MLB: 2008 Season Discussion Thread...
07-31-2008, 04:20 PM
#841
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Originally Posted by IlliNorge
Manny will fit right into the laid back scene in LA. Probably arrive in the 3rd inning just like the crowd too.
So, who wants to wager he'll mysteriously not feel well when the Dodgers have to face an ace pitcher (i.e. Webb, Zambrano, Sabathia, Sheets, etc.)...?
07-31-2008, 04:22 PM
#842
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Originally Posted by IlliNorge
Manny will fit right into the laid back scene in LA. Probably arrive in the 3rd inning just like the crowd too.
The lines at Phillipe's are long, so it takes a little longer to make it to the stadium.Acuatally, I have only been to a few Dodger games, but I always seem to go to Phillipe's on game day and the place is packed with fans in Dodger Blue.
*Phillipe's is a local eatery specializing in French Dip sandwiches
07-31-2008, 05:12 PM
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Originally Posted by fuzzy02CLS
That's a weird thing to think about. Joe Torre managing the dodgers, & Manny playing for him????
Wow. At least The Yankees won't have to deal with him punishing our team anymore.
Wow. At least The Yankees won't have to deal with him punishing our team anymore.
07-31-2008, 05:33 PM
#846
Originally Posted by fuzzy02CLS
That's a weird thing to think about. Joe Torre managing the dodgers, & Manny playing for him????
Wow. At least The Yankees won't have to deal with him punishing our team anymore.
Wow. At least The Yankees won't have to deal with him punishing our team anymore.
07-31-2008, 06:19 PM
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Originally Posted by jlukja
^^
WRONG!
I'll have you know the Dodgers are a whopping ONE game over .500.
WRONG!
I'll have you know the Dodgers are a whopping ONE game over .500.
I still cant believe they got manny
07-31-2008, 06:37 PM
#850
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Hello LA, enjoy your new cancer. Make sure you tell the travelling secretary to get Manny all the tickets he wants or else.
It's really weird to see the way Boston has turned on him with his latest rounds of nonsense. The biggest problem with Manny is that he doesn't actually like the game of baseball. He just likes to hit, he doesn't like to run, he doesn't like to field.
He's definitely not the greatest or even one of the greatest baseball players ever to wear the Red Sox uniform, but he's definitely one of the greatest hitters.
Thanks for the 2 championships but it's time to move on.
It's really weird to see the way Boston has turned on him with his latest rounds of nonsense. The biggest problem with Manny is that he doesn't actually like the game of baseball. He just likes to hit, he doesn't like to run, he doesn't like to field.
He's definitely not the greatest or even one of the greatest baseball players ever to wear the Red Sox uniform, but he's definitely one of the greatest hitters.
Thanks for the 2 championships but it's time to move on.
07-31-2008, 06:58 PM
#852
Originally Posted by black label
Hello LA, enjoy your new cancer.
Its going to be fun seeing how Man Ram and Jeff Kent 'get along'.
07-31-2008, 07:59 PM
#854
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Sox are going to regret letting him go... Ortiz has no protection now...
07-31-2008, 08:00 PM
#855
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Originally Posted by IlliNorge
Manny will fit right into the laid back scene in LA. Probably arrive in the 3rd inning just like the crowd too.
and leave by the 7th...
07-31-2008, 08:34 PM
#856
Originally Posted by savage
and leave by the 7th...
07-31-2008, 10:38 PM
#857
My Garage
Originally Posted by savage
Sox are going to regret letting him go... Ortiz has no protection now...
Bay is having a better year than Manny, and yea Drew and Youk are pathetic
07-31-2008, 10:49 PM
#858
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Originally Posted by bgsm1th
He won't play for them tonight, will he? 
I know I'll be there.
And yes, Livan needs to hang up his cleats.
I know I'll be there.
And yes, Livan needs to hang up his cleats.
Looking back over those 4 games, the White Sox are the whiniest team in the majors, bar none. It starts with the classless announcers always picking on the umps, and it trickles down to the players showing up the home plate ump game in and game out. Konerko, Thome, Dye, Swisher, Crede, even the backups like Wise, always pouting about close strike calls. And you know Guillen is chirping in off-color Spanglish the whole game. Between all the bitching, it's no wonder they don't get any favors from the umps.
07-31-2008, 11:04 PM
#859
Drifting
It was a lose, lose for the Sox. No way they could get a player of Manny's caliber in return. Probably hoping for an addition by subtraction, which just isnt the case.
Dodgers still won't make the playoffs
Dodgers still won't make the playoffs
08-01-2008, 08:36 AM
#861
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Originally Posted by GIBSON6594
dumb post of the year..
Bay is having a better year than Manny, and yea Drew and Youk are pathetic
Bay is having a better year than Manny, and yea Drew and Youk are pathetic
true, but I believe most teams would still walk Ortiz in a close game to get to any of those guys unless they are on some hot streak...
08-01-2008, 09:02 AM
#862
Team Owner
I think Boston made out fine. They get Bay who is in his prime and has a reasonable 2 yr contract left over. Sure they lost a great player in Manny but distractions sometimes hurt a team. Bay was able to produce before this year in some pretty weak Pirate clubs. Imagine in what he'll do in this lineup. Plus Lowell has been hurt and in a nasty slump right now. Welcome to the postseason Bay. 
The Dodgers are overloaded at OF. Maybe they'll just cut Andruw Jones and cut their losses? But yeah, Ethier, Manny, Pierre, Kemp, and Jones are too many chefs. Well if they make the WS, at least they'll have their DH.
Loney is a steady hitter (around .300 all year), Martin is good, Casey Blake is has decent power 17/58. I think this was a good move for them since they lacked power.
The Dodgers are overloaded at OF. Maybe they'll just cut Andruw Jones and cut their losses? But yeah, Ethier, Manny, Pierre, Kemp, and Jones are too many chefs. Well if they make the WS, at least they'll have their DH.
Loney is a steady hitter (around .300 all year), Martin is good, Casey Blake is has decent power 17/58. I think this was a good move for them since they lacked power.
08-01-2008, 09:59 AM
#863
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Originally Posted by Doom878
I think Boston made out fine. They get Bay who is in his prime and has a reasonable 2 yr contract left over. Sure they lost a great hitter in Manny but distractions sometimes hurt a team. Bay was able to produce before this year in some pretty weak Pirate clubs. Imagine in what he'll do in this lineup. Plus Lowell has been hurt and in a nasty slump right now. Welcome to the postseason Bay.
Manny was not and is not and never will be a great player, all he does is hit the ball (extremely well).
08-01-2008, 10:03 AM
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I'd take Bay over Manny any day. You get a younger player who wants to play the game, better at defense and faster. He may not hit for power nearly as much, but he is much less of a liability. Imagine if it's the WS, 1 out and nobody on, losing 3-0, and Manny comes up, grounds to 3rd, and doesn't run it out. Jason Bay will run it out, and there is a 10% chance that throw may be wild or late. I'll take JB.
08-01-2008, 11:48 AM
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Originally Posted by gocubsgo55
I'd take Bay over Manny any day. You get a younger player who wants to play the game, better at defense and faster. He may not hit for power nearly as much, but he is much less of a liability. Imagine if it's the WS, 1 out and nobody on, losing 3-0, and Manny comes up, grounds to 3rd, and doesn't run it out. Jason Bay will run it out, and there is a 10% chance that throw may be wild or late. I'll take JB.
08-01-2008, 12:16 PM
#866
My Garage
Originally Posted by black label
Fixed
Manny was not and is not and never will be a great player, all he does is hit the ball (extremely well).
Manny was not and is not and never will be a great player, all he does is hit the ball (extremely well).
08-01-2008, 12:24 PM
#867
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Originally Posted by GIBSON6594
He's a Hall of Famer
08-01-2008, 12:27 PM
#868
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Originally Posted by black label
Future hall of famer for his hitting prowess and nothing else. If charecter and sportsmanship were requirements, no amount of homers or RBI's would get him in.
/discussion
08-01-2008, 12:27 PM
#869
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Actually the HOF for baseball does factor in character and sportsmanship. It's partially why McGwire didn't get in this year some say. But do you guys really think Manny won't run out a grounder in the WS?
08-01-2008, 12:58 PM
#870
Originally Posted by Yumchah
Depends on how you look at it...Griffey Jr. is not the player he used to be. Not by a stretch. His mobility is non-existent due to all the back-breaking injuries he's gone through...
Does that mean this is a terrible trade for the ChiSox? I dunno...I don't think Williams gave up that much in Richar and Masset. And there's a good chance Griffey may have a renaissance as he's finally on a contending team instead of some BOTTOM-DWELLING STINKER OF A TEAM KNOWN AS THE CINCY REDS (y'hear that, Scottfart111...?!?!??)...
So, I don't think this would hurt the ChiSox and if anything Griffey is an upgrade over Paulie's struggles at the plate and would give the team a chance to platoon him and Swisher at 1st.
Of course, I'd be much more giddy if Williams got a nice pitcher...but, ah well.
Does that mean this is a terrible trade for the ChiSox? I dunno...I don't think Williams gave up that much in Richar and Masset. And there's a good chance Griffey may have a renaissance as he's finally on a contending team instead of some BOTTOM-DWELLING STINKER OF A TEAM KNOWN AS THE CINCY REDS (y'hear that, Scottfart111...?!?!??)...
So, I don't think this would hurt the ChiSox and if anything Griffey is an upgrade over Paulie's struggles at the plate and would give the team a chance to platoon him and Swisher at 1st.
Of course, I'd be much more giddy if Williams got a nice pitcher...but, ah well.
We only suck because of Dusty Baker. We'll be good when he's gone...you wait and see
08-01-2008, 12:59 PM
#871
Originally Posted by jlukja
Logjam in the Dodger outfield just got worse. Manny and Kemp will play full time. What will they do with Ethier, Jones, and Juan Pierre?
I would cut Jones and Pierre. Both are old and worthless. The young guys need the playing time.
08-01-2008, 01:00 PM
#872
Originally Posted by CarbonGray Earl
It was either him or Ron Artest to the lakers.
Its going to be fun seeing how Man Ram and Jeff Kent 'get along'.
Its going to be fun seeing how Man Ram and Jeff Kent 'get along'.
I hope they claw each other's eye's out 
08-01-2008, 01:01 PM
#873
Originally Posted by IlliNorge
I'll bet that was a fun one.
Looking back over those 4 games, the White Sox are the whiniest team in the majors, bar none. It starts with the classless announcers always picking on the umps, and it trickles down to the players showing up the home plate ump game in and game out. Konerko, Thome, Dye, Swisher, Crede, even the backups like Wise, always pouting about close strike calls. And you know Guillen is chirping in off-color Spanglish the whole game. Between all the bitching, it's no wonder they don't get any favors from the umps.
Looking back over those 4 games, the White Sox are the whiniest team in the majors, bar none. It starts with the classless announcers always picking on the umps, and it trickles down to the players showing up the home plate ump game in and game out. Konerko, Thome, Dye, Swisher, Crede, even the backups like Wise, always pouting about close strike calls. And you know Guillen is chirping in off-color Spanglish the whole game. Between all the bitching, it's no wonder they don't get any favors from the umps.
It's a close race as to who I hate most in baseball between him and Kent, but I think he pulls ahead
08-01-2008, 02:24 PM
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Originally Posted by GIBSON6594
Bay is having a better year than Manny
yeah not really.. stats are nearly identical
but the real difference comes in clutch situations.. Bay is hitting .216 with RISP compared to Manny's .309. Pitchers will gladly walk Ortiz to get to Bay.
It's a drop off anyway you look at it... how much we'll have to see.
08-03-2008, 04:25 PM
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Originally Posted by gocubsgo55
I knew this was coming, the Cubs do horrible against a brand new pitcher. But oh well, just win the next 2.
Wow, who knew I'd be going for the Sox??
08-03-2008, 05:13 PM
#879
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Originally Posted by gocubsgo55
Yeah, we'll win the next 2. Oh, and congrats to the Twins, enjoy 1st place for the mean time, because the Sox (and Tigers) are much more loaded than you guys are.
I was going to post something obnoxious about being in first place, but you surpassed anything I could have written.
08-03-2008, 05:55 PM
#880
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Originally Posted by IlliNorge
Yes, the White Sox were more loaded in 2002, 2003, 2004, and 2006 also. You just showed everyone that a Chicago team is once again underachieving for the fifth time in the last seven years while the Twins will win the division.
I was going to post something obnoxious about being in first place, but you surpassed anything I could have written.
I was going to post something obnoxious about being in first place, but you surpassed anything I could have written.
ChiSox will reclaim first...
