Supercharging the TL
#122
I (don't) whine.
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I would say NEEDED if you're going to tune with the F/IC. Like stated before your stock injectors are at like 95% duty cycles and to add more fuel you're going to need these. When I was getting my car tuned with hondata that's the first thing we changed out.
#123
347hp/300tq @ 4psi
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tracking the car has nothing to do with it. its all about tuning, which the stock injectors are already maxed out. you want the DC down to around 80-85% tops and not 100% all the time. will the stock injectors work? they may, but not for long and reliably. anyways, if your going to do it, do it right! no need to cut corners, cause injectors can be had for pretty cheap and are sooo easy to install. a novice can have them changed out in about an hour
#125
Former Whiner
Please understand that I hate you all...
Okay, let me get this straight.
Please advise/correct.
For means of tuning:
What model injectors am I looking for? RSX- S<-- only type S?
AEM FI/C = 1910
How incredibly stupid would it be to run just S/C - PCD - ATLP J-Pipe - Third Cat delete? with no tune for a couple months?
Okay, let me get this straight.
Please advise/correct.
For means of tuning:
What model injectors am I looking for? RSX- S<-- only type S?
AEM FI/C = 1910
How incredibly stupid would it be to run just S/C - PCD - ATLP J-Pipe - Third Cat delete? with no tune for a couple months?
#126
^^ mite as well wait it out and do it "once" and do it "right" u need the type s injectors i wana say 04 or better but dont quote me. i also believe that the rdx injectors work as well.
This is the AEM F/IC Unit
http://www.aempower.com/ViewProduct.aspx?ProductID=1264
Punch in ur car year and model, and it will bring up the harnesses...careful and read the description.
This is auto tranny
http://www.aempower.com/ViewProduct.aspx?ProductID=1424
This is the manual
http://www.aempower.com/ViewProduct....roductID=1456#vvv
This is the AEM F/IC Unit
http://www.aempower.com/ViewProduct.aspx?ProductID=1264
Punch in ur car year and model, and it will bring up the harnesses...careful and read the description.
This is auto tranny
http://www.aempower.com/ViewProduct.aspx?ProductID=1424
This is the manual
http://www.aempower.com/ViewProduct....roductID=1456#vvv
#127
347hp/300tq @ 4psi
iTrader: (3)
Please understand that I hate you all...
Okay, let me get this straight.
Please advise/correct.
For means of tuning:
What model injectors am I looking for? RSX- S<-- only type S?
AEM FI/C = 1910
How incredibly stupid would it be to run just S/C - PCD - ATLP J-Pipe - Third Cat delete? with no tune for a couple months?
Okay, let me get this straight.
Please advise/correct.
For means of tuning:
What model injectors am I looking for? RSX- S<-- only type S?
AEM FI/C = 1910
How incredibly stupid would it be to run just S/C - PCD - ATLP J-Pipe - Third Cat delete? with no tune for a couple months?
aem fic 1910 is the one.
i would just wait until you have all the right pieces, before you install the SC. if you cant, then i would say its ok to drive around like that. just make sure you have at least a wideband installed and keep an eye on the a/f all the time
#128
Former Sponsor
iTrader: (1)
If you put in your vehicle info on our website you will also be able to see the correct part #'s based on your car.
F/IC:
http://store.excelerateperformance.c.../i-112732.aspx
Harness:
http://store.excelerateperformance.c.../i-269508.aspx
or
http://store.excelerateperformance.c.../i-269509.aspx
We have all the parts available to ship too. And if you want to make the harness PnP I have a guy who can do it for you so you don't need any wiring done.
F/IC:
http://store.excelerateperformance.c.../i-112732.aspx
Harness:
http://store.excelerateperformance.c.../i-269508.aspx
or
http://store.excelerateperformance.c.../i-269509.aspx
We have all the parts available to ship too. And if you want to make the harness PnP I have a guy who can do it for you so you don't need any wiring done.
#130
OMGWTF4THGENTL
iTrader: (2)
haha, your in the same boat i was. i bought a set of 4 from clU b r s x , then i got the other 2 at a local junkyard
check around, they shouldnt be more than 20-25bucks a pop.
actually yes he does. even though the stock 270cc injectors may work, they are maxed out at near 100% duty cycle. the rsx-s 310cc injectors are PERFECT to use with the stock boost pulley.
so lets re-cap. in order to make the comptech kit COMPLETE, heres a list of what you need to add,
1. 310cc rsx-s injectors
2. meth injection kit
3. AEM fi/c
4. AEM extension harness (send to paul to have wired)
5. A GOOD TUNE!!
this combo done right, along with the right supporting mods such as PCD's (an absolute must IMO if your SC'd), jpipe, freeflowing exhaust, etc,.. will give you a safe and reliable 350whp/300tq on 3-4psi of boost.
souljah, i would seriously consider the PCD's over any type of stock or AM cat. they are just to close to the head to survive the extra heat thats generated from the SC. ive seen this many times on the dyno and on the streets. all they will do is overheat and cause a cork in the system, which will cause a nasty boost spike and loss in power. i know your worried about emmisionis, but deal with it when the time comes and switch out to your stock cats. trust me on this....
check around, they shouldnt be more than 20-25bucks a pop.
actually yes he does. even though the stock 270cc injectors may work, they are maxed out at near 100% duty cycle. the rsx-s 310cc injectors are PERFECT to use with the stock boost pulley.
so lets re-cap. in order to make the comptech kit COMPLETE, heres a list of what you need to add,
1. 310cc rsx-s injectors
2. meth injection kit
3. AEM fi/c
4. AEM extension harness (send to paul to have wired)
5. A GOOD TUNE!!
this combo done right, along with the right supporting mods such as PCD's (an absolute must IMO if your SC'd), jpipe, freeflowing exhaust, etc,.. will give you a safe and reliable 350whp/300tq on 3-4psi of boost.
souljah, i would seriously consider the PCD's over any type of stock or AM cat. they are just to close to the head to survive the extra heat thats generated from the SC. ive seen this many times on the dyno and on the streets. all they will do is overheat and cause a cork in the system, which will cause a nasty boost spike and loss in power. i know your worried about emmisionis, but deal with it when the time comes and switch out to your stock cats. trust me on this....
Although 04accord speaks the truth about PCD, he is a rare breed of enthusiast. Souljah and I were IMing, he lives in Colorado, and is worried about emissions. I don't think the PCD's are as important.
The e-shit cats were that. Numerous reports here of them failing due to heat or some other unknown reason. That said, of all the SC folks here since 2005, I've never heard of the stock cat plugging issue from anyone else other than Sean... by no means is this an assertion that the issue is not relevant though. MichealBenz was supercharged in a track sponsored TL with stock cats for 2+ years and never reported this as an issue. acuratein ran his SC for 80K+ miles on stock cats, never reported an issue either. Again... just other empirical data.
Not saying is not a good tuning practice, and healthy's up the airflow, just saying the plugging Sean is reffering too must only occur in pretty extreme conditions, as NOONE had PCD's until 2007, an noone ever reported this as an issue.
I'm all set for a tune, got everthing but the meth kit installed and F/IC... Hoping nva-av6 will have some tune shops to point me too. I'm gonna do it this spring...
#133
Former Whyner
^ wow nice detailed pic...Well im not 100% but i have read they they would be Plug and Play. Thats all i got so i hope so. What are you paying for those?
#136
Former Whyner
yeah 95 is pretty good. I got mine for 52 shipped but there is a set on E bay for 128 shipped so your right in there. It could be worse and be some jackass that paid about 500+ for some new injectors overnighted.
I was gonna say something about that pic but it looks hard to tell. I would say maybe some dust or a web of some sort is making it look like that but if so then just get some new orings.
I was gonna say something about that pic but it looks hard to tell. I would say maybe some dust or a web of some sort is making it look like that but if so then just get some new orings.
#137
Former Whiner
yeah, pepboys or something eh?
I remember that guy, had it overnighted so he didn't miss his appointment.
I just need know if this is all i need. no clips or anything?
I remember that guy, had it overnighted so he didn't miss his appointment.
I just need know if this is all i need. no clips or anything?
#139
Former Whiner
sorry 04, but how would i feel if i needed to buy extra things because one person mis-informed me?
not that you aren't creditable, but still doesn't hurt to be extra cautious...
alright, i got the guy down to $85 and i don't think he's going any lower. even tried to offer him pictures of my gurl. i kid, i kid
others want 130$ shipped
not that you aren't creditable, but still doesn't hurt to be extra cautious...
alright, i got the guy down to $85 and i don't think he's going any lower. even tried to offer him pictures of my gurl. i kid, i kid
others want 130$ shipped
#140
OMGWTF4THGENTL
iTrader: (2)
sorry 04, but how would i feel if i needed to buy extra things because one person mis-informed me?
not that you aren't creditable, but still doesn't hurt to be extra cautious...
alright, i got the guy down to $85 and i don't think he's going any lower. even tried to offer him pictures of my gurl. i kid, i kid
others want 130$ shipped
not that you aren't creditable, but still doesn't hurt to be extra cautious...
alright, i got the guy down to $85 and i don't think he's going any lower. even tried to offer him pictures of my gurl. i kid, i kid
others want 130$ shipped
Secondly, be careful saving money. Ebay has no warranty.
I bought from a salvage yard from car-part.com (I believe they were called Honda Acura dismantlers). I got 6 for $150 shipped, had plenty in stock, and a 10 day replacement gaurantee (so no DOA guarantee)... From a 2006 RSX-S with 18K and 22K respectively (but who really knows), they looked almost new.
I few extra bucks gets them all at once with some emblance of a guarantee, from a non fly by night source.
#141
Former Whiner
i'm searching car-parts for two of them.
I bought a set for 85 shipped, dunno if good price or not but rock-auto brand new is 99.99 per!
hey kennedy they all just say Acura RSX, how can i tell if it's the Type-s on car-parts?
I bought a set for 85 shipped, dunno if good price or not but rock-auto brand new is 99.99 per!
hey kennedy they all just say Acura RSX, how can i tell if it's the Type-s on car-parts?
#145
Former Whyner
#146
347hp/300tq @ 4psi
iTrader: (3)
ya i bought a set of RDX injectors for like 190 shipped back when they first came out, but never had good luck tuning with them. the fi/c had a hard time scaling them down for some reason and the transition from closed to open loop tuning at 1/2 throttle was a nightmare. i either had to back off the throttle to stay in closed loop or WOT to lean it out.
hopefully you'll have some better luck with them, but IMO the rsx-s injectors were much easier to handle in the tuning dept. if i ever plan on running more boost (which im not), than i would definetly go wtih the RDX. 410cc is a bit much for only boosting 3-3.5psi
there really is no need for the Scion TC clips. a very slight modification on the stock clips and injectors themselves will do it. right now, my clips are modded to fit stock, rsx-s and RDX injectors it litterally takes 15 minutes and a hand grider to do the job.
hopefully you'll have some better luck with them, but IMO the rsx-s injectors were much easier to handle in the tuning dept. if i ever plan on running more boost (which im not), than i would definetly go wtih the RDX. 410cc is a bit much for only boosting 3-3.5psi
there really is no need for the Scion TC clips. a very slight modification on the stock clips and injectors themselves will do it. right now, my clips are modded to fit stock, rsx-s and RDX injectors it litterally takes 15 minutes and a hand grider to do the job.
Last edited by 04accordcpe; 02-20-2010 at 11:26 AM.
#147
Former Whiner
Hello all,
I had this setup in mind, the items in blue are static and will not be changing. Please advice, input, thoughts, opinions
Also, I will be tuning with AEM FI/C
1) S/C - PCD - ATLP V2 J-Pipe - RV6 Test Pipe - Tanabe Medalion Touring Catback Exhaust
For this setup- I've been told I needed a HFC instead of the RV6 Test pipe, can anyone tell me why? I figured this route will be the good due to it is practically full free flowing. Is that little back-pressure all the way from the 3rd cat needed?
I had this setup in mind, the items in blue are static and will not be changing. Please advice, input, thoughts, opinions
Also, I will be tuning with AEM FI/C
1) S/C - PCD - ATLP V2 J-Pipe - RV6 Test Pipe - Tanabe Medalion Touring Catback Exhaust
For this setup- I've been told I needed a HFC instead of the RV6 Test pipe, can anyone tell me why? I figured this route will be the good due to it is practically full free flowing. Is that little back-pressure all the way from the 3rd cat needed?
#150
Former Whyner
When i put my CT zaust on i was running the ATLP TP and i thought it was toooo loud so i threw my stock cat on and it took down the sound and hint of rasp away.
I have some V2 PCD's on the way and im very sure that it will increase some tone and give it that hollow clangy sound everyone is talking about
I have some V2 PCD's on the way and im very sure that it will increase some tone and give it that hollow clangy sound everyone is talking about
#151
347hp/300tq @ 4psi
iTrader: (3)
souljah, it will keep some of the drone and rasp down, but most importantly the smell. i ran catless for 2 days untill i couldnt stand it anymore and reinstalled the 3rd cat.
ya, your going to need something. i too have the comptech exhaust (w/mid-muffler), PCD's, ATLP v2 jpipe and HFC (procat 300cell) i had to end up adding a 20' magnaflow reso.
heres an old sound clip of my exhaust right after the resonator installed. as you can see its still a bit loud.
When i put my CT zaust on i was running the ATLP TP and i thought it was toooo loud so i threw my stock cat on and it took down the sound and hint of rasp away.
I have some V2 PCD's on the way and im very sure that it will increase some tone and give it that hollow clangy sound everyone is talking about
I have some V2 PCD's on the way and im very sure that it will increase some tone and give it that hollow clangy sound everyone is talking about
heres an old sound clip of my exhaust right after the resonator installed. as you can see its still a bit loud.
#152
Gentlemen
This may sound like a naive question but here it goes - I have a stock 6sp 2006 TL it seems to me that it can barely put down the power it has already squirming like a toad (torque steer) upon moderate - not even redline acceleration - but what happens if you dump another 40-60 SC HP to the front wheels ? Is it useful ?
I am attracted by the relatively easy bolt in but it is a daily driver and I would hate to invest in power that cant be effectively used
Thanks
NX6400
This may sound like a naive question but here it goes - I have a stock 6sp 2006 TL it seems to me that it can barely put down the power it has already squirming like a toad (torque steer) upon moderate - not even redline acceleration - but what happens if you dump another 40-60 SC HP to the front wheels ? Is it useful ?
I am attracted by the relatively easy bolt in but it is a daily driver and I would hate to invest in power that cant be effectively used
Thanks
NX6400
#153
Former Sponsor
iTrader: (18)
I had no problems, that is from a roll. Lower gears I had some problem with wheel hop. If you know how to back off the throttle and work the gas, you should be fine. Think of the 400 HP mustangs when you floor them, the ass end breaks loose. I want to think that you can use 19 in the rear and 18 in the front to make more weight in the front to hold the tires down, not sure if that would be a problem. What i'm trying to say is there are ways to "get around" the problem but its nothing too serious. If your going to spend 4-5k on a s/c, what's another 1k for suspension. Do it right, or problems will occur.
#154
runnin a little boost
iTrader: (3)
Gentlemen
This may sound like a naive question but here it goes - I have a stock 6sp 2006 TL it seems to me that it can barely put down the power it has already squirming like a toad (torque steer) upon moderate - not even redline acceleration - but what happens if you dump another 40-60 SC HP to the front wheels ? Is it useful ?
I am attracted by the relatively easy bolt in but it is a daily driver and I would hate to invest in power that cant be effectively used
Thanks
NX6400
This may sound like a naive question but here it goes - I have a stock 6sp 2006 TL it seems to me that it can barely put down the power it has already squirming like a toad (torque steer) upon moderate - not even redline acceleration - but what happens if you dump another 40-60 SC HP to the front wheels ? Is it useful ?
I am attracted by the relatively easy bolt in but it is a daily driver and I would hate to invest in power that cant be effectively used
Thanks
NX6400
Not at all the car handles the extra power very nicely. It makes your daily driver so much more fun to drive and doesn't effect mileage much provided you don't live in boost.
#155
Burning Brakes
hmmm, it's about controlling ur foot on that pedal....i've never had issue with adding more power to car and daily driver most def makes it more fun.....
#156
Former Whiner
Does anyone want to split the cost of 4 RSX-S injectors with me?
I found another set for $80 shipped, I already have four. Wish a had a V8
Or if anyone finds a better deal and doesn't need two, let me know.
I found another set for $80 shipped, I already have four. Wish a had a V8
Or if anyone finds a better deal and doesn't need two, let me know.
#160
Former Whyner