libert69

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^Not yet. A few weeks

care to explain? Ill be happy to pass the info along

tenzingsherpa

^^ no worries i am going to be that person believe me paul got some interesting things in the mix for my build. Prepare to be surprised . All my internals are upgraded, KMS valvetrain, etc my twin turbo build is gonna be epic then i am gonna put in sleeves and meth. im still waiting to see the J&R ecu come out and see some more progress with it before i jump on it. i can't wait to see j&R make the Transmission upgrades for 6mt cause im gonna jump on that .

J&R keep doing what ur doing.

nfnsquared

^^^^pics??

You need to update the ET completion date in your sig....

tenzingsherpa

^^ nope not yet. it is a surprise. i can tease though

http://i906.photobucket.com/albums/a...s/DSCN2239.jpg

u will have to wait and see, paul has been down the road with a single turbo accord v6 and topped out at about 450hp with one of his j36 engines and that was a couple years ago. It is because he has been down that road that he is doing a twin turbo to complement our v6 engine layout. With paul's help i am going to go over that .

anyway back on topic kms blockguard is a cheaper way to diminish cylinder walk.

nfnsquared

^^^Yeah, saw those pics 2 months ago in your thread on VsixP

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There's the block guard as mentioned above to turn it into a closed deck design. That's a very good solution.

The other is to bring the surrounding deck down .0015" so the cylinders pop up .0015". The head gasket will get a better bite and the heads will help to locate the cylinders. Usually this is done before the new liners are put in and then the assembly is gone over again after the liners are put in, milling the liners down until you get the desired clearances. It's still doable even if you're not putting aftermarket liners in.

What we used to do is bring the deck down a total of .003"-.005" then "kiss" the liners with the bit to bring them down to the required clearance which also makes sure everything is perfectly level. With such a small change you shouldn't have to worry about intake manifold alignment.

Once the cylinders are located securely all you have to worry about is cylinder flex. The first signs would be bad ring seal at high power levels such as oil out of the PCV or a lot of blowby only at full power. I'm not saying this will happen, just rambling.

Anyone know the liner and overall cylinder thickness of the J32? Any reason you guys aren't using aftermarket liners? There's a way to gain a ton of displacement using aftermarket liners. We brought a 2.5L 951 engine to 3.0 with the bore alone. It's cheap parts wise but labor intensive. I've calculated it before but you should be able to get in the neighborhood of 4.0L with the stock stroke.

tenzingsherpa

don't worry more pics will come. i just like to have project finished first before i start posting more pics up.

IHC, yea i have been considering that block guard as a temporary measure but i figure im spending so much now might as well get the sleeves for thier durability.

pass427

Got to keep this thread alive a lot of people have subscribed check out the most powerful Tl to date with jandrnextlevelperformance new ecu ,twin disc clutch , and turbo kit along with pistons and rods ...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zbZ-WY8IcP0

Me: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0v1rqHp-4NA

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Sleeves would be nice. I wish I had the money to do a turbo J-series. I can promise at least 4.5L of displacement with a pretty special process we first used on a 944 turbo and it would be so neat to do it on the TL with a 75mm turbo. You have the potential for nearly 1,000hp and retain some streetability.

Rajca

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how many pounds of boost r u running pass427?

pass427

16.83psi pump gas conservative timing

pass427

4 liter would be nice ,ill work on gears before I venture as 500 lb tq is no home imagine a 4 liter almighty ,but my goal was always 700 whp which 650 and ill be satisfied I think but feats must come first until then ill probably tune it with stock rods and see how well they hold up with proper tuning ,the motor I have now is 9:1 compression Pistons and stock rods let's see how much I can put to it um guessing 561 it will still hold ...Any doubts ???

libert69

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561? 1 more hp then kikazz's car? LMAO. Gotta have the most powerful TL huh?

Makes me want to go to 562 HAHA. We know my motor will handle 600.....but will the trans??? NOBODY KNOWS....

pass427

I can't wait til kikazz hears this hes gonna call and say now your tempting me he's gonna go 600 lol with libert build and bmeyer in progress and kikazz already ahead I sense a national turbo Tl meet to

bmeyer

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I'd be down for that

Hi speed

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Where, here in San Jose?

pass427

Have to be a place whare not only acess to a quarter mile track ,for a mile run also not sure when is mile run schedule in Texas ,this is where oil coolers will play an important role ..

TLdream

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same here... I am in. I would love to beat up on a coupel turbo TL's

pass427

Looks like we have to start doing some planning then and we also have 2 new auto Tl types coming along so libert I know you're in already now kntl Definetly thinking time for set of Pistons and rods BTW inaccurate monster build is in progress this is getting to be very exciting

pass427

Tldream I'm bringing the integra j powered out there , man I must sat thanks to everyone and there contribution wether its advise or purchase I'm just happy to see it all coming together makes me feel good and potential of the cars looks like its limitless once gears are addressed .......

libert69

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So we have 2 other auto Tl's getting the turbo kit? Both type-s models?

Inaccurate

Rodney,

Thank you for the honorable mention.

My nitrous build is not generating much interest currently. But I think that will change when I start getting some numbers to present. I will be using a progressive controller, which will help immensely with traction issues and allowing me to run a lot bigger shot.

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Throw 15lbs of boost on top of the nitrous. I've been meaning to check out your thread. I was just thinking the other day I haven't seen an update in a long time.

pass427

Don't worry its in early stage I cant wait to see some numbers nice build good luck I like the thread ..

libert69 So we have 2 other auto Tl's getting the turbo kit? Both type-s models?

Yes I'm picking one up this week this should be very interesting ,

If you ever switch to a manual that motor will easily go 600-650on race gas I bet ..

greco9885

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question, where is kickass from?

also libert, any eta on ur vehicle? there is a private rental next friday

handsom-hustla

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i let him answer the borough but im certain he is from ny.. i too am eager to see liberts build complete as well..

libert69

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No real time frame I guess you could say. Hopefully several weeks

spade0698

My TL-S should be ready for pick on Thursday or friday by the J&r crew for turbo install....it's been a long time coming. Thanks Rodney...Wayne. I can't wait!!!!

libert69

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are you the type-s auto? if so, have you made sure to do a few of the required steps in order to make sure that your trans holds up?

Type-F fluid is a MUST DO
new pressure switches (if you have over 50k miles IMO)
a trans cooler is always a good thing

Give us some info on your car and your desired goals with this kit. Im sure many of us are interested

pass427

Actually we will be getting the car to do all necessary install so I might as well duplicate your setup as you are the trend setter when it comes to auto turbo Tl ..

lirobert

hey libert just signed in to this site was going to buy a s/c but this whole thread has got me thinnking lol for the past 3 hours ive looked at lik 110 pages lol i have a 2005 at tl 75000 is it worth putting this turbo on for a daily driver i want a car to ue but when a evo or ricer pulls up to me i have the power.when is the next tl meet id love to see your car i love acura's i love my tl she is stock just an intake and exauste mod. BTW all this intrest in making the tl faster is i went to an evo shop n the guys were cracking jokes that a tl is nthing more then a fancy civic so i want to prove to them te tl is a beast thank hope to hear from you

phee

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Car should be fine with the turbo kit. Keep te stock boost numbers and get a trans cooler with new fluids and switches if you're auto.

AckTL05

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And an evo is nothing more then a highly stolen, high maintenance, money pit.

Im down for this meet. Still need to see how the Turbo runs against pauls build. I would love to compare the two and see where each excels and where each lacks.

greco9885

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dude ur comparing apples and oranges

first the bugatti vs kickass's tl

and now a single turbo 3.2 or 3.5 against a twin turbo 3.6 that has a completely built engine, and a vehicle that is lighter

please stop with these idiotic comparisons

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Set your goals higher lol. A stock TL will run with a stock EVO from a roll. The turbo TL should be able to toy with one.

7.5AV6MT

What's a stock EVO? lol

Bleak

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Yea I didn't know people bought evos to keep them stock. Although a few weeks ago a guy told me he had an STi and I asked him what he did to it. He was surprised I asked and said: "It's stock. You dont buy an STi to mod it!!! You buy a WRX for that." *shrug*

Lazer187

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if it aint modded, it aint right. (stolen from someones sig on here)

AckTL05

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It's comments like this that get no where. First of all it was a semi joke because 30k into a TL should bring it to low 11s or such which will run with a lot of stock cars.

I never compared turbos to Sc. What I did say was I WANT to compare "apples to oranges" or "Pauls m90 build Vs j n r turbo build" because they are both impressive builds and no one has done it yet. This is a forum for learning not biased opinions such as your self. If you don't like it don't post. It's a legitimate questions because they are both VERY impressive builds and maybe it should be address because learning is all about comparing one to another. Never did I bad mouth anyones build but as a consumer it's nice to compare because everyone does it everyday.

I have nothing against either paul or rodney as I love what they both do and the work they do is amazing. I am a vendor for custom work but I also own a TL and I have no affiliation with paul nor j n r. The reason I bring up Pauls build is because he rarely posts on here and it would be nice to see how they both do together.

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I'm not sure why you're so interested. One has more than 100hp on the other with a very nice powerband. Assuming the same weight, what exactly do you think the outcome would be?