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Old Oct 3, 2013 | 12:15 PM
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I had to turn iMessage off entirely. Any of the current fixes would not fix the horrible delay. Anyone else having that problem as well?

Also, LOL @ all the other manufacturers cheating on benchmarks. Everyone but Apple and Motorola. In that, LOL @ how Anand labeled that chart.
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Old Oct 3, 2013 | 12:16 PM
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Old Oct 3, 2013 | 12:22 PM
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Originally Posted by swoosh
^^^ just for future reference....if you drop the phone (or any electronic) in water, NEVER TURN IT ON !!!

when you turn it on, current passes through the circuitry which might short something since water conducts electricity....if it turns off, make sure the device is completely dry...a lot of peeps put the phone in a rice bag in the freezer...or just leave it outside over night....and then turn it on....
NEVER? SO why did my phone work when I turned it back on when I dropped it in the toilet? And it worked for four more years? All I did was shake it a few times after I retrieved it.
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Old Oct 3, 2013 | 12:24 PM
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Originally Posted by maharajamd
^Why not?
The ribbon and connectors on the MB are far too sensitive. Broke two already
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Old Oct 3, 2013 | 12:24 PM
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Jupiter....maybe you were quick enough to pick it out....maybe water did not enter the electricals....there are a lot of variables....

BUT IF the water was on the circuit board and you turned it on, I will assure you, you will fry the components
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Old Oct 3, 2013 | 12:25 PM
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Originally Posted by jupitersolo
NEVER? SO why did my phone work when I turned it back on when I dropped it in the toilet? And it worked for four more years? All I did was shake it a few times after I retrieved it.
You have magic pee.
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Old Oct 3, 2013 | 12:27 PM
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Originally Posted by Whiskers
The ribbon and connectors on the MB are far too sensitive. Broke two already
Is this something new with the 5S/C?

I've only taken apart a 4 and a 5 but I didn't have any problems.
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Old Oct 3, 2013 | 01:02 PM
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Originally Posted by swoosh
Jupiter....maybe you were quick enough to pick it out....maybe water did not enter the electricals....there are a lot of variables....

BUT IF the water was on the circuit board and you turned it on, I will assure you, you will fry the components :)
this, i did it with an old sony phone i had after being pushed into a pool, literally saw sparks fly.

but yes, if you were quick to take it out, you mightve gotten lucky.
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Old Oct 3, 2013 | 01:16 PM
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but Jupiter thinks am a troll and doesnt believe me....Thanks for the reassurance Miz, you have earned 1 noodz
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Old Oct 3, 2013 | 01:18 PM
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Look at the first couple minutes.

http://crave.cnet.co.uk/mobiles/gala...ideo-50011470/
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Old Oct 3, 2013 | 01:25 PM
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That's so dumb. See to me that merely implies the iPhone probably has better cooling...Lol
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Old Oct 3, 2013 | 01:31 PM
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Originally Posted by maharajamd
Is this something new with the 5S/C?

I've only taken apart a 4 and a 5 but I didn't have any problems.
Did many 4's and 4s' no problem. 5's hit or miss.
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Old Oct 3, 2013 | 01:37 PM
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Originally Posted by maharajamd
That's so dumb. See to me that merely implies the iPhone probably has better cooling...Lol
iirc, theres something built inside iPhones that shuts off the device when it detects water in an attempt to save the phone.
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Old Oct 3, 2013 | 03:55 PM
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Another reason why I want two-factor authorization, fingerprint + passcode option.
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Old Oct 4, 2013 | 09:21 AM
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Originally Posted by Mizouse
iirc, theres something built inside iPhones that shuts off the device when it detects water in an attempt to save the phone.
Yeah.. My wife dropped hers in a pool and it worked fine..

I screwed up by turning it back on... I didn't think that it turned off, i thought it went to sleep.. So I hit the top button and it turned back on.. Apple logo and all.. /facepalm.
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Old Oct 4, 2013 | 02:18 PM
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Voice of Siri

Voice of Siri comes out, ugly




http://www.cnn.com/2013/10/04/tech/m...s+(Top+Stories)
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Old Oct 4, 2013 | 02:25 PM
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I wish we could change the voice to custom ones. Like those tomtom GPS units.
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Old Oct 4, 2013 | 02:34 PM
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So I just had another bad experience with my iphone4....(someone tell me if this is the only way out)...

I had a PDF to sign, usually on my Note, I download it, sign it, email it using GMAIL....

with the Iphone4 running ios7, I downloaded the PDF, signed it....now it gets tricky. I dont have email setup, but I am running a GMAIL app (same as on the Note)....so I could not share the signed pdf...the only options to share were email and bump....

So I ended up downloading the Google Drive app, and went back to my signed pdf uploaded to Drive and then downloaded it on my work laptop....

is there another way of doing this for peeps who are using the gmail app as compared to the built in mail app?

with Android when I say "share" I can send via text/email/different email apps/bump/drive/dropbox/etc
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Old Oct 4, 2013 | 03:31 PM
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you could have also used the Dropbox app, uploaded it to your dropbox acct.
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Old Oct 4, 2013 | 03:32 PM
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Originally Posted by Mr Marco
As far as I'm concerned, she will always be the voice of Siri....





http://bigbangtheory.wikia.com/wiki/Siri
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Old Oct 4, 2013 | 03:38 PM
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Originally Posted by Mizouse
I wish we could change the voice to custom ones. Like those tomtom GPS units.
Loved the commercials for those... (those that haven't seen them, watch them to the end)


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Old Oct 4, 2013 | 03:40 PM
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Id do them both....
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Old Oct 4, 2013 | 03:46 PM
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Originally Posted by maharajamd
I had to turn iMessage off entirely. Any of the current fixes would not fix the horrible delay. Anyone else having that problem as well?
Yup, been having this issue for almost a week now. Started after the 7.0.2 update.
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Old Oct 4, 2013 | 04:28 PM
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Thanks Sly....yeah if I had the MAIL app configured, am pretty sure it would have not been an inconvenience but I hope Apple can expand the options it gives to share a file (like it gives options for an image)....
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Old Oct 4, 2013 | 04:51 PM
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Originally Posted by swoosh
Thanks Sly....yeah if I had the MAIL app configured, am pretty sure it would have not been an inconvenience but I hope Apple can expand the options it gives to share a file (like it gives options for an image)....
Their provided apps have a long way to go IMO. Ever notice how the Mail app doesn't allow you to forward multiple messages as an attachment? Hell, doesn't even offer the option to forward any email as an attachment, let alone multiple. You can't specify rules or custom actions to process messages as they come in or on demand. This isn't anything new, tools that all of us can greatly benefit from, but Apple has just ignored.

Ever notice how on the phone we have a stocks app, but after four iterations and a fifth on the way, we still don't have a stocks, and calculator app provided for the iPad.

Profiles! Profiles would be a god send for the iPhone. I love the Locale app for Android (https://play.google.com/store/apps/d...m.locale&hl=en). There is absolutely NO reason why something similar couldn't be made for iOS. I would love to have a feature where I could alter all of my notification, sounds, antenna, and various other settings by simply selecting a profile. This is not the same as airplane mode. Airplane mode is a variation of a profile, but only a very, VERY small subset of the potential of this feature. I've already shared this with my company's Apple Reps and they said they would look into it. Imagine location based profile setting. Location based silencing all phones when you walk into a movie theater anyone?

I don't understand how Apple can let so many inconsistencies, and substandard features slip by, for as long as they have. This is what has been, and is going to bite them in the butt. We've finally got some change going on now, I hope they keep it up and start innovating again rather than hyping up features that should have been there a long time ago ... *** COUGH *** notification center *** COUGH.
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Old Oct 4, 2013 | 05:09 PM
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Thanks Sly....

you spoke my mind
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Old Oct 4, 2013 | 05:24 PM
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Originally Posted by Mr Marco
Wow, i had a feeling Siri was gay.
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Old Oct 4, 2013 | 05:26 PM
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Originally Posted by swoosh
Thanks Sly....

you spoke my mind
Great Anils think alike.
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Old Oct 4, 2013 | 05:31 PM
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Don't think anyone bought a 5C here, but if you did I'd see about getting a price adjustment.

iPhone 5C goes on sale at more retailers, drops to $45 on contract at Walmart

Apple released the iPhone 5C just two weeks ago, but retailers continue to cut the price of the more affordable iPhone. Starting today, Walmart is dropping the 16GB iPhone 5C to $45 when purchased with a two-year contract. The promotion will last until the end of the holiday season, a spokesperson tells The Wall Street Journal. The news comes less than a day after Best Buy announced a promotion through October 7th that allows customers who purchase the phone for $99 to receive a $50 gift card good towards the purchase — effectively cutting the price of the phone in half. RadioShack has now matched that deal; the offer ends November 2nd. One other iPhone 5C deal of note is Sprint's offer to new customers. The carrier is offering the phone for free on contract if you switch.

The iPhone 5C is largely identical to the iPhone 5, which it replaced. It lacks the processing power boost and improved camera introduced in the iPhone 5S, and it doesn't have a Touch ID fingerprint sensor. While these sales make the 5C more appealing to customers in the US looking for a cheaper iPhone, they do not address the primary complaint that the iPhone 5C, at $549, is too expensive off contract for it to effectively compete with cheap Android smartphones abroad.

http://www.theverge.com/2013/10/4/48...-45-at-walmart
5C sales must be bad if they're discounting so soon.

Anyone know Apple's margins on the 5C and 5S and how it compares with the 5?
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Old Oct 4, 2013 | 05:57 PM
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It was like a 50-60 dollar difference for the parts. IIRC
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Old Oct 4, 2013 | 07:39 PM
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Originally Posted by Sly Raskal
Yup, been having this issue for almost a week now. Started after the 7.0.2 update.
So what's going on here? I think my friend is having this issue. Is there a delay in receiving texts from people? Is it just iMessage or SMS too?
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Old Oct 4, 2013 | 07:57 PM
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My iPad was having trouble iMessage, but after the update yesterday, stared working fine.
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Old Oct 4, 2013 | 11:11 PM
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Originally Posted by #1 STUNNA
So what's going on here? I think my friend is having this issue. Is there a delay in receiving texts from people? Is it just iMessage or SMS too?
I can receive just fine, the problem is that I can't send any messages via iMessage. I can only send message via the standard 'text message' method.
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Old Oct 4, 2013 | 11:13 PM
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Originally Posted by jupitersolo
My iPad was having trouble iMessage, but after the update yesterday, stared working fine.
There was an update yesterday? I heard they were testing 7.0.3, but didn't hear anything about it being released.
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Old Oct 4, 2013 | 11:38 PM
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yeah i got one on the iPad yesterday. I think it was just what was released on the iPhone a few days ago.
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Old Oct 4, 2013 | 11:45 PM
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Originally Posted by #1 STUNNA
yeah i got one on the iPad yesterday. I think it was just what was released on the iPhone a few days ago.
??

The 7.0.2 update was released last week for both iphone and ipad. Are you saying your ipad only saw the update yesterday?
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Old Oct 4, 2013 | 11:51 PM
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pretty sure I checked the ipad last week and it wasn't there. It might've been up a few days ago and I just didn't get the notice until today.
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Old Oct 5, 2013 | 11:57 AM
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The 7.0.2 update was released last week for both iphone and ipad. Are you saying your ipad only saw the update yesterday?
Mine only saw it two days ago. Maybe it was Wednesday night and I didn't updated until morning.
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The iPhone 5S Motion Sensors Are Totally Screwed Up



Since the iPhone 5S landed in the hands of new owners a few weeks ago, there have been reports that on-board sensors like the gyroscope, compass, and accelerometer haven't been working properly on some devices. We've confirmed the new iPhone's failings on our own. It's not just off. It's embarrassing.

We tested two iPhone 5S units running the latest version of iOS 7 against the iPhone 5, as well as against real-world measuring tools to find out if the new iPhone's sensors are off, and if they are, by how much. In most cases, we used the iPhone's built-in iOS 7 apps for measurements, working under the assumption that Apple would properly calibrate its hardware to work with the software of its own design. We were wrong.

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In the GIF and still image above, you see a pretty dramatic illustration of the difference between the iPhone 5S internal inclinometer readings and a real measurement of inclination. A simple Stanley spirit level tells the whole story: The iPhone 5S level readout in the iOS 7 compass software read 2-3 degrees off in our tests, while other users are reporting that the level is off by as many as 4-6 degrees. We performed the same test with an iPhone 5, and readout was almost perfect, indicating that hardware is at least partly the culprit. That also means a fix might not be as easy as an OTA firmware update.



We also tested the level using the free iHandy Level app to similar results. In all cases, we were sure to keep the side of the iPhone flush to the level.

Two degrees might not seem like much, but it's actually a reasonably big deal. If you use this level to set up shelves (or tackle any other home improvement gig) you'd end up with a mess.

Gyroscope



As with the simple inclinometer measurements, the iPhone 5S gyroscope readings show a discrepancy between the iPhone 5 and iPhone 5S. This shouldn't be a surprise since it's the same piece of hardware as the inclinometer, just with an added third dimension. Above is what happened when I tossed both phones on a level table. The iPhone 5 reads level, while the iPhone 5S reads -3 degrees off level.



Why does this matter? Because a wonky gyroscope is going to totally screw up gaming. Check out the drift when I'm playing EA's Real Racing 3. The green light flashes, the car goes left. The phone is still and level.

Compass



The compass is a little more challenging to test, because the numbers on both the iPhone 5 and iPhone 5S tended to jump around bit. After getting the readings steady, though the two phones consistently measured 8-10 degrees apart. It's also worth noting that on the iPhone 5S, the compass application was prone to either freezing up or giving wonky readings that could only be fixed by killing and restarting the app.



When comparing the measurements against an actual compass, neither iPhone's compass points to the same magnetic north as the real tool; however, the iPhone 5 clearly has a more accurate measurement.

This compass shortfall won't have you confusing east from west when you get out of the subway. But for more detailed mapping and way-finding apps, a 10 degrees disparity could impact what an app thinks you're doing and which way you're going. You probably shouldn't be using an iPhone compass to navigate the woods or set your course at sea anyway—but, yeah, don't do that.

Accelerometer



We did a brief test on the new iPhone's accelerometer data, and preliminary results seem to indicate that the 5S is registering way more latent motion than the iPhone 5. The above images show the readouts from the accelerometers of both phones sitting flat on a level desk. Our testing isn't conclusive here, but it's worth noting because the discrepancy is in line with those seen in tests of the other sensors.


Again, you can expect this to screw up gaming as well as readings on motion-based exercise apps, an especially unfortunate byproduct given how heavily Apple hyped its activity-tracking M7 processor (more on the hardware implications below).

What's going on, and what's the fix?

The faulty measurements from the iPhone 5S could either be a hardware problem or a software problem, and if you read through the experiences of users in the extensive MacRumors thread on the topic, there's an argument to be made for both.

The problem seems to be incredibly widespread, but it also affects different phones in different ways. If it were consistent across the board—for example if the compass was 2-degrees off for everyone—then it would be easier to pin the blame on iOS 7. The solution to the current sensor woes, then, could be as simple as a firmware fix to make the calibration more accurate.

As richard371 in the MacRumors thread points out, though, the inconsistency of the problem suggests—and the fact that it doesn't show up on an iPhone 5 running iOS 7—that the hardware isn't being properly calibrated in the factory, and that means that there are millions of phones out there that might never be exactly right. That's a huge problem. (Some users have reportedly had luck taking their phones back and swapping them for others—but just as many users report making the exchange and getting another malfunctioning unit.)

If it's indeed an underlying hardware problem, Apple will probably quietly resolve the issue with a tweak on future production units of the 5S, which still leaves millions of potentially defective units in circulation. It's possible that Apple could push a calibration tool or software fix that accounts for the inconsistent hardware performance in existing handsets, but it's very unlikely that the company will take all of these phones back (or that enough people will notice/care enough to get a new one.

Either way, it's a problem, whether you're a gamer, a home-improver, or someone who just wants their phone to work as advertised out of the box.
http://gizmodo.com/the-iphone-5s-mot...-up-1440286727

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Old Oct 5, 2013 | 03:43 PM
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