Apple: iPhone News and Discussion Thread
07-01-2010, 08:01 AM
#3801
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the ratio of cases/bumpers should greatly out-number the amount of phones...
yet, you can go in the store and buy a phone today, but cases and screen protectors are nowhere to be found...
yet, you can go in the store and buy a phone today, but cases and screen protectors are nowhere to be found...
07-01-2010, 09:13 AM
#3802
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My ATT store had both a cool Frogz case which I got and the protector which I didn't but.
07-01-2010, 09:24 AM
#3803
Team Owner
Can't wait for the white one to come out and not have the antenna problem. Then the bitching will really begin.
07-01-2010, 12:05 PM
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07-01-2010, 12:32 PM
#3810
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here is my local best buy on screen protectors and cases...
Unavailable Baton Rouge LA 5913 Bluebonnet Blvd, Baton Rouge, LA 70836
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07-01-2010, 12:48 PM
#3812
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i have this half assed thing on my phone right now...
its the first part of a incipio case without the plastic backing (you get two rubber pieces with each case)
so im using my co-workers yellow piece to at least protect the back.. the screen is making me nuts though... i hate the thought of a huge scratch... i'd be happy with a front/back screen protector...
its the first part of a incipio case without the plastic backing (you get two rubber pieces with each case)
so im using my co-workers yellow piece to at least protect the back.. the screen is making me nuts though... i hate the thought of a huge scratch... i'd be happy with a front/back screen protector...
07-01-2010, 12:54 PM
#3813
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^ I'm always in limbo about protective cases. If you are going to cover your beautiful phone in a crummy yellow plastic, it kind of defeats the purpose of the beautiful design.
I think I would rather use mine until it's beat to hell and then put a case over it to cover up the dings and marks.
I think I would rather use mine until it's beat to hell and then put a case over it to cover up the dings and marks.
07-01-2010, 01:00 PM
#3814
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^ I'm always in limbo about protective cases. If you are going to cover your beautiful phone in a crummy yellow plastic, it kind of defeats the purpose of the beautiful design.
I think I would rather use mine until it's beat to hell and then put a case over it to cover up the dings and marks.
I think I would rather use mine until it's beat to hell and then put a case over it to cover up the dings and marks.
but its gonna be a while before it comes in.
i did not choose nor buy the yellow craptastic cover...
ps. i dont buy my phones for their "beautiful designs"
i buy them for functionality... if you bought the phone b/c it was pretty, you should be put down...
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07-01-2010, 01:03 PM
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Which is why I love the bumpers, look good on the phone and has some half assed decent protection.
I just need some screen protectors for the back and front and I'm set.
Also already got a tiny tiny tiny scratch (you need the right angle in the right light to see it) on the screen
how i did it. Never dropped or shared pocket w/ keys 
I just need some screen protectors for the back and front and I'm set.
Also already got a tiny tiny tiny scratch (you need the right angle in the right light to see it) on the screen
how i did it. Never dropped or shared pocket w/ keys
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07-02-2010, 09:44 AM
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Apple: iPhone 4 reception problem is a software issue, fix coming in 'a few weeks'
Posted Jul 2nd 2010 8:32AM by Thomas Ricker
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Whoa, Apple just admitted that there's an issue with the iPhone 4's reception, but it might not be what you think:
Upon investigation, we were stunned to find that the formula we use to calculate how many bars of signal strength to display is totally wrong. Our formula, in many instances, mistakenly displays 2 more bars than it should for a given signal strength. For example, we sometimes display 4 bars when we should be displaying as few as 2 bars. Users observing a drop of several bars when they grip their iPhone in a certain way are most likely in an area with very weak signal strength, but they don't know it because we are erroneously displaying 4 or 5 bars. Their big drop in bars is because their high bars were never real in the first place.
To fix this, we are adopting AT&T's recently recommended formula for calculating how many bars to display for a given signal strength. The real signal strength remains the same, but the iPhone's bars will report it far more accurately, providing users a much better indication of the reception they will get in a given area. We are also making bars 1, 2 and 3 a bit taller so they will be easier to see.
We will issue a free software update within a few weeks that incorporates the corrected formula. Since this mistake has been present since the original iPhone, this software update will also be available for the iPhone 3GS and iPhone 3G.
Sure, the odd way Apple calculates bars has been noted before, but what's troubling is that this is the second time Apple has blamed signal strengh / reception issues on software and it doesn't fully explain calls dropping and data degradation when the iPhone 4 is held in a very particular (but common) way. It's also worth noting that Apple in no way admits to an antenna design flaw. Read the full press release after the break.
Posted Jul 2nd 2010 8:32AM by Thomas Ricker
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Whoa, Apple just admitted that there's an issue with the iPhone 4's reception, but it might not be what you think:
Upon investigation, we were stunned to find that the formula we use to calculate how many bars of signal strength to display is totally wrong. Our formula, in many instances, mistakenly displays 2 more bars than it should for a given signal strength. For example, we sometimes display 4 bars when we should be displaying as few as 2 bars. Users observing a drop of several bars when they grip their iPhone in a certain way are most likely in an area with very weak signal strength, but they don't know it because we are erroneously displaying 4 or 5 bars. Their big drop in bars is because their high bars were never real in the first place.
To fix this, we are adopting AT&T's recently recommended formula for calculating how many bars to display for a given signal strength. The real signal strength remains the same, but the iPhone's bars will report it far more accurately, providing users a much better indication of the reception they will get in a given area. We are also making bars 1, 2 and 3 a bit taller so they will be easier to see.
We will issue a free software update within a few weeks that incorporates the corrected formula. Since this mistake has been present since the original iPhone, this software update will also be available for the iPhone 3GS and iPhone 3G.
Sure, the odd way Apple calculates bars has been noted before, but what's troubling is that this is the second time Apple has blamed signal strengh / reception issues on software and it doesn't fully explain calls dropping and data degradation when the iPhone 4 is held in a very particular (but common) way. It's also worth noting that Apple in no way admits to an antenna design flaw. Read the full press release after the break.
Last edited by Mizouse; 07-02-2010 at 09:46 AM.
07-02-2010, 09:53 AM
#3819
Team Owner
Sounds like a load of crap to me, but we will see. Good thing Apple doesn't drill oil wells.
07-02-2010, 10:16 AM
#3820
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^ It's like buying at Lambo that only goes 35mph and says 180 on the speedo; the fix: replace the speedo with one that only goes to 35mph.
07-02-2010, 10:42 AM
#3821
Sanest Florida Man
Didn't Apple do the exact opposite with the iPhone 3G when people were claiming bad 3G coverage so Apple came out and said that they were under-reporting signal coverage and after a software update everyone go more bars. Now they're saying the exact opposite.
07-02-2010, 10:53 AM
#3822
Sanest Florida Man
Here's why some of you weren't able to replicate the death grip issue where you were located.
this is why I couldn't replicate the problem at work is cause the signal was so good that even with the attenuation caused by my hand I'm still getting a signal in the 5 bar range.
http://www.anandtech.com/show/3794/t...one-4-review/2
this is why I couldn't replicate the problem at work is cause the signal was so good that even with the attenuation caused by my hand I'm still getting a signal in the 5 bar range.
http://www.anandtech.com/show/3794/t...one-4-review/2
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07-02-2010, 10:54 AM
#3823
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that logic makes no sense...
if the antenna isnt the problem.. how come i can go from streaming high quality videos to "searching for signal" by touching the phone.. in the same exact position and place...
what a load of bullshit...
we bought the phone anyways apple.. just admit you fucked up..
ps. can anyone tell me if its better battery-wise to leave the phone on wifi signal or 3G when not in use?
does one take more "trying" than the other to stay connected?....
if the antenna isnt the problem.. how come i can go from streaming high quality videos to "searching for signal" by touching the phone.. in the same exact position and place...
what a load of bullshit...
we bought the phone anyways apple.. just admit you fucked up..
ps. can anyone tell me if its better battery-wise to leave the phone on wifi signal or 3G when not in use?
does one take more "trying" than the other to stay connected?....
Last edited by Rockstar21; 07-02-2010 at 10:56 AM.
07-02-2010, 11:09 AM
#3824
Sanest Florida Man
^I wouldn't bother switching settings. I'd turn wifi off though if you aren't using it and leave 3g on. I only turn 3g off if my battery is real low but this has much better battery life than my iPhone 3g so I haven't had to do that yet.
07-02-2010, 11:17 AM
#3825
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thanks, i havent come close to killing the battery yet, i've taken it off the charger every morning around 5.45 and when i go to bed at 10 p.m. or so it still has 40-50%.. just noticed i drained it a bit faster today with watching the world cup on mobiTV..
just wanted to know for the future if i could conserve it...
just wanted to know for the future if i could conserve it...
07-02-2010, 11:32 AM
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My coworker just got a iPhone 3Gs with 3.1.2 and bootroom 5.11.07, that's the one you can unlock right?
She got 2 16gb for $150..
She got 2 16gb for $150..
07-02-2010, 11:45 AM
#3827
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seen 3G's goin for 100...
people are panicking trying to sell their phones to buy the new one and prices are hitting rock bottom..
i saw two 32gb 3Gs for $250 the other day.
but i only need one
07-02-2010, 11:56 AM
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Hers is new from a AT&T store
07-02-2010, 12:29 PM
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07-02-2010, 12:30 PM
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Users observing a drop of several bars when they grip their iPhone in a certain way are most likely in an area with very weak signal strength, but they don't know it because we are erroneously displaying 4 or 5 bars. Their big drop in bars is because their high bars were never real in the first place.
07-02-2010, 12:31 PM
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07-02-2010, 12:32 PM
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What Stunna posted with th diagram makes sense and explains what apple said.
Just stop hating already, it's getting old...
Just stop hating already, it's getting old...
07-02-2010, 12:33 PM
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I'm swapping my 3gs for a brand new one Monday. A coworker knows someone at the Apple store 
I'm actually hoping it "fixes" the 3G issue I have, namely how, I can't use 3G anymore.
I'm actually hoping it "fixes" the 3G issue I have, namely how, I can't use 3G anymore.
07-02-2010, 12:33 PM
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07-02-2010, 12:36 PM
#3835
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My Best Buy has many cases and shields...
07-02-2010, 12:49 PM
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Try this srika, try restoring your current 3GS, of course backing it up
And then set it up as a new phone, try it and see if it helps, if not then you can easily restore back to your backup.
And then set it up as a new phone, try it and see if it helps, if not then you can easily restore back to your backup.
07-02-2010, 12:51 PM
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Or I'll give you my current 3GS so log as you can get me into the night clubs you goto in chiacgo 
07-02-2010, 12:53 PM
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07-02-2010, 12:55 PM
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why would I try any of that if I can get a new one? 
07-02-2010, 12:56 PM
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