AndrewA

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So I just noticed the ATLP order page and Google checkout shows the full item price. Does that mean these are now in stock ready for shipment?

AndrewA

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Another option is a coating we used to coat headers for our 69 Chevelle. The ceramic coating provides wear and corrosion resistance, plus reduces heat dissipation.

We used

Airborn Coatings

but there are others.

evanj5

Just had the j-pipe installed on my car and I am VERY pleased and scared at the same time I was getting up to rediculous speeds without even realizing it.

I am currently running a 2.5 inch straight pipe from the j-pipe to the back pipes and a lot of people havent noticed much difference in tone well the tone on my car just changed dramatically. Before the jpipe I had a nasty drone/rasp right at 3000 rpm , well its completely gone. As well after the install of my cai and spacer i had this strange vibration between 4-5k rpm well I figured out what it was. It was the engine trying to breathe really hard and now that vibration has equated to a MUCH loader tone in my exhaust once I reach 4k rpm. The engine is FREE to breathe. Wow this mod is great. Now I just need to order the ATLP exhuast

1meand

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On a side note, I wonder if you could use that spray to coat the CAI tube to keep the engine heat away from the 'cold air' coming in the tube?

spade0698

I agree with evanj5, the cabin drone is completly gone even with the ATLP exhuast. On a side note, I have a date with the Dyno tomorrow. Hopefully I can have the same results as Blackura_NY. We both have the same set-up. I'll report the results ASAP.

mrlunecy

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Drone is relatively the same. It seems like it might have reduced BY JUST A HAIR, because it feels like the reduced backpressure allows the car to breath easier, so the throttle opens up more freely.

So in conclusion;
1) the j -pipe makes the sound throaty-er and a little louder
2) yet drone seems have a slightly reduced depth in tone (a little less vibration in the cab)

Hope this helps

BLACKURA_NY

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^ right on the money. drone is slightly reduced... i think the pitch of the drone is what went down... so it relieves my ears a little bit, but its also throatier

bent09

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Can I ask a really stupid question?

Where did the O2 sensor go?

evanj5

Oh I forgot to mention and someone actually PM'ed about it, was the clearance issue on the type-s with the j-pipe. Now I am not sure if this made a difference but the guy that installed it for me bent the hanger down after heating it with a torch. He had to use the torch to get the bolts off the cats too, this did not make me happy, I was nervous watching him put a torch up under my car but all is good.


I didnt mind the sound of my exhaust with stock mufflers and the straight pipe, but now that I have the j-pipe when I get over 4k rpm its sounds pretty shitty Im ordering the ATLP exhaust in the next couple of days.

stillhere153

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JPIPE
07-08 TL-S #18210-SEP-A52
04-08 TL-P # 18210-SDB-A01

OIL PAN
07-08 TL-S # 11200-RYE-A00
07-08 TL-P # 11200-RYE-A00
04-06 TL-P # 11200-RDA-A00


Theories regarding the oil pan clearance
A. oil pan's are different
B. jpipe's are different
C. guys complaining about clearance need to reinstall themselves not by a shop

C WHY???? refer to these pics
excuse the oil line I think I need a new crush washer




as you can see in the images above the clearance on the stock jpipe for the 07-08 type s is the side of a dime... literally a fingernail... I'd just like those who are questioning the clearance to remove the bolts and get 2 flat head screw drivers... push them thru 2 of the 3 bolts and make it move away from oil pan... then bolt on the untouched bolt... then remove one of the flatheads and reinstall the 2nd bolt... and finally the 3rd

aznbo187

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The J-Pipe doesn't replace the cats, thus no O2 sensors are moved.

BLACKURA_NY

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good idea Al

this what i am doing on Thursday

those pics make me feel a little more at ease regarding the clearance. dumb ass me didnt look at the OEM pipe during the install, and didnt think clearance was a problem until others mentioned. car temp seems to be around normal...

after talking to Mike today, he also recommended, putting something in between the jpipe and oil pan, bolting it down, and removing what you used (flat head, washer whatever....)

Al.. when you coming to Dyno out on LI ? i wanna see what #'s you put down on the same dyno i used.


the pipe does hang a little lower then OEM... but since its positioned around the wheel, i doubt it will scrape or bottom out.... considering i just dumped my car almost 2.0" lower today i think i'll be fine

stillhere153

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um... I am available tomorrow... we can do back to back dyno's so I can blow ur numbers out of the window

aznbo187

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I should have a pic of the 3rd cat replacement by the end of this week.

BLACKURA_NY

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lol. i gotta work tomorrow, but i was supposed to stop by the Dyno place for a wheel fitment sometime in the middle of the day.... so if you're really down, lemme know

BLACKURA_NY

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come on man... you're killing me!! i just paid off my a-mex yesterday

i should just sign up for an Aznbo Express card.... got good interest rates? late fees ?

Fulani has a TL

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Dude I need to sign up for the "aznbo Express" as well!!!!

bent09

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Not trying to jack your picture but on mine there is something which I assume to be a sensor in the stock Jpipe.


Do people just drill into the flatest spot on the jpipe?

stillhere153

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I can guarantee you that is not a sensor location... and there are other areas where you could weld a bung for an o2 sensor... ie... before flex pipe... that metal portion which was circled is something else

KenTL

BAD IDEA. You don't want to pretension it by prying on it. You will tweak the threaded studs one way or another when you torque down the nuts. Just look at this picture of Mike's 04-06 oil pan

vs mine







See where it touches? You can see where the pipe is touching the oil pan and the part of the oil pan facing the front of the car has a completely different shape to it compared to the 04-06 oil pans. I installed mine myself and I put tension with my bare hands instead of prying it with a bar (again I don't want to tweak the studs). There is no way you can pry the bar enough to get the 04-06 oil pan clearance without bending the pipe for clearance.

It's kind of hard to see but there's already scratches on both the pipe and the oil pan due to vibrations and the pipe expanding.

BLACKURA_NY

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well i wasnt going to "pry" it, but i thought about sliding a thin metal washer in between, tightening it up... and then removing the washer, so there is atleast 1-2mm clearance...

but, Al's pictures show the stock Jpipe touching the oil pan as well, so maybe its not a big worry? i am still going to heat sheild wrap my pipe on thursday

KenTL

I used my hands for clearance, and the threaded studs are smaller than the flange holes will only give you the 2 or 3 mm of "room" to work with, but even then it still ended up touching. In my case the only way to make more room is to heat/bend the pipe, which I'll do if it's a last resort, since the pipe looks beautifully finished and heating it to bend it will discolor it.

Allon: Can you take a pic of your stock j-pipe from directly underneath the car and not at an angle? That way you can really see the actual clearance, since at an angle your pics look like there is NO clearance whatsoever.

Or anyone with an 07 + car with the stock j-pipe can you please take a pic of your clearance directly underneath your car? Thanks.

spiike

Well.. there goes trying to sound like a g35 exhaust. Has anyone installed this with just the stage 3 mod?

BLACKURA_NY

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here are a few i snapped today while my car was on the lift... ill be adjusting the pipe the best i can on thursday when i get a chance

the pipe is definitely touching (just barely) the oil pan.. but from Stillhere's photos, it looks like the stock one is touching also.... we need another member to step and take some pics of their stock j-pipe installed from a dead under view.

from the front primary cat

jackdiamondss

stillhere153 might be on to something.

JPIPE
07-08 TL-S #18210-SEP-A52
04-08 TL-P # 18210-SDB-A01

OIL PAN
07-08 TL-S # 11200-RYE-A00
07-08 TL-P # 11200-RYE-A00
04-06 TL-P # 11200-RDA-A00

Theories regarding the oil pan clearance
A. oil pan's are different
B. jpipe's are different

I agree.

chris80i

So what should we do mike?

stillhere153

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mike's on top of it... he will update soon

attention all shoppers dont jump into any conclusions

bent09

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Could someone please tell me what this is and do I just reinstall it on the new jpipe?

stillhere153

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watever it is you dont need it

nim090

hey allon I'm in VA right now but on Saturday I'm going to sal to install a few things as well as the greddy, I can take some photos then...I'm in the second batch for the jpipe

PeteThaPitbull

Mike, any updates as for when the rest of us from the first batch will be getting Jpipes?

aznbo187

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We will have some more of them ready by tomorrow to be shipped.



Those who haven't received theirs will receive additional spacing on their J-Pipe to ensure that it doesn't touch anywhere.

Those who already have their J-Pipe (2007 TL/TL-S) may exchange theirs after the remainder of the people receive theirs. You can also try re-aligning the J-Pipe again by loosening the all the bolts a little and sticking a thin washer in between the J-Pipe and the oil pan where it's touching, then re-tightening it. The bolt holes are "loose" meaning we've intentionally allowed play in it which may be enough to shift it away from touching the pan.

aznbo187

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That is just a small factory heat shield. This pic, someone intentionally installed a bung for an O2 sensor.

bent09

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Could it be possible that they did it when they installed the supercharger?

Ohhhhhh wait a second could it be the A/F reader for my gauge? If so is that the best place?

sorry I am a dumb ass but I knew mine looked different.

chris80i

THANKS MIKE LOVE THAT YOUR ON TOP OF YOUR PRODUCT MAN. MIKES THE GREATEST ISN'T HE HAHAH SO WHAT DO YOU HAVE TO DO AT THE SHOP TO MODIFY THE PIPE HEAT AND BEND IT MORE JUST CURIOUS MIKE? THANKS FOR THE UPDATE TO ALL OF US .... HAD ME WORRIED, HOW IS THE PRODUCTION OF THE HI FLOW CAT?

akademiks165

Mike, how many are being shipped out tomorrow?

aznbo187

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About 25. I just got the revised version in and I'd like to double check with a local TL-S before sending it out. I'm hoping to schedule someone tomorrow morning.

akademiks165

Another week of waiting for numbers 45+?

evanj5

How much of a problem with the pipe touching like that cause if I leave it like that for say two months?

HQTL6SPD

mine is a base tl, i'll be waiting for it soon!