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Old Oct 28, 2009 | 12:34 PM
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Originally Posted by ChodTheWacko
Perhaps a separate thread for this, since my firefox on XP also can't upload pictures. I have to use IE. I'd be interested in a debugging thread on this (although I can tolerate using IE just for that).

There is a new firefox beta out today (with better win7 support).
i'll try that when I get home.

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sure. when I posted this it *seemed* like it was related to 7.

do we have a Java bitch thread? LOL
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Old Oct 28, 2009 | 12:35 PM
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In other related news not only did MS release Remote Desktop Protocol 7.0 yesterday which can be found here

http://support.microsoft.com/kb/969084

They also released the platform update for Windows Vista via Windows Update

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It includes major new components that shipped with Windows 7, as well as updated runtime libraries.[79][80] It requires Service Pack 2 of Windows Vista or Windows Server 2008 and is on Windows Update as a Recommended download.
The Platform Update allows application developers to target both Windows Vista and Windows 7. It will consist of the following components:
Windows Graphics runtime: Direct2D, DirectWrite, Direct3D 11, DXGI 1.1, and WARP;
Updates to Windows Imaging Component;
Updates to XPS Print API, XPS Document API and XPS Rasterization Service;
Windows Automation API (updates to MSAA and UI Automation); (will also be available on Windows XP)
Windows Portable Devices Platform; (adds support for MTP over Bluetooth and MTP Device Services)
Windows Ribbon API;
Animation Manager Library.
Some updates will also be available as separate releases for both Windows XP and Windows Vista:
Windows Management Framework: Windows PowerShell 2.0, Windows Remote Management 2.0, BITS 4.0
Remote Desktop Connection 7.0 (RDP7) client;
Windows Web Services API (Native code);
Although extensive, the Platform Update does not bring Windows Vista to the level of features and performance offered by Windows 7. For example, even though DXGI 1.1 update introduces support for hardware 2D acceleration featured by WDDM 1.1 video drivers, only Direct2D and DirectWrite will employ it and GDI/GDI+ will continue to rely on software rendering. Also, even though Direct3D 11 runtime will be able to run on D3D9-class hardware and WDDM drivers using "feature levels" first introduced in Direct3D 10.1, Desktop Windows Manager has not been updated to use either Direct3D 10.1 or WARP software rasterizer.
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Old Oct 28, 2009 | 12:46 PM
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Direct3D 11 on Vista? Is this a surprise or did Microsoft previously announce they were going to do this? I thought the DX11 platform was going to be limited to Windows 7.
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Old Oct 28, 2009 | 12:54 PM
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Nope it's been planned for Vista all along. There's no reason why it can't run on Vista it's just a superset of DX10.1 with a few improvements. While DX10 was a big jump from DX9. Also you can install WDDM 1.1 drivers in Vista and of course install WDDM 1.0 driver in 7. But in Vista you don't get the benefit of WDDM 1.1 drivers but they work. This just makes easier for ATi and Nvidia
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Old Oct 28, 2009 | 01:41 PM
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Originally Posted by jupitersolo
Did you try the Vista drivers?
Yes...And XP as well. Back to XP for that Sony then...
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Old Oct 28, 2009 | 01:56 PM
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Oh yeah that things not running Aero it's got Intel 855 graphics, it needs be at least 945
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Old Oct 28, 2009 | 02:04 PM
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Originally Posted by #1 Stunna
Oh yeah that things not running Aero it's got Intel 855 graphics, it needs be at least 945
Don't care about Aero, won't load the driver (loads a default VGA with most of the screen missing)
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Old Oct 28, 2009 | 02:08 PM
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I'd at least try installing the XP drivers. We got stogie's soundcard working by installing XP drivers in windows 7. I remember installing XP graphics drivers on Vista in the early days so it's worth a shot especially if you're just gonna can it if it doesn't work.
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Old Oct 28, 2009 | 02:14 PM
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I did, no dice. Tried some other Internet suggestions and gave up. No biggie, XP works on it and I have 38 other laptops to mess around with.
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Old Oct 28, 2009 | 02:16 PM
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did you turn on XP compatibility mode for the driver installer?
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Old Oct 28, 2009 | 02:19 PM
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Originally Posted by #1 Stunna
did you turn on XP compatibility mode for the driver installer?
Yes. and ran as admin, it loads, but then gets a 43 error code...

Lots of thread on it...

http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&s...&aq=f&oq=&aqi=
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Old Oct 28, 2009 | 02:33 PM
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holy crap.... 35 pages? Cliffs please!
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Old Oct 28, 2009 | 03:03 PM
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Originally Posted by synth19
holy crap.... 35 pages? Cliffs please!
A company called Microsoft has released a product called Windows. The product requires a computer to use it.
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Old Oct 28, 2009 | 03:07 PM
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Originally Posted by Anachostic
A company called Microsoft has released a product called Windows , Millions of people bitching for the last 20 or so years. The product requires a newer computer to use it.
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Old Oct 28, 2009 | 03:19 PM
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I've been running 7 for 2 weeks now. I'm in front of my laptop ~12-16 hours a day, and I must say that the OS is just brilliant...my box was fast before, but Win7 makes it seem so much more responsive. And, I havent had to reboot yet (except when forced to by our IT department pushing down 3rd party apps)
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Old Oct 28, 2009 | 03:19 PM
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Originally Posted by jupitersolo
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<object width="425" height="344"><param name="movie" value="http://www.youtube.com/v/Cdiz0k0Rudw&hl=en&fs=1&"></param><param name="allowFullScreen" value="true"></param><param name="allowscriptaccess" value="always"></param><embed src="http://www.youtube.com/v/Cdiz0k0Rudw&hl=en&fs=1&" type="application/x-shockwave-flash" allowscriptaccess="always" allowfullscreen="true" width="425" height="344"></embed></object>
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Old Oct 28, 2009 | 03:21 PM
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Thanks for the help, #1 Stunna.
I should probably find/browse various Windows 7 FAQs before I get too deep into it.

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Old Oct 28, 2009 | 03:26 PM
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Stunna that is funny...


But you do need a newer computer, like in the last three years. None of my computers will take W7, my wife will,but it's two months old.
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Old Oct 28, 2009 | 03:29 PM
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Your P4 3.6 will take it. I've been running it for a year on my 3.2 P4 with 2gb RAM and intel 945 graphics. What is telling you that it won't run? and what is it saying.
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Old Oct 28, 2009 | 03:33 PM
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Originally Posted by #1 Stunna
Your P4 3.6 will take it. I've been running it for a year on my 3.2 P4 with 2gb RAM and intel 945 graphics. What is telling you that it won't run? and what is it saying.
I get that graphics adapter not compatible. That's the problem for all of mine.
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Old Oct 28, 2009 | 04:58 PM
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That's horse shit! Nvidia has graphics drivers for windows 7 (even 64 bit) all the way back to the 6 series drivers.

"This is a WHQL-certified driver for GeForce 6, 7, 8, 9, 100, and 200-series desktop GPUs and ION desktop GPUs."

you can get them from their site here
32 bit
http://www.nvidia.com/object/win7_wi...1.07_whql.html

64 bit
http://www.nvidia.com/object/win7_wi...1.07_whql.html

Like I've said over and over your system will run 7 with no problems

This is my 500th post in this thread!

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Old Oct 28, 2009 | 05:16 PM
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So the assholes are telling me this to get me to buy a new computer, what dicks!
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Old Oct 28, 2009 | 05:18 PM
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who are the assholes? did you use the upgrade advisor from MS?
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Old Oct 28, 2009 | 05:43 PM
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Yes I used W7 Adviser that I d/l from MS.
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Old Oct 28, 2009 | 05:46 PM
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Really? What exactly did it say? you got a screenshot? That's fucked up!
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Old Oct 28, 2009 | 05:54 PM
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Originally Posted by jupitersolo
So the assholes are telling me this to get me to buy a new computer, what dicks!
I meant they're telling me that I can't upgrade or use W7 because the graphics adapter isn't good enough. It didn't come right out and tell me to upgrade, but... you say I should be able to upgrade.
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Old Oct 28, 2009 | 06:07 PM
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That's still bullshit. You will have no problem upgrading to 7 cause of your graphic card. It's graphic requirements are the same as Vista and Vista worked on my Nvidia 6800GT which was older than your card and if it works in Vista it will work in 7.
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Old Oct 28, 2009 | 06:15 PM
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Originally Posted by #1 Stunna
That's still bullshit. You will have no problem upgrading to 7 cause of your graphic card. It's graphic requirements are the same as Vista and Vista worked on my Nvidia 6800GT which was older than your card and if it works in Vista it will work in 7.
Is there a way to try it w/o buying it first? I don't want to get stuck with it. I can't dual boot, my c drive is only 135gb, two 70gb Raptors. Has less than 40gb open.
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Old Oct 28, 2009 | 06:19 PM
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yup there's a 90 day free trial of the enterprise edition. you can get that here

http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/e.../cc442495.aspx

OS X does that too right?



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Old Oct 28, 2009 | 07:07 PM
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Not sure, But it cheap enough that I'd be OK buying it to even try it.

But trying to d/l that is a joke, I have to use IE8, when I did try to d/l it locked up twice with installing the ActiveX for it, when I try to save to HD, it wants to send error report and then won't d/l because there's some other error on the server site.
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Old Oct 28, 2009 | 07:14 PM
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yes they use a download manager that works only with IE. Hmmm seems as if they're having some technical difficulties. I can't even get past the page that I posted. It can't find the next page, almost like a 404 error.
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Old Oct 28, 2009 | 07:16 PM
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Thanks, I'll try later
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Old Oct 28, 2009 | 08:11 PM
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+1 on something being 'effed with Microsoft's downloads. For the past two days I've been trying to download 2008 Server R2 from my volume licensing site and I never made it past 60% after letting it run all day with the download manager. This morning I tried again with the regular HTTP file download option that's available in the volume licensing site and I got the .iso no problem in just over two hours.
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Old Oct 28, 2009 | 08:23 PM
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maybe they're getting swamped with people interested in 7? I know myself I was at my non IT job a couple days ago for only an hour and I had 3 people come up and ask me about it. I told them I didn't know anything and hadn't heard of it!
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Old Oct 28, 2009 | 09:25 PM
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ok so i installed 7 on my laptop off of my old drive and i did custom install. i still have all of my old document files that where on the old OS in windows 7. i kinda wanted them gone so i can start fresh. what happend? kinda boggleing my mind right now
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Old Oct 28, 2009 | 09:38 PM
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ok so i installed 7 on my laptop off of my old drive and i did custom install. i still have all of my old document files that where on the old OS in windows 7. i kinda wanted them gone so i can start fresh. what happend? kinda boggleing my mind right now
Just delete out the .old directory if you don't want that stuff...It did it incase you wanted it...
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Old Oct 28, 2009 | 09:44 PM
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Yes if you install Win 7 or Vista on a partition that already has Windows installed on it then it movies all those files into the windows.old folder in case you still wanted those files. You could've deleted the partition from the install cd before proceeding with the install.
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Old Oct 28, 2009 | 09:48 PM
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i know about the old file, however when i go into my computer i clikcon C drive.

before i numerouse that were random numbers and what not I\398 and bunch of old folders still on windows 7. just odd to be honest. i can go into te windows old file and extrct my documents back out.

i'm just wondering if i can get rid of some of these old file folders. but some of these file folders have data in them and i don't even have that program installed
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Old Oct 28, 2009 | 09:52 PM
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Get rid of all .old...It backs up a lot of stuff.
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Old Oct 28, 2009 | 10:00 PM
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ummmm maybe but are you really that out of space that you need them deleted? Maybe you should get a bigger drive? Don't be surprised if your PC doesn't boot after deleting those files
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