Supercharging the TL
Burning Brakes
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And this is it also at wide open throttle for a long period of time ........
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xyrJP...=youtube_gdata
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xyrJP...=youtube_gdata
Burning Brakes
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And this is it also at wide open throttle for a long period of time ........
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xyrJP...=youtube_gdata
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xyrJP...=youtube_gdata
let me get a couple of vids going too.. its something i havent done since my last tune and overdue. except, ill open up another thread, so we can keep this one on track
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nice vids ronjon! i have no idea why your running so rich, but better rich than lean i always say
until you get a good tune and get that a/f flattened out, your not going to feel its full potential. you have at least 25+hp in there to unlock
yes, anything over 350+hp is just plain silly to me too. when your building something, you have to know the cars limitations BEFORE you start thinking max power or learn along the way as your adding. not only does this platform suck to build on with its FWD limiitations, but the AM for stronger supporting mods isnt there for us too. you can go custom, but thats BIG $$$$
this is why im done chasing numbers myself. broken parts and no traction = no fun
what?? ive been running DR's at the track for over 5 years now... and after 250+ burnouts and launches over that span, ive learned a thing or two about our cars. i dont care how sticky your tires are, the weak point is in the control arms. your not going to get much traction if your wheel is bouncing back n forth in the wheel well like a damn pinball. like i said, unless its a dedicatated track star with a FULL custom front suspension, theres nothing we can do to launch successfully and put the power to the ground. the more hp and tq you have, the more difficult it becomes.. trust me on this.
here i am 4 transmissions deep, countless sets of axles, motor mounts, etc,.. can you really blame people for being chicken shit??
what kind of FWD with that kind of power have you launched? i believe you, im just curious
look, i know what your trying to say, but more torque isnt going to solve the problem. all your going to do is break more things and thats the ugly truth... besides, with the amount of power and insane torque that turbo kit produces, isits going to relegate the TL into nothing more than a freeway warrior. anything off the line to a medium roll, forgetaboutit.
until you get a good tune and get that a/f flattened out, your not going to feel its full potential. you have at least 25+hp in there to unlock
yes, anything over 350+hp is just plain silly to me too. when your building something, you have to know the cars limitations BEFORE you start thinking max power or learn along the way as your adding. not only does this platform suck to build on with its FWD limiitations, but the AM for stronger supporting mods isnt there for us too. you can go custom, but thats BIG $$$$
this is why im done chasing numbers myself. broken parts and no traction = no fun
what?? ive been running DR's at the track for over 5 years now... and after 250+ burnouts and launches over that span, ive learned a thing or two about our cars. i dont care how sticky your tires are, the weak point is in the control arms. your not going to get much traction if your wheel is bouncing back n forth in the wheel well like a damn pinball. like i said, unless its a dedicatated track star with a FULL custom front suspension, theres nothing we can do to launch successfully and put the power to the ground. the more hp and tq you have, the more difficult it becomes.. trust me on this.
here i am 4 transmissions deep, countless sets of axles, motor mounts, etc,.. can you really blame people for being chicken shit??
what kind of FWD with that kind of power have you launched? i believe you, im just curious
look, i know what your trying to say, but more torque isnt going to solve the problem. all your going to do is break more things and thats the ugly truth... besides, with the amount of power and insane torque that turbo kit produces, isits going to relegate the TL into nothing more than a freeway warrior. anything off the line to a medium roll, forgetaboutit.
the tsx my buddies are building have complete custom front and rear suspension...i looked under there and there must have been at LEAST 5control arms in each corner...they have built 2 championship time attack ford focuses and a few gtr r35s, yet they are still limiting the car to 350hp. theres definately a reason for that.
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^^ maybe they don't wanna push the tsx like i said before. every build u make doesn't have to make huge power, plus for time attack brute power is not necessary, handling, and a substantial amount of hp to cut times down is key. alot of time attack cars don't need 600+hp, most actually have 400-500 and focus on shaving times off by a good mixture of power and handling. on the other hand drag racing is totally different.
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the tsx my buddies are building have complete custom front and rear suspension...i looked under there and there must have been at LEAST 5control arms in each corner...they have built 2 championship time attack ford focuses and a few gtr r35s, yet they are still limiting the car to 350hp. theres definately a reason for that.
...it's as simple as asking them why 350hp....
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FINALLY
I pulled the ACM tonight and now im running 11.0-11.7 AFR's That ACM IS A POS!!!!
Car feels a little stronger but im waiting on the ECU to come around.
LOL i looked at my exhaust tips and my gosh they are BLACK!!!!!
I pulled the ACM tonight and now im running 11.0-11.7 AFR's That ACM IS A POS!!!!
Car feels a little stronger but im waiting on the ECU to come around.
LOL i looked at my exhaust tips and my gosh they are BLACK!!!!!
whoa, wait a minute.... your getting those kind of a/f ratios running strictly on the stock ecu??? are you 100% positive your running on the stock injectors?? something isnt adding up here =/
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gonna bring the car to a tuning shop next month and see whats really up
MIne is feeling faster each day,almost question the turbo build, fast. I went to Chevy to get some syncromesh for the tranny and a salesmen was taking someone out in a new vett as I was leaving and lets just say i am sure that salesman had to explain why an acura just left him like he was standing still.
On another note I am not sure why having ported intake runners would slow you down.
On another note I am not sure why having ported intake runners would slow you down.
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MIne is feeling faster each day,almost question the turbo build, fast. I went to Chevy to get some syncromesh for the tranny and a salesmen was taking someone out in a new vett as I was leaving and lets just say i am sure that salesman had to explain why an acura just left him like he was standing still.
On another note I am not sure why having ported intake runners would slow you down.
On another note I am not sure why having ported intake runners would slow you down.
I would have paid to see that!!!
I am still supercharged, but the car is running great in the nice cool air. I'm waiting on the last pieces of the turbo before install, but I will miss the whine.
Last edited by Hi speed; Mar 24, 2010 at 10:51 PM.
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Well my driveway has told me that im leaking oil and a clear yellowish fluid which im sure if coolant... Im guessing and hoping that its coming from the EGR cap that the SC plugged into. Wont find out till tomorrow once i get it on a lift.
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Is it even possible....???
Last night on the way back from a local car meeting I had a highway run with a member on here who I run often and we compare mods that way.
We are both 6mt and have pretty much the same mods with the exception of my Procats to his PCD's and he has always been a tad faster than me on the highway.
So fast forward to last night and this was the first time i ran with the SC and IT WAS THE SAME RESULT
We were side by side in 3rd 60mph and when we dropped it he pulled from me normally.
Is it possible that im not making boost? I do not have a gauge YET!! but my afr was 11.4 or so and the blower was sounding good but is no boost possible?
We are both 6mt and have pretty much the same mods with the exception of my Procats to his PCD's and he has always been a tad faster than me on the highway.
So fast forward to last night and this was the first time i ran with the SC and IT WAS THE SAME RESULT
We were side by side in 3rd 60mph and when we dropped it he pulled from me normally. Is it possible that im not making boost? I do not have a gauge YET!! but my afr was 11.4 or so and the blower was sounding good but is no boost possible?
Last night on the way back from a local car meeting I had a highway run with a member on here who I run often and we compare mods that way.
We are both 6mt and have pretty much the same mods with the exception of my Procats to his PCD's and he has always been a tad faster than me on the highway.
So fast forward to last night and this was the first time i ran with the SC and IT WAS THE SAME RESULT We were side by side in 3rd 60mph and when we dropped it he pulled from me normally.
Is it possible that im not making boost? I do not have a gauge YET!! but my afr was 11.4 or so and the blower was sounding good but is no boost possible?
We are both 6mt and have pretty much the same mods with the exception of my Procats to his PCD's and he has always been a tad faster than me on the highway.
So fast forward to last night and this was the first time i ran with the SC and IT WAS THE SAME RESULT
We were side by side in 3rd 60mph and when we dropped it he pulled from me normally. Is it possible that im not making boost? I do not have a gauge YET!! but my afr was 11.4 or so and the blower was sounding good but is no boost possible?
are you running with the ACM or stock ECU?
and you wonder why he hung with you
i seriously wouldnt be WOTing it if i were you, i dont care what your wideband reads... no way is your a/f at 11:4btw, where did you plumb the bung for the wideband anyways?? 100% sure its not reading right =/
my guesstimate, is your right around 260-270whp running with your stock ecu.
i know you couldnt wait to boost, but IMO, you really should have waited to get all the right parts, for a job done right. your putting your motor in jeopardy
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and you wonder why he hung with you
i seriously wouldnt be WOTing it if i were you, i dont care what your wideband reads... no way is your a/f at 11:4btw, where did you plumb the bung for the wideband anyways?? 100% sure its not reading right =/
my guesstimate, is your right around 260-270whp running with your stock ecu.
i know you couldnt wait to boost, but IMO, you really should have waited to get all the right parts, for a job done right. your putting your motor in jeopardy
maybe this might explain the plume of smoke that shot out my exhaust last night
near redlineboost gauge and fic will be coming sooner now. Had a dyno day coming this saturday guess ill hold off
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ok not sure the best way to explain this but to take a pic. I have it welded at the end of the J-pipe before the 3rd cat
Not sure about what stock o2 sensor your talking about that i removed. I have 5 total (2) front PCD (2) rear PCD and (1) for af gauge.
I just thought about this but since i have the crappy V1 straight defoulers i have a CEL and i already had the codes read and they were P0139 and P0159 and if i remember correctly they are seconday front and rear downflow 02sensors which is where the defoulers are and im getting the "L" style soon, but do you think that has anything to do with it?
Not sure about what stock o2 sensor your talking about that i removed. I have 5 total (2) front PCD (2) rear PCD and (1) for af gauge.
I just thought about this but since i have the crappy V1 straight defoulers i have a CEL and i already had the codes read and they were P0139 and P0159 and if i remember correctly they are seconday front and rear downflow 02sensors which is where the defoulers are and im getting the "L" style soon, but do you think that has anything to do with it?
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I don't see anything wrong with the location.
Clearly, it's best to do it after the 2-1 JPipe collector, which you have done.
So,
What is the likelyhood that the wideband is giving incorrect info?
Clearly, it's best to do it after the 2-1 JPipe collector, which you have done.
So,
What is the likelyhood that the wideband is giving incorrect info?
