RonJonTL757

anyone know if i can run a Dayco belt i can find them all day long but cant find anyone who stocks a gates or goodyear belt

Souljah

Sup y'all!

Ron- Badass!!
As for injectors, I ordered two sets and both sellers said they are OEM from their RSX-S but to maybe confirm Kennedy's post. One was from an 02 and 04.

You should get the ones I sent you flowed so you can confirm they are 310cc

Souljah

any update?
feelings still a "so-so"?

swoosh

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i bet he is

Souljah

guess so...

RonJonTL757

lol my bad didnt even see the last posts guess i have been driving a lot today.

Ok here is my impression...I thought it would be a night and day difference with losing traction and uncontrollable torque steer, but I guess i was sorta wrong. The first night about 10 mins after the install and with the lose belt i ran it up and down the neighborhood (not the best choice) but i had no front bumper and no hood so i wasnt trying to get pulled for that. It didnt feel strong at all and the reason was because the belt sucked...

Got the new belt a few hours later after hunting it down btw Autozone carries gates and good year belts incase anyone needs it. I threw the belt on and the lovely whine showed its face but i kinda felt the power just wasnt there.

Today kinda a different story it felt very quick and i seem to be at 90 before i know it in 3rd but I am having some surge issues here and there more low end than top end but my A/F gauge is pegged at 10.0 so i guess thats good but maybe not good.

Im thinking about pulling the ACM and rolling around without it and see what my AFR is. I have a member that will sell me his AEM fic w/the harness but no word on when he is ready to let it go.

I just love that normal driving you could forget its there and then when you need it the blower comes alive. Overall just after the base install of the SC with no tuning or any modification I give the satisfaction for the $$$ amount spent a 5/10...but with some tuning and no surge i would expect a 9/10 from this mod.

I have to work for the next 5 days straight 6a-6p so ill be on more and see if i can get a vid on the way home of the afr gauge and the acceleration and some surge lol but gonna pull the acm prob sunday night

AckTL05

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Must be having trouble because my s/c gave me a night and day difference. Your adding close to 90 hp. Maybe you need some supporting mods like exhaust and such.

RonJonTL757

ouch lol see sig....PnP Intake Manifold/ATLP J-PIPE/E-SHIFT PRO-CATS/P2R POWER PACKAGE/UR STOCK CRANK PULLEY/AEM CAIv1/CT SS/COMPTECH EXHAUST/


need to update btw from pro-cats to V2's, but yeah after i remove the ACM ill see how it runs then if its worse then ill take it to a shop or bring it to paul

Hi speed

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Let the ECU get use to the blower. My car was not all there after my install, but after I got some miles it got much better. The ACM lowers the VTEC point to 4k which helps the engine makes better use of the boost. An AFR of 10 is pretty rich are you running the RSX injectors with no tune.?

RonJonTL757

no put back the stock injectors. I never noticed the 4K vtec but yeah it felt stronger today

AckTL05

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I was keeping up with 13 second cars when I had mine installed..you may not "feel" it like a turbo, but sit at 2nd gear at about 3k RMP and then floor it and hold on.

djbonsu

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NICE!! Congrats to you bro....the more time passes by I want this mod soo bad. I'm saving up as we speak! Its gonna b a while tho unless my tax return is something serious

AFR of 10.0 is pretty damn rich with the stock injectors!wats the afr @ idle and WOT? I would have it check out.

RonJonTL757

Thanks man yeah I sta on this mod for 4 years and said the hell with it and took the plunge.

idle is 14.4-15.1
normal is 13.8-14.9
WOT 10.0 lol

Ill add a video tonight when i get off work

djbonsu

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^^^Dope! Awaiting those vids! How was the install? How long? Difficulty level?

phee

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idle should be leaner and wot should be around 12.8. thats probably whats killing your powwer

AckTL05

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I am wondering if the FPR was done correctly, did you make sure to smash it as hard as you can while it was in the tool?

RonJonTL757

Install looked intimidating but the CT online instructions couldnt be more perfect. The key to this install is relocation but i would give it a 5/10 on difficulty level but you must have the right tools. The dremel came in very handy for shaving plastic but make sure you have every extension and size wratchet under the sun.

It took is about 13 hours to complete but we were kinda bullshittin here and there...smoke breaks and chit chat crap.

The removing the fuel pump and crushing that piece was cake but you need a 4" C-clamp for that. I was working with a semi-half assed kit that was used so i was missing several bolts and a couple hoses and we still managed. A new kit should be easier.

RonJonTL757

Im sure it was the sound of the fuel pump doubled. It sounds almost like my walbro 255 i had in my integra.

DecaFe1

havnt read the entire thread, but why anyone would want 480hp and 400tq on a fwd is beyond me. 350hp will put out the same quarter mile with the amount of tq steer youll have with the turbo.

Hi speed

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Forget 1/4 mile this kind of power is about stomping anything on the road.
480 hp and tq will put you ahead of just about anything out there with the exception of heavily modified cars and with the amount of TQ the engine makes at low rpm's you can do it more easily.

People to this day still think the additional 100 hp and 80 TQ the supercharger makes will make the car a tq steer nightmare. It doesn't.
As far as drag, the turbo will show the blower crowd the tail lights everytime.
I have had many fast cars give up when the see how fast this car gets going will under boost.

RonJonTL757

ya know it just occured to me that maybe my problem is that when we couldnt figure out how to wire the acm we never diconnected the computer when we connected it the right way...

*connected the acm wrong connected the battery and it didnt turn over
*removed the acm and it turned over
* called CT-E and they told us how to connect the the acm and we wired up the acm and it turned over and im running it currently.

maybe the cpu needs to be reset again?? any suggestions

Also waiting for the wife to get home as she has the flip and i need that to make a vid of the afr gauge tonight

t0talacuratl

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I thought you did that after you mention it that night? Go ahead and do that man....it's had some positive effect for me most of the time.

RonJonTL757

took 4 vids uploading them now to the tube now

I hate cars

Next up should be traction mods. But it looks like they're putting the 480hp down much better than I would've thought for a FWD. 1/4 ET will be better with the turbo and 1/4 MPH will be much higher.

Many times a car with lots of low end torque will be easier to launch than a car that has to rev to make power.

04accordcpe

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traction mods?? please elighten me...

also, i dont know how you came to the conclusion they are putting 480hp down to the ground decently.....

do you honestly think this holds true with our platform? and have you personally ever tried to launch a 350+hp FWD car?? unless you have it set up strictly for the track, with custom front suspension etc,... more torque down low is not what you want

RonJonTL757

Would have posted this up last night but i litterally fell asleep holding my laptop waiting for the vids to finish processing on YT. Enjoy

Went out last night after 9 or so and just took some city driving vids. Didnt have the energy to go to the interstate. Couldnt really push it as much but you get the idea. CEL is on from the 1st gen defoulers as im getting a P0139 P0159 so its SC unrelated.

Vid shows startup and slow cruising a/f ratios following a little punch at the end
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s6j5o_fXWh0

This vid shows my lovely 10.0-10.4 a/f readout and normal driving
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vo8TUfTW_zM

Last vid shows just a walk around and the sound my fuel pump is making and it is louder than before with the 72 psi it should be flowing at. Sound of my engine bay (Yes i know i need a valve adjustment) but the PCD's amplify that x10. Enjoy
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DEpMPjFaA0E


Comments & Suggestions good or bad welcome

djbonsu

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nice! all that hard work looks to have paid off!

if you ever get some more $ maybe you can try this for gages if it may work for our cars--> http://forum.e46fanatics.com/showthr...7185&highlight=

http://forum.e46fanatics.com/showthread.php?t=721173

other than being rich still, lookin good...any new discoveries on the rich WOT? how is are you engine mounts holding up?

DecaFe1

i completely agree with you here. a few of my buddies run a shop here in my hometown and they are currently building a time attack tsx. full custom cage and full custom turbo set up..they have unlimited potential, but they are keeping it at 350hp. i dont claim to have as much knowledge as my buddies, but it makes perfect sense to not need anything more. for the amount of money used for this turbo, id rather swap in a ls2 for the same cost if i was number chasing and wanted low end torque.

I hate cars

Because they said it didn't spin as bad as you would think.

Traction mods.... How about tires since no one has ever put a TL on tire. We know it will hook but all I hear is talk about broken parts yet no one has done it. If you guys are too chicken shit to put it on tire, you might as well get out of the racing game.

Yes I have launched a 350+hp FWD car. You're thinking in terms of absolute power not drivability.

More low end torque is easier to modulate. You don't have to rev it to the sky with just the perfect amount of clutch slip and throttle to get a good launch. More low end allows you to be a little sloppier, it's not either spin or bog, there's a medium ground which allows you more room for error.

tenzingsherpa

i understand where ur coming from too, but the turbo kit is one way of actually seeing where the breaking point of the car is. i mean some car come equipped with forged internals, etc to allow boosting a piece of cake. however, if ur a real enthusiast u usually use the engine ur car came with and build it to see how far it can go. i'm all for engine swaps but the maybe the guys making the tsx ur speaking of don't want to push it?

as far as traction mods im am not sure?? but im pretty sure the power can be put to the ground one way or another, i mean there are plenty of fwd civics pushing 500+ hp and they are light as f**k and still are able to run amazing 1/4 mile times. just take that power and put it in a heavier car and the car should be able to put the power down easier.

and lastly, i thought JR performance decided to ship the base tl turbo set for 370-380hp not 480 like they planned before, so putting the power to the ground shouldn't be a issue at first since it will be making slightly more power than the comptech, @ lower psi levels.

tenzingsherpa

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AckTL05

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You have precats and a full exhaust, your only running ~3.5 psi. Maybe thats why it doesnt feel as fast as it should.

04accordcpe

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nice vids ronjon! i have no idea why your running so rich, but better rich than lean i always say

until you get a good tune and get that a/f flattened out, your not going to feel its full potential. you have at least 25+hp in there to unlock






yes, anything over 350+hp is just plain silly to me too. when your building something, you have to know the cars limitations BEFORE you start thinking max power or learn along the way as your adding. not only does this platform suck to build on with its FWD limiitations, but the AM for stronger supporting mods isnt there for us too. you can go custom, but thats BIG $$$$

this is why im done chasing numbers myself. broken parts and no traction = no fun


what?? ive been running DR's at the track for over 5 years now... and after 250+ burnouts and launches over that span, ive learned a thing or two about our cars. i dont care how sticky your tires are, the weak point is in the control arms. your not going to get much traction if your wheel is bouncing back n forth in the wheel well like a damn pinball. like i said, unless its a dedicatated track star with a FULL custom front suspension, theres nothing we can do to launch successfully and put the power to the ground. the more hp and tq you have, the more difficult it becomes.. trust me on this.

here i am 4 transmissions deep, countless sets of axles, motor mounts, etc,.. can you really blame people for being chicken shit??




what kind of FWD with that kind of power have you launched? i believe you, im just curious


look, i know what your trying to say, but more torque isnt going to solve the problem. all your going to do is break more things and thats the ugly truth... besides, with the amount of power and insane torque that turbo kit produces, isits going to relegate the TL into nothing more than a freeway warrior. anything off the line to a medium roll, forgetaboutit.

04accordcpe

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thats just it, were not driving civics here. just because its FWD, doesnt mean we can do the same cause were FWD too. the civic has a whole different setup than our cars. they can run traction bars etc,... the control arms and basically the whole front end is different.. your comparing apples to oranges here

example, my control arm bushings were shot, so i called energy suspension etc,.. for some stronger poly ones, but no luck. had to press the crappy factory rubber ones back in

shitty platform with relatively no AM support = our FAIL

RonJonTL757

Thanks, Havent check my mounts but im sure they are holding up just fine but when i get my updated defoulers ill check them. The mirror is sick as hell but that is too over the top for me but indeed would be the ultimate sleeper.

Is this a fact? I still have my pro-cats but i dont feel like going through the work of putting them back on because i have intentions of selling them. Is there not enough back pressure or something? please explain...


Thanks I dont know what either and your right its better than running lean but I still need to reset the ecu and see what that does and then try running w/o the acm to see what kind of readings i get.

I want to take it to a shop so bad but i dont want to be throwing money on something simple... 25 more to unlock would be great, but no idea why im running lean huh

pass427

First it was turbo kit cost 8k then it is been shipped with 480whp ...
None of the above true .......you can launch the tl there's a technique in everything you do to make it work , if a lot of people would learn how to launch the fwd it would help dumping the gas letting out the clutch definetly doesn't help either but just enough clutch slippage to control wheelspin will help .. Some poeple are lost as to what I just said but I hope ihc can explain better , and as far as breaking axles ect were riding the tl types on 20" wheel with enormous amount of power .. But I think a video of comparing the two power adders should make this interseting not just power but normal driveabilty in daily commute , I'm sure 04 accord wouldn't mind I'm hoping .

04accordcpe

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have any of the turbo TL's track there cars yet? id love to see some videos and time slips to compare. as far as the launching, yes you can feather the clutch as you stated, but that technique wont yield 2.0 and below 60ft's, which is the most important stat for a good E/T.

like i said, its a suspension problem, not the lack of sticky tires or poor launching technique.


regarding the video, np how bout we both make some vids of our cars taking off from a dig and/or slow roll, down a long straight away. i want to get a feel of what kind of traction your car is getting and if that power is going to the ground correctly

AckTL05

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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b40TS...eature=related

Is this your car?

pass427

^^^^^^yes sir it is in the rain with traction control off I know where you're going with this that was just for kicks ....

But 04accord definetly I'll get some videos , I just think vidoes will settle a lot and also bring up a lot more interesting factors ..

AckTL05

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I didn't know it was yours, must have been before you put on your a spec. I can tell that you dumped the clutch, and was not really trying. It sounds nice.