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11-11-2011, 12:22 PM
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Every since upgrading to 5.0.1 I've been having issues connecting to a wifi network at work that I previously wasn't having issues with. This is happening on both my iPhone and iPad.
11-11-2011, 12:24 PM
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wtf.... there must be no quality control department at apple.
11-11-2011, 12:58 PM
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Pretty cool to update over wifi....it's the little things.
11-11-2011, 01:00 PM
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http://arstechnica.com/apple/news/20...some-users.ars
11-11-2011, 01:00 PM
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Android updates OTA. just sayin'
11-11-2011, 01:08 PM
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and? Iphone does too now
11-11-2011, 01:46 PM
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finally.
11-11-2011, 02:14 PM
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Exactly. Features like this should have been incorporated in a much earlier version, not on the 5th iteration. Don't get me wrong, I'm excited that it is finally there (better late than never). I just get annoyed at Apple when they leave out things that are so obviously useful and then when it is finally added it's considered revolutionary.
Now where's that 'tab' key on the iOS keyboard ...
Now where's that 'tab' key on the iOS keyboard ...
11-11-2011, 02:48 PM
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According to AllThingsD's John Paczkowski, Apple has just released the following statement regarding iPhone battery life in the just-released iOS 5.0.1 update:
The recent iOS software update addressed many of the battery issues that some customers experienced on their iOS 5 devices. We continue to investigate a few remaining issues.
What makes the statement interesting is that iOS 5.0.1 was ostensibly developed (and pushed out so quickly) primarily to solve battery complaints that had been coming from iOS 5 users on the iPhone 4 and 4S, so Cupertino still has a little bit of work to do. Is there an iOS 5.0.2 in our near future?
The recent iOS software update addressed many of the battery issues that some customers experienced on their iOS 5 devices. We continue to investigate a few remaining issues.
What makes the statement interesting is that iOS 5.0.1 was ostensibly developed (and pushed out so quickly) primarily to solve battery complaints that had been coming from iOS 5 users on the iPhone 4 and 4S, so Cupertino still has a little bit of work to do. Is there an iOS 5.0.2 in our near future?
http://www.theverge.com/2011/11/11/2...persist-in-ios
11-11-2011, 02:55 PM
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I don't know if my issue is related, but turns out I may not be alone...
http://arstechnica.com/apple/news/20...some-users.ars
http://arstechnica.com/apple/news/20...some-users.ars
11-11-2011, 03:27 PM
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Here is another one of those gotcha's that I wish Apple would have fixed long ago.
The passcode feature is great for securing your device from prying eyes. Makes you feel warm and fuzzy inside knowing that people can't view your content and use the apps on your phone. Then why is it that if passcode is enabled, iOS still displays texts, emails and other notifications as they come in on the lock screen!?!? You would think that since you've enabled passcode that you want your all of your information protected so that nobody can view them without unlocking the phone, but that is not the case...
They should have made it so that if you have passcode enabled, that generic messages are presented on the lock screen stating "email received", "text received", etc instead of displaying the actual message and information.
The passcode feature is great for securing your device from prying eyes. Makes you feel warm and fuzzy inside knowing that people can't view your content and use the apps on your phone. Then why is it that if passcode is enabled, iOS still displays texts, emails and other notifications as they come in on the lock screen!?!? You would think that since you've enabled passcode that you want your all of your information protected so that nobody can view them without unlocking the phone, but that is not the case...
They should have made it so that if you have passcode enabled, that generic messages are presented on the lock screen stating "email received", "text received", etc instead of displaying the actual message and information.
11-11-2011, 04:11 PM
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Goto your notifications and turn off "show preview" for email texts and whatever.
It won't show anything even if your phone is unlocked. It'll tell you "hey you got email"
It won't show anything even if your phone is unlocked. It'll tell you "hey you got email"
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11-11-2011, 04:19 PM
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Here is another one of those gotcha's that I wish Apple would have fixed long ago.
The passcode feature is great for securing your device from prying eyes. Makes you feel warm and fuzzy inside knowing that people can't view your content and use the apps on your phone. Then why is it that if passcode is enabled, iOS still displays texts, emails and other notifications as they come in on the lock screen!?!? You would think that since you've enabled passcode that you want your all of your information protected so that nobody can view them without unlocking the phone, but that is not the case...
They should have made it so that if you have passcode enabled, that generic messages are presented on the lock screen stating "email received", "text received", etc instead of displaying the actual message and information.
The passcode feature is great for securing your device from prying eyes. Makes you feel warm and fuzzy inside knowing that people can't view your content and use the apps on your phone. Then why is it that if passcode is enabled, iOS still displays texts, emails and other notifications as they come in on the lock screen!?!? You would think that since you've enabled passcode that you want your all of your information protected so that nobody can view them without unlocking the phone, but that is not the case...
They should have made it so that if you have passcode enabled, that generic messages are presented on the lock screen stating "email received", "text received", etc instead of displaying the actual message and information.
I don't use passcode and lots of my friends don't use passcode (maybe we don't handle very sensitive materials everyday) I trust my friends not to look into my texts or emails as I don't do with theirs..
In any case, if one is caring about securing iphone that they have to use passcode, I'm quite sure they disable preview message in the lockscreen anyways.. In fact, some people actually might prefer to enable preview with the passcode enabled. Who knows..?
I'm sure he knows about such a general feature
11-11-2011, 04:22 PM
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Maybe he doesn't...
11-11-2011, 04:24 PM
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11-11-2011, 04:27 PM
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You were right, I wasn't aware of that feature, I guess a better question is then why isn't this feature automatically tied to the enabling of the passcode feature because I feel they are so closely related that they should be presented to the user so that when they enable passcode, they are also asked if they want to enable this feature. Makes me wonder how many other people weren't aware of this feature even though they are so closely related.
11-11-2011, 04:30 PM
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Well yea it would be more convenient to enable it when you turn on the passcode. But maybe some people don't care to turn it on for everything? Like some people care more for email and texts but don't care for twitter/Facebook? 
11-11-2011, 04:30 PM
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ahhh nevermind, I was aware of that feature as I had used it to setup my notifications prior to enabling passcode. However, after enabling passcode I shouldn't have to go through ALL of the apps that use notification center and disable all of them. There should be one setting that I can toggle that enables previews or not if passcode is enabled. 
11-11-2011, 04:35 PM
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ahhh nevermind, I was aware of that feature as I had used it to setup my notifications prior to enabling passcode. However, after enabling passcode I shouldn't have to go through ALL of the apps that use notification center and disable all of them. There should be one setting that I can toggle that enables previews or not if passcode is enabled.
11-11-2011, 04:44 PM
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The 'view in lock screen' option is available for any application and if you have many apps, can be a pain having to go through all of them to disable. Sure you only need to do it when you enable/disable passcode, but still annoying nonetheless.
11-11-2011, 04:45 PM
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^^ the naming is why I got confused about this feature because I only remembered it as "view in lock screen" not "show preview" although they are one in the same.
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11-11-2011, 04:52 PM
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Just to be clear about this, my beef with this is that IMHO security trumps all. If you enable a security feature it should supercede any other setting you have on your phone. Lock it all down, THEN open up what you need/want to. The way it's set up now, there is no global governance once security is enabled for you to control previews from a security standpoint. If they simply had a "Allow Lock Screen Previews" within the passcode settings area I think that would solve the issue and train users to know that if passcode is enabled, this trumps all, and by default this should be set to "ON" when passcode is enabled.
Just one of the things I've learned from experience working on security applications at work.
Just one of the things I've learned from experience working on security applications at work.
11-11-2011, 05:12 PM
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Afterall, it's just a passcode for lockscreen.. It's not enabling privacy or raising the level of security.. If they were to do as you suggest, there should be much more to consider than just disabling display preview and such..
11-11-2011, 06:31 PM
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I have a passcode on my phone and I like have the previews of texts
11-11-2011, 08:34 PM
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ok guys ... i updated to 5.0.1 and rejailbroke. my cydia icon has been white and re-jailbreak/tethered boot would not fix the white icon...
i decided to try an untethered boot and my phone actually booted up...
Cydia is no longer white but it is crashing while opening, i think i may be on to something if i can fix the cydia crash
i decided to try an untethered boot and my phone actually booted up...
Cydia is no longer white but it is crashing while opening, i think i may be on to something if i can fix the cydia crash
11-11-2011, 08:55 PM
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11-11-2011, 08:57 PM
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And to be honest there isnt much more they would need to do to protect the phone if passcode is enabled. It is one of the trump all security measures to protect data in case the phone is lost or stolen right next to being able to remotely wiping the device.
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11-11-2011, 09:03 PM
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And thats fine. different people and businesses have differernt needs. my work has a policy in place that all thier phones must have passcode enabled and they manage/enforce that with a remote configuration so that people can't change that setting. and if you add your work exchange account to your personal phone they enforce that same policy on your personal device. this is one example that I feel the option to disable previews should be allowed and only show simple notifications, ie. 'text received', 'email received', etc. to further protect their data.
I dont understand what the issue is with having a security option that supercedes the individual apps notification preferences for previews. if this phone is used in corporate environments or by those that want extra security, its a win, and for those that don't need it what's the big deal if you can disable it.
I dont understand what the issue is with having a security option that supercedes the individual apps notification preferences for previews. if this phone is used in corporate environments or by those that want extra security, its a win, and for those that don't need it what's the big deal if you can disable it.
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11-11-2011, 09:16 PM
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11-11-2011, 09:19 PM
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wiping the phone after failed attempts is optional btw
but cydia will not work when booting un-tethered.
11-11-2011, 10:32 PM
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That's because there isn't an untethered jb out yet...
11-12-2011, 12:56 PM
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I think you guys missed the big caveat that comes with Semi-tethered JB which is you can't use mail, cydia or any of your JB apps in semi-tethered mode.
You install the semi-tethered JB in case your phone restarts and you're not near a computer to boot it back into tethered mode. It allows you to make phone calls and send texts and now you can use safari. It's an incase of emergency feature not a better jailbreak.
http://thebigboss.org/semitethered-jailbreak
You install the semi-tethered JB in case your phone restarts and you're not near a computer to boot it back into tethered mode. It allows you to make phone calls and send texts and now you can use safari. It's an incase of emergency feature not a better jailbreak.
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My iOS5 semitethered jailbreak package is ready for beta testing. What is semitethered jailbreak and why do you care? In short, it is protection for if your device reboots while you’re on the road. Read on.
As you may know, iOS5 currently has a tethered jailbreak. This means that after you have jailbroken and installed most stuff you care about, you go to reboot your device, and it will no longer boot. You will be either stuck at apple logo forever, or you will get to itunes restore screen. When this happens, you have to hook up to your computer and use redsn0w “just boot” feature which gets you rebooted successfully again. It’s not all bad, as iOS5 is pretty stable. But if your device crashes and reboots while you’re out on the road, you are screwed and without a phone until you get home.
An untethered jailbreak is one that does not have such problems. Here you can reboot and the device reboots successfully. Because we are using the limera1n exploit discovered from Geohot last year, we are always guaranteed a tethered jailbreak on last generation devices. A new exploit will need to be found to untether us.
To get us through this period, I have worked on a semi-tethered solution. The semi-tethered jailbreak will allow you to reboot on the road, but with limited functionality. It is enough that you are no longer stranded, and you can use your phone, text, and many other features. This is just until you get home and can use redsn0w again to “just boot tethered”. Once you do that, you’re back to fully functional state.
As you may know, iOS5 currently has a tethered jailbreak. This means that after you have jailbroken and installed most stuff you care about, you go to reboot your device, and it will no longer boot. You will be either stuck at apple logo forever, or you will get to itunes restore screen. When this happens, you have to hook up to your computer and use redsn0w “just boot” feature which gets you rebooted successfully again. It’s not all bad, as iOS5 is pretty stable. But if your device crashes and reboots while you’re out on the road, you are screwed and without a phone until you get home.
An untethered jailbreak is one that does not have such problems. Here you can reboot and the device reboots successfully. Because we are using the limera1n exploit discovered from Geohot last year, we are always guaranteed a tethered jailbreak on last generation devices. A new exploit will need to be found to untether us.
To get us through this period, I have worked on a semi-tethered solution. The semi-tethered jailbreak will allow you to reboot on the road, but with limited functionality. It is enough that you are no longer stranded, and you can use your phone, text, and many other features. This is just until you get home and can use redsn0w again to “just boot tethered”. Once you do that, you’re back to fully functional state.
11-12-2011, 07:59 PM
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i think you guys missed the point in MY post. I got my phone to boot UNTETHERED without installing semi-tether.
i also got my cydia icon to be correct instead of WHITE (not working) with my UNTETHERED BOOT.
i can make cydia work after an untethered booth but it requires ssh work so its a wash.
i also got my cydia icon to be correct instead of WHITE (not working) with my UNTETHERED BOOT.
i can make cydia work after an untethered booth but it requires ssh work so its a wash.
11-13-2011, 07:49 AM
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Here is another one of those gotcha's that I wish Apple would have fixed long ago.
The passcode feature is great for securing your device from prying eyes. Makes you feel warm and fuzzy inside knowing that people can't view your content and use the apps on your phone. Then why is it that if passcode is enabled, iOS still displays texts, emails and other notifications as they come in on the lock screen!?!? You would think that since you've enabled passcode that you want your all of your information protected so that nobody can view them without unlocking the phone, but that is not the case...
They should have made it so that if you have passcode enabled, that generic messages are presented on the lock screen stating "email received", "text received", etc instead of displaying the actual message and information.
The passcode feature is great for securing your device from prying eyes. Makes you feel warm and fuzzy inside knowing that people can't view your content and use the apps on your phone. Then why is it that if passcode is enabled, iOS still displays texts, emails and other notifications as they come in on the lock screen!?!? You would think that since you've enabled passcode that you want your all of your information protected so that nobody can view them without unlocking the phone, but that is not the case...
They should have made it so that if you have passcode enabled, that generic messages are presented on the lock screen stating "email received", "text received", etc instead of displaying the actual message and information.
Just move the View in Lock Screen slider to OFF in any application you don't want visible in the lock screen.
And in case you haven't noticed, yet, Reset Network Settings is mandatory for most of us after the 5.0.1 (small footprint, OTA) upgrade. (Regarding your WiFi connect issue. Most of us who used the small footprint OTA upgrade have had to Reset Network Settings.)
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