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Old 04-26-2011, 02:55 PM
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Originally Posted by I hate cars
I'm not sure why you're so interested. One has more than 100hp on the other with a very nice powerband. Assuming the same weight, what exactly do you think the outcome would be?
Everyone under estimates the M90 build but I guarantee it is neck and neck with a normal turbo build. The m90 has a solid linear power band and even the tuner was surprised. I don't know if you've heard of YO SOLO, but they've seen the build and tuned it.

Like I said, Im not here to cause trouble but I have been in a M90 3.6 build and it pulls hard. He ran 3 cars on a C6 corvette on a conservative street tune.
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Like I said, Im not here to cause trouble but I have been in a M90 3.6 build and it pulls hard. He ran 3 cars on a C6 corvette on a conservative street tune.
Im sure it pulls hard, but i put 3 cars on a c6 vette and im not even FI or tuned yet.
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Originally Posted by TLdream
Im sure it pulls hard, but i put 3 cars on a c6 vette and im not even FI or tuned yet.
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why are we even arguing about a s/c in a damn turbo thread? Nobody seems to care but you Ack. Give it a rest. The paul nut hugging is out of control. Make a paul s/c VS rodney turbo thread if you care so much


My ECU parts are in along with a few other members parts as well. I have all the valve train parts from KMS except the the valve guides (in transit). I think I mentioned it already but the KMS parts are going in type-s heads with type-s cams.

Once the ecu is assembled, they are testing the the brake torquing capabilities.
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Originally Posted by TLdream
Im sure it pulls hard, but i put 3 cars on a c6 vette and im not even FI or tuned yet.
What has been done to give your TL an extra 200hp or to get the weight down to a sub 3,000lb level?
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Originally Posted by I hate cars
What has been done to give your TL an extra 200hp or to get the weight down to a sub 3,000lb level?
He's more than likely delusional, and pulled a ricer flyby.

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Originally Posted by libert69
My ECU parts are in along with a few other members parts as well. I have all the valve train parts from KMS except the the valve guides (in transit). I think I mentioned it already but the KMS parts are going in type-s heads with type-s cams.

Once the ecu is assembled, they are testing the the brake torquing capabilities.
Sounds like Rodney's tuner is really talented. I asked the other day and we're hopefully very close to getting these. I can then get this thing tuned. It's drivable and has good power, but it is rich and stumbles occasionally.

I haven't checked to see if the only dyno in the area knows how to tune a MS ECU. If not, I may be traveling to NJ to see the shop you use.
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Originally Posted by I hate cars
What has been done to give your TL an extra 200hp or to get the weight down to a sub 3,000lb level?
its not a TL, Its a honda prelude. J35a8 motor in a prelude, so its around 2800lbs and around 300whp.

Originally Posted by Majofo
He's more than likely delusional, and pulled a ricer flyby.
No ricer flyby here it was an auto from about 50-115ish.


More ecu's are being built right now. They will be tested on a couple NA cars, as well as a few autos. I will also be converting mine to throttle cable throttle instead of dbw.

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Originally Posted by TLdream
its not a TL, Its a honda prelude. J35a8 motor in a prelude, so its around 2800lbs and around 300whp.



No ricer flyby here it was an auto from about 50-115ish.


More ecu's are being built right now. They will be tested on a couple NA cars, as well as a few autos. I will also be converting mine to throttle cable throttle instead of dbw.
pics or bs.
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Originally Posted by Majofo
pics or bs.

Pics of what? Send me pm for more info, no bs here, i was just saying that claiming you put 3 cars on a c6 is not much of a chore. I will put 5-7 cars after then new parts get in. Car, engine, and clutch.





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I can't say it enough... I really want to see this 'lude of yours in person. Did you end up fabricating the motor/tranny mounts yourself? What other obstacles did you have to overcome dropping the J35 in that chassis?
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note: TLdream is not a bullshitter.. Majofo still is.
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TLdream.. start a build thread in Car Talk located in the Off-Topic section. Many guys have threads documenting their builds there.

https://acurazine.com/forums/car-talk-5/
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Originally Posted by bmeyer
I can't say it enough... I really want to see this 'lude of yours in person. Did you end up fabricating the motor/tranny mounts yourself? What other obstacles did you have to overcome dropping the J35 in that chassis?
I will be in Kansas City on Sunday if you want to come down. I may also be driving the car to North Minneaplis at the end of may to visit my friend up there/ do some alarm installs. I will start a build thread on AZ so i can address all the questions. that way i dont clutter the turbo thread.

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TLdream.. start a build thread in Car Talk located in the Off-Topic section. Many guys have threads documenting their builds there.

https://acurazine.com/forums/forumdisplay.php?f=5
I will go there and post up all my pictures and start abuild thread, to answere any questions.
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I HATE CARS, please clear that PM box. Important question coming your way lol
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Originally Posted by libert69
I HATE CARS, please clear that PM box. Important question coming your way lol
Done.
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Hmmm, no posts since April?
Whats up?

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Tear assing around, going thru tires and waiting on the ECU.
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Well this week we will be starting spade069 auto Tl S turbo build , we also have a new gauge pod for 3 g Tl ill get pics up of it , soon ,
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Originally Posted by pass427
Well this week we will be starting spade069 auto Tl S turbo build , we also have a new gauge pod for 3 g Tl ill get pics up of it , soon ,
Where does the pod go?

Also on this standalone. It was discussed on , but no answer. What sets this apart from the FIC? I am still a little confused because there are some good things about it such as it will enable redline to be further up in the RPM band, but that also on the other hand won't be good for our stock rods or even if you went TYPE-S rods / bearings.

I have a FIC and don't want to mess with the redline, so im just wondering what else it would do for me that would justify me selling the FIC that I just put a $500 tune on.

Also, do you often come to NJ? Would you tune it?
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Originally Posted by AckTL05
Where does the pod go?

Also on this standalone. It was discussed on , but no answer. What sets this apart from the FIC? I am still a little confused because there are some good things about it such as it will enable redline to be further up in the RPM band, but that also on the other hand won't be good for our stock rods or even if you went TYPE-S rods / bearings.

I have a FIC and don't want to mess with the redline, so im just wondering what else it would do for me that would justify me selling the FIC that I just put a $500 tune on.

Also, do you often come to NJ? Would you tune it?
As far as the bottom end is concerned, you're safer upping the rev limit on the J32 since it will have lower piston speeds at a given rpm. Rod bearing problems as a result of excessive rpm are usually from the big end egg shaping or insufficient lube.
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Generally speaking, going beyond a factory redline limit is more of a "concern" than a "danger". That is, it is generally ok to go way beyond the oem limit by +1000 (or perhaps +2000 RPM with other brand of motors) without harm to the engine.

However, going beyond the oem limit is a real danger in regards to valve float. The valve springs MUST be replace with stiffer springs.

In my earlier years, I exceeded the oem limit in my 1985 Iroc-z by +1500 RPM. The rod bearing were in perfect shape upon later inspection. The oem limit was 5500. After installing a much bigger camshaft (252 degrees at 0.050" of lift) and installing stiffer springs, I used 7000 RPM as my shift point for two years.

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Originally Posted by Inaccurate
Generally speaking, going beyond a factory redline limit is more of a "concern" than a "danger". That is, it is generally ok to go way beyond the oem limit by +1000 (or perhaps +2000 RPM with other brand of motors) without harm to the engine.

However, going beyond the oem limit is a real danger in regards to valve float. The valve springs MUST be replace with stiffer springs.

In my earlier years, I exceeded the oem limit in my 1985 Iroc-z by +1500 RPM. The rod bearing were in perfect shape upon later inspection. The oem limit was 5500. After installing a much bigger camshaft (252 degrees at 0.050" of lift) and installing stiffer springs, I used 7000 RPM as my shift point for two years.
I'm old enough to remember when valve float was the "rev limiter" lol.

The TL's stock redline scared me in the beginning. I was used to shifting at 4,900rpm and taking it to 5,700rpm for the really tough races in the GN. The first time we spun my father's built engine up to 8,500rpm on the dyno, I was walking away very quickly.

But you're very right, valve springs are usually the limiting factor and that's a good thing. I've found that higher mileage factory bottom ends seem to take the high rpm abuse better.

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This is also a new product coming from jandr prewrapped pillar with gauges already wired and install for simple install ,wrapped to match interior color .
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I know that some people are opposed to having A-column gauges (understandably so). However, this location does offer advantages. I can tell you from my firsthand experience that the A-column is a fantastic position for viewing/monitoring the gauges. The A-column gauges are up-close, personal, and close to your field of vision while driving. They are the next best thing to a Heads Up Display.

A-column located gauges are outstanding (pun intended).

Rodney - I am hugely impressed. Offering turbo focused accessories like this will help to put J&R on the map (from a marketing perspective). (two thumbs up)
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I've got my gauges on the pillar and even with that it is sometimes hard to look at it and concentrate on driving while in boost.

Can't imagine how difficult it is being low in the compartment.
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Originally Posted by KN_TL
I've got my gauges on the pillar and even with that it is sometimes hard to look at it and concentrate on driving while in boost.

Can't imagine how difficult it is being low in the compartment.
this is a quick pic of them lit up

http://i519.photobucket.com/albums/u...8/IMAG0065.jpg

kn ill agree with you where i have mine in lower compartment is a bit hard to look at but the real reason i actually put them there was in the beginning during r&d me and the tuner would do regular drives and testing but it was hard for him to see gauges so nite i was bored i install them there really like it as its stealth neat but it worked out great for te tuner as he could monitor and see as i drive ..
Inaccuarte actually said it best its way easier to catch a quick glance under oost if needed...
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So did anyone manage to get the turbo running "normally" in a Type S ?? I'm sure it will be a bitch to tune. Probably would be a good idea to lower the compression ratio as well.
Hopefully this kit will be available for the Type S in the future as an actual kit

and raising the redline combined with the added power, wouldn't that stress out the stock valve springs a lil too much?? I gotta tell you I'd be pretty spooked having to shift at 10,000 rpm in a V6.
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Originally Posted by Hotwired05
So did anyone manage to get the turbo running "normally" in a Type S ?? I'm sure it will be a bitch to tune. Probably would be a good idea to lower the compression ratio as well.
Hopefully this kit will be available for the Type S in the future as an actual kit

and raising the redline combined with the added power, wouldn't that stress out the stock valve springs a lil too much?? I gotta tell you I'd be pretty spooked having to shift at 10,000 rpm in a V6.
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Originally Posted by Hotwired05
So did anyone manage to get the turbo running "normally" in a Type S ?? I'm sure it will be a bitch to tune. Probably would be a good idea to lower the compression ratio as well.
Hopefully this kit will be available for the Type S in the future as an actual kit

and raising the redline combined with the added power, wouldn't that stress out the stock valve springs a lil too much?? I gotta tell you I'd be pretty spooked having to shift at 10,000 rpm in a V6.
There will never be a normal running FI car. Your right about the valve's and as many don't agree with me pushing the rods and bearings past 7k isn't the best either.

This is a complete kit already minus the tune/gauges/water-meth and 3" exhaust. Not sure how much of this thread you have read but the J series has come a long way in the last 6-8 months as closed loop has a solution as well as AEM makes an FIC to control timing and everything else you would need to do.
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Dude what was that about? Geez you gotta calm down a little..
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Originally Posted by pass427
this is a quick pic of them lit up

http://i519.photobucket.com/albums/u...8/IMAG0065.jpg

kn ill agree with you where i have mine in lower compartment is a bit hard to look at but the real reason i actually put them there was in the beginning during r&d me and the tuner would do regular drives and testing but it was hard for him to see gauges so nite i was bored i install them there really like it as its stealth neat but it worked out great for te tuner as he could monitor and see as i drive ..
Inaccuarte actually said it best its way easier to catch a quick glance under oost if needed...
I'd be a little concerned about a gauge being thrown during air bag deployment....
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Originally Posted by AckTL05
There will never be a normal running FI car. Your right about the valve's and as many don't agree with me pushing the rods and bearings past 7k isn't the best either.

This is a complete kit already minus the tune/gauges/water-meth and 3" exhaust. Not sure how much of this thread you have read but the J series has come a long way in the last 6-8 months as closed loop has a solution as well as AEM makes an FIC to control timing and everything else you would need to do.
Very wrong. I daily drove and even commuted 210 miles round trip a day in my 600+hp turbo car.

FI is just extending the usable throttle range. A NA car has a range from -20 to 0psi. A turbo car can have a range from -20 to 25+psi. That's it. All you're doing is transitioning from vacuum to pressure, nothing special about that and nothing hard about that. It's when people decide to push the envelope and go for that extra few hp that bad things happen just as they would if you were getting the power from a different source.
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I'd be a little concerned about a gauge being thrown during air bag deployment....
99% sure this has been covered and does not interfere with the airbag
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Dude what was that about? Geez you gotta calm down a little..
its about me being sick of people making stupid posts and not doing any searching whats so ever.

FYI there was a ~570whp type-s that was beast. SEARCH FOR THE THREAD
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99% sure this has been covered and does not interfere with the airbag
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