doubters you'll have to deal with on the way. Sometimes you can get lucky and get to a solution at a very early stage, sometimes you'll hate yourself for the situation you put yourself into. Determination will lead you there and also how deep is your pocket.
At the beginning of my project, I was hoping that with 3 to 4k, I would get to my result. Currently, I'm at 7k and awaiting the probable upgrade on the transmission. The team that I've been working with in Atlanta have been doing impossible build for the longest. Few times, the product of their search end up on someone else car at the fraction of the cost. Eh copying is free as long as you know what you doing. And it's just fair for us to try to get back some of our investment, by getting a small profit when selling the kit.
Rodney so far is at 12k and also develop a clutch for the 6 spd and once again, everything is out of his pocket. This fabricators, do not work on promise, they needed their money when service is complete. And if this was a team work, financially, at the end any and everybody would have got a a turbo kit for the lowest price possible. It was only at the end, after his first tune that Rodney did ask for donation, 2, 5 or $10, just to be able to hurry and finish the build, run couple more test and get a sooner release date. Those small amount should not break anyone, even though times are ruff, and together will make a huge difference. Yet nothing been seen, but most of us can wait to see the complete and reliable product.
Probably by the end of the year, after putting thousand of miles, to check the reliability, the final kit will be available, but at a very limited number. It was shown twice that we could break the 400 mark, at least on HP, I only get 392 lbs, impressive number but you can always have more. A safe and solid TL at 375 both HP and Torque can compete with most of the true sport cars. And at that number, the upgrade necessary will be minimal, and the car will surpass the surpercharged one.
Once again, it will be a limited number and the best is yet to come.
If at anytime, I disrespected anyone, I do apologize, and I also want to thank you guys for all the support and interest.
Cars are made to be modify then driven
It takes time and a lot of money to develop a kit: turbo or supercharger. And lets not mention all the negativeness and doubters you'll have to deal with on the way. Sometimes you can get lucky and get to a solution at a very early stage, sometimes you'll hate yourself for the situation you put yourself into. Determination will lead you there and also how deep is your pocket.
At the beginning of my project, I was hoping that with 3 to 4k, I would get to my result. Currently, I'm at 7k and awaiting the probable upgrade on the transmission. The team that I've been working with in Atlanta have been doing impossible build for the longest. Few times, the product of their search end up on someone else car at the fraction of the cost. Eh copying is free as long as you know what you doing. And it's just fair for us to try to get back some of our investment, by getting a small profit when selling the kit.
Rodney so far is at 12k and also develop a clutch for the 6 spd and once again, everything is out of his pocket. This fabricators, do not work on promise, they needed their money when service is complete. And if this was a team work, financially, at the end any and everybody would have got a a turbo kit for the lowest price possible. It was only at the end, after his first tune that Rodney did ask for donation, 2, 5 or $10, just to be able to hurry and finish the build, run couple more test and get a sooner release date. Those small amount should not break anyone, even though times are ruff, and together will make a huge difference. Yet nothing been seen, but most of us can wait to see the complete and reliable product.
Probably by the end of the year, after putting thousand of miles, to check the reliability, the final kit will be available, but at a very limited number. It was shown twice that we could break the 400 mark, at least on HP, I only get 392 lbs, impressive number but you can always have more. A safe and solid TL at 375 both HP and Torque can compete with most of the true sport cars. And at that number, the upgrade necessary will be minimal, and the car will surpass the surpercharged one.
Once again, it will be a limited number and the best is yet to come.
If at anytime, I disrespected anyone, I do apologize, and I also want to thank you guys for all the support and interest.
Cars are made to be modify then driven
That's essentially every turbo kit. There are only a few turbo, BOV, wastegate, and intercooler manufacturers. The plumbing from the engine to the turbo, downpipe, BOV to downpipe, and intercooler are all custom. Then you have the oil feed and return lines. Where do you think you would pull the oil from and where would you return it? Where do you start with the turbo and intercooler size? AR ratio? Can you read a compressor map? Know how to run the lines for the wastegate and BOV? Can you identify compressor surge? Size of pre-turbo exhaust plumbing? There are tons of things these guys had to sort out. It's far from ordering parts and bolting them on.
I won't get into tuning.
I won't get into tuning.
06-11-2009, 10:52 AM
#875
Instructor
Thread Starter
Man I LOVE YOU 
You have the typical attitude of many on here. Just bolt on a turbo and go, it's that easy.... It tends to take away from the hard work these guys have put in. There are many fabbed parts. Not sure what the special parts are that you mention, every turbo kit has basically the same parts with small alterations.
Tuning is what has kept this from being a reality. Now that it's no longer a problem you're going to get what you have here, 400+hp 400+torque TLs. I said a long time ago that at 15psi you're looking at 500+whp.
Tuning is what has kept this from being a reality. Now that it's no longer a problem you're going to get what you have here, 400+hp 400+torque TLs. I said a long time ago that at 15psi you're looking at 500+whp.
06-11-2009, 10:57 AM
#877
Race Director
iTrader: (1)
OMG guys, I had boosted a car myself, I'm not an idiot. I understand the blood, sweat, tears, time, and money it takes to do this. I was just under the impression that space was a huge issue and that tuning was a huge issue.
I don't have any type of typical attitude, I was simply asking questions, lol. If you say that, then I say you have the typical know it all attitude. Good lord.
Simple question (I even warned of stupid ignorant questions before I started), simple answers.
I don't have any type of typical attitude, I was simply asking questions, lol. If you say that, then I say you have the typical know it all attitude. Good lord.
Simple question (I even warned of stupid ignorant questions before I started), simple answers.
06-11-2009, 10:58 AM
#878
Chapter Leader (Southern Region)
06-11-2009, 11:00 AM
#879
Team Owner
OMG guys, I had boosted a car myself, I'm not an idiot. I understand the blood, sweat, tears, time, and money it takes to do this. I was just under the impression that space was a huge issue and that tuning was a huge issue.
I don't have any type of typical attitude, I was simply asking questions, lol. If you say that, then I say you have the typical know it all attitude. Good lord.
Simple question (I even warned of stupid ignorant questions before I started), simple answers.
I don't have any type of typical attitude, I was simply asking questions, lol. If you say that, then I say you have the typical know it all attitude. Good lord.
Simple question (I even warned of stupid ignorant questions before I started), simple answers.
Tuning was a huge issue. Look at all the blown up supercharged TLs. Now that tuning is out of the way or almost out of the way, you're going to see more and more higher hp turbo cars with better reliability than the lower hp supercharged cars.