Apple: iPhone News and Discussion Thread
#3841
Otter boxes are
. Probably the best cases for protection. I noticed they don't have them out for the 4G yet, but they're working on it.
Makes the phone considerably more bulky, but I never worry about dropping it or anything like the such.
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Makes the phone considerably more bulky, but I never worry about dropping it or anything like the such.
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You've gotta introduce me to the chicks you know...
But who am I kidding, I'll just scare them away..
But who am I kidding, I'll just scare them away..
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^^ no problem
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#3846
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My graph shows the complete marketing bullshit that the 5 bars represent. Cellphones get a signal anywhere from -113db to -51db that's a 62db range. Now you would think that each bar would represent an equal range of that 62db about 12.5db each but no bullshit marketing comes in to play and the much desired 5th bar in AT&T's "more bars in more places" campaign doesn't equal 1/5th of the range or 12.5db like it should it represents 2/3rds of the range or 40db!!! Then that leaves the other 22db to be split up amongst the other 4 bars. The third bar for example gets just 2db.
This is the bullshit they pulled a few years back when people where not getting the "5 bars" so they just changed how it was calculated and gave the 5 bars almost the entire spectrum. So they duped the public and the people were like "ZOMG, I got 5 bars where I used to only have 3 bars, thank you Steve Jobs I want to suck your dick!! Teh iPhone is amazing!!" Now here they are saying the opposite, OMG I didn't know that the 5th bar took up 2/3rds of the spectrum!!" Whatever that's a bullshit lie and you know it!
Here's another graph
![](http://images.anandtech.com/reviews/gadgets/apple/iphone4/bars.jpg)
I'll use the school grading system as an analogy. In college it's
100-90 A
89-80 B
79-70 C
69-60 D
59-0 F
In AT&T and Apple's world they want to give everyone A's cause it makes their network and phone look good! So their grading scale is
100-37 A
36-19 B
18-17 C
16-10 D
9-0 F
Kinda hard to fail with grading scale like that!
I'm sure all the other carriers are like this to so you shouldn't trust the bars to give you accurate signal readout. they should switch to the number system but then they can't hide behind that.
This is the bullshit they pulled a few years back when people where not getting the "5 bars" so they just changed how it was calculated and gave the 5 bars almost the entire spectrum. So they duped the public and the people were like "ZOMG, I got 5 bars where I used to only have 3 bars, thank you Steve Jobs I want to suck your dick!! Teh iPhone is amazing!!" Now here they are saying the opposite, OMG I didn't know that the 5th bar took up 2/3rds of the spectrum!!" Whatever that's a bullshit lie and you know it!
Here's another graph
![](http://images.anandtech.com/reviews/gadgets/apple/iphone4/bars.jpg)
I'll use the school grading system as an analogy. In college it's
100-90 A
89-80 B
79-70 C
69-60 D
59-0 F
In AT&T and Apple's world they want to give everyone A's cause it makes their network and phone look good! So their grading scale is
100-37 A
36-19 B
18-17 C
16-10 D
9-0 F
Kinda hard to fail with grading scale like that!
I'm sure all the other carriers are like this to so you shouldn't trust the bars to give you accurate signal readout. they should switch to the number system but then they can't hide behind that.
Last edited by #1 STUNNA; 07-02-2010 at 01:41 PM.
#3847
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alright.. my other co worker got another iphone4.. so we are playing with the video calling in the office.. the video quality fking sucks.
#3848
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stunna please. quit with the hating. lets only talk about happy stuff in here. don't talk about the bad things. this is a Apple iphone happy discussion thread. ok thanks
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#3849
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and i don't get this..
my other co worker just went to AT&T store that's located within our building and just ordered his iphone4 2 days ago. he received it this morning.
now what i don't get is.. what are those people waiting in long ass line to get the phone?? why can't they just go to AT&T store to order it?
I'm just curious.
my other co worker just went to AT&T store that's located within our building and just ordered his iphone4 2 days ago. he received it this morning.
now what i don't get is.. what are those people waiting in long ass line to get the phone?? why can't they just go to AT&T store to order it?
I'm just curious.
#3850
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even though the video calling's quality is pretty bad.. it is definitely one of the coolest things i've ever seen.
no more cheating on someone with this shit
no more cheating on someone with this shit
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#3851
Sanest Florida Man
I guess that's what makes me a hater, I like to discuss the facts and not take marketing hype at face value.
I'm an Apple hater even though I've spent over $3000 on Apple products in the past 3 months.
Last edited by #1 STUNNA; 07-02-2010 at 01:37 PM.
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and i don't get this..
my other co worker just went to AT&T store that's located within our building and just ordered his iphone4 2 days ago. he received it this morning.
now what i don't get is.. what are those people waiting in long ass line to get the phone?? why can't they just go to AT&T store to order it?
I'm just curious.
my other co worker just went to AT&T store that's located within our building and just ordered his iphone4 2 days ago. he received it this morning.
now what i don't get is.. what are those people waiting in long ass line to get the phone?? why can't they just go to AT&T store to order it?
I'm just curious.
#3853
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ok.. changed my mind . I'm not posting it. its hilarious though. I think there's a good number of people that LIKE waiting in lines for Apple stuff, it must feel similar to standing in line for Communion or something.. .heh
#3854
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I'm just announcing the facts, how is that hating? I guess some times the truth hurts....
I guess that's what makes me a hater, I like to discuss the facts and not take marketing hype at face value.
I'm an Apple hater even though I've spent over $3000 on Apple products in the past 3 months.
I guess that's what makes me a hater, I like to discuss the facts and not take marketing hype at face value.
I'm an Apple hater even though I've spent over $3000 on Apple products in the past 3 months.
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#3856
Sanest Florida Man
#3857
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well, you quoted me....... ok whatever.
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#3859
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^ i have no idea, but it works. ![Shrug](https://acurazine.com/forums/images/smilies/shrug.gif)
i basically know nothing about how iphone works.
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i basically know nothing about how iphone works.
#3860
Карты убийцы
Honestly... Does anyone have buyers remorse? I'm about to pull the trigger in two weeks and it's down to the EVO, Droid X, and iPhone 4.
#3861
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I can pull the trigger on anything right now, but I have decided to wait for that Samsung phone that's coming out soon. I just hate AT&T.. so iphone4 is out for me.
Verizon FTW in the LA area.
Verizon FTW in the LA area.
#3862
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two of my co workers are completely satisfied with their new iphone4.. i like it alot too.
if it comes out with verizon, i would get it right away.
if it comes out with verizon, i would get it right away.
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#3863
Sanest Florida Man
I haven't decided if I'm going to keep the phone or not. If I took it back what other phone would I get, it's the best phone on the market spec wise. I got it for the screen and the camera and those are great, I don't want to lose those.
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Serious? The video quality when I used it was quite good.
It wasn't choppy and pretty smooth.
Of course it being a vgA camera, i wasnt expecting high def video..
It wasn't choppy and pretty smooth.
Of course it being a vgA camera, i wasnt expecting high def video..
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#3867
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why do you think you have to be on separate wifi?
agreed. i like the quality of facetime..
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I'm just announcing the facts, how is that hating? I guess some times the truth hurts....
I guess that's what makes me a hater, I like to discuss the facts and not take marketing hype at face value.
I'm an Apple hater even though I've spent over $3000 on Apple products in the past 3 months.
I guess that's what makes me a hater, I like to discuss the facts and not take marketing hype at face value.
I'm an Apple hater even though I've spent over $3000 on Apple products in the past 3 months.
#3869
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FaceTime doesn't connect phone to phone.
It goes from phone to apple server to phone.
It goes from phone to apple server to phone.
#3874
Sanest Florida Man
Which is why I suspect the next iPod touch and iPad will have FaceTime.
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#3875
#3877
Safety Car
did you guys see the update chase did??
you can deposit checks to your account without going to the bank..
basically, you take picture of the depositing check (front and back) and that's it!
too bad i don't have chase, but i can see my wellsfargo doing something similar in the near future
you can deposit checks to your account without going to the bank..
basically, you take picture of the depositing check (front and back) and that's it!
too bad i don't have chase, but i can see my wellsfargo doing something similar in the near future
#3878
Sanest Florida Man
about to head down the street to a spot that is known for having horrible reception on all carriers, lets see how this phone does....
#3879
Safety Car
i'm not sure exactly what happens behind the server, but you should use something less restrictive connection (ie. home ap)
it's clean and smooth for where i use...
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did you guys see the update chase did??
you can deposit checks to your account without going to the bank..
basically, you take picture of the depositing check (front and back) and that's it!
too bad i don't have chase, but i can see my wellsfargo doing something similar in the near future
you can deposit checks to your account without going to the bank..
basically, you take picture of the depositing check (front and back) and that's it!
too bad i don't have chase, but i can see my wellsfargo doing something similar in the near future
Forget the name thou.