Major League Baseball Thread 2006 Season
05-28-2006, 08:49 PM
#561
Originally Posted by GreenMonster
Someone had the ball in their hands, but didn't keep a handle on it... wonder who got it...
Now that he's beat the white guy, I hope he retires
Now that he's beat the white guy, I hope he retires
05-29-2006, 01:22 PM
#563
Senior Moderator
Hrmm...the Yanks are playing the Central leading Tigers who are in front of my ChiSox...and I'm cheering for the Tigers? 
GO TIGERS!
And of course, GO CHISOX! Up 7-0 on the Indians (who some have picked to finish first
)...
GO TIGERS!
And of course, GO CHISOX! Up 7-0 on the Indians (who some have picked to finish first
)...
05-30-2006, 09:42 AM
#565
Senior Moderator
Originally Posted by gocubsgo55
^ and Go Jays, and Go Cubs, JEEZ pick a friggen team, swinger!
-ian sports team (for evidence, refer to the other sports threads like NHL and NBA)...I stick to my Chicago roots and cheer for Windy City teams only.
05-30-2006, 10:11 AM
#566
Tristate ViP Crew
Originally Posted by fuzzy02CLS
The replay shows no one. The ball fell into the unmaned scoreboard area.
05-30-2006, 10:35 AM
#568
Tristate ViP Crew
Originally Posted by Always Dirty
Retire on a ball hit by a cheater that didn't even move him into first place, just into #2 all time (and he isn't going to ever get to #1)? Not likely.
05-30-2006, 11:02 AM
#569
Senior Moderator
Originally Posted by CL Platano
Some fool paid 3 million for McGwire's 70th HR ball, so I don't see a problem someone paying that much for Bond's 2nd place ball especially in the Bay Area.
Maybe the Cheat's ball will fetch up to 5 digits. But, no way in the millions. I'd say over/under $20K.
05-30-2006, 01:20 PM
#571
Senior Moderator
Originally Posted by Black CL-S 4-Life
Way to go Barry! 
05-30-2006, 01:34 PM
#574
Originally Posted by Yumchah
Should that be in red or are you seriously happy for Barry...?
05-30-2006, 02:24 PM
#575
Team Owner
Originally Posted by GIBSON6594
For those that care, the Mets have put Nady on the DL and brought up the future...Lastings Milledge 
05-30-2006, 03:10 PM
#576
My Garage
Originally Posted by Doom878
I read in TSN that he was being dangled for trade bait. Let's see how he is.
05-30-2006, 05:07 PM
#578
My Garage
Originally Posted by Doom878
I read he started rough and was batting .290 in the minors. How was he in the minors per your sources?
05-30-2006, 06:14 PM
#579
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Thread Starter
Milledge probably isn't going to go anywhere, but anytime a big trade is mentioned w/ the Mets his name always comes up... Like when there were Manny Ramirez rumors...
But the Red Sox said that Hanley Ramirez was untouchable, and look where he is now
But the Red Sox said that Hanley Ramirez was untouchable, and look where he is now
05-31-2006, 08:00 AM
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There always seems to be a contradiction of sorts when it comes to big-time prospects/rookies. The Mets have the mindset and payroll to win NOW, not the future. They have a great core of experienced players (Pedro, Glavine, Delgado, Floyd, Beltran, Wagner, LoDuca, etc.) integrated with some of the best young talent in the game (Wright, Reyes, etc.). SO WHAT ARE THEY WAITING FOR. Milledge is a great, albeit unproven talent. Remember Ruben Mateo? Josh Hamilton? Carlos Pena? All can't-miss prospects who didn't pan out.
So if the likes of Billy Beane wants Milledge in exhange for the likes of a proven commodity like Barry Zito, how can Omar not pull the trigger? How can he rationalize this by saying, "We want to keep Milledge and build for the future." It doesn't make sense. Where's the urgency? The Mets mentality should be to win NOW. If Zito bolsters the opportunity for the Mets to make the playoffs and succeed in the postseason, it's a no-brainer to get him. For the most part, baseball is no longer a value-oriented, wait-and-see game. It mostly revolves around large market teams bringing in an endless stream of hired guns. The Mets have actively engaged in this high-risk, high-reward style for years. So why stop now?
The Mets' pitching staff is not getting any younger. How much does Glavine and Pedro have in the tank? Even assuming that they will perform at high levels at season's end (let alone 2007 and beyond) is dangerous. They need another frontline starter.
So if the likes of Billy Beane wants Milledge in exhange for the likes of a proven commodity like Barry Zito, how can Omar not pull the trigger? How can he rationalize this by saying, "We want to keep Milledge and build for the future." It doesn't make sense. Where's the urgency? The Mets mentality should be to win NOW. If Zito bolsters the opportunity for the Mets to make the playoffs and succeed in the postseason, it's a no-brainer to get him. For the most part, baseball is no longer a value-oriented, wait-and-see game. It mostly revolves around large market teams bringing in an endless stream of hired guns. The Mets have actively engaged in this high-risk, high-reward style for years. So why stop now?
The Mets' pitching staff is not getting any younger. How much does Glavine and Pedro have in the tank? Even assuming that they will perform at high levels at season's end (let alone 2007 and beyond) is dangerous. They need another frontline starter.
05-31-2006, 08:17 AM
#583
My Garage
Originally Posted by GreenMonster
How's that working out for him 
05-31-2006, 08:52 AM
#584
My Garage
Originally Posted by PillsburyChoboy
There always seems to be a contradiction of sorts when it comes to big-time prospects/rookies. The Mets have the mindset and payroll to win NOW, not the future. They have a great core of experienced players (Pedro, Glavine, Delgado, Floyd, Beltran, Wagner, LoDuca, etc.) integrated with some of the best young talent in the game (Wright, Reyes, etc.). SO WHAT ARE THEY WAITING FOR. Milledge is a great, albeit unproven talent. Remember Ruben Mateo? Josh Hamilton? Carlos Pena? All can't-miss prospects who didn't pan out.
So if the likes of Billy Beane wants Milledge in exhange for the likes of a proven commodity like Barry Zito, how can Omar not pull the trigger? How can he rationalize this by saying, "We want to keep Milledge and build for the future." It doesn't make sense. Where's the urgency? The Mets mentality should be to win NOW. If Zito bolsters the opportunity for the Mets to make the playoffs and succeed in the postseason, it's a no-brainer to get him. For the most part, baseball is no longer a value-oriented, wait-and-see game. It mostly revolves around large market teams bringing in an endless stream of hired guns. The Mets have actively engaged in this high-risk, high-reward style for years. So why stop now?
The Mets' pitching staff is not getting any younger. How much does Glavine and Pedro have in the tank? Even assuming that they will perform at high levels at season's end (let alone 2007 and beyond) is dangerous. They need another frontline starter.
So if the likes of Billy Beane wants Milledge in exhange for the likes of a proven commodity like Barry Zito, how can Omar not pull the trigger? How can he rationalize this by saying, "We want to keep Milledge and build for the future." It doesn't make sense. Where's the urgency? The Mets mentality should be to win NOW. If Zito bolsters the opportunity for the Mets to make the playoffs and succeed in the postseason, it's a no-brainer to get him. For the most part, baseball is no longer a value-oriented, wait-and-see game. It mostly revolves around large market teams bringing in an endless stream of hired guns. The Mets have actively engaged in this high-risk, high-reward style for years. So why stop now?
The Mets' pitching staff is not getting any younger. How much does Glavine and Pedro have in the tank? Even assuming that they will perform at high levels at season's end (let alone 2007 and beyond) is dangerous. They need another frontline starter.
As geared to win now as the Mets are, they are also geared for the future. Beltran just turned 29, Nady is only 27. Wright, Reyes, Milledge and Mike Pelfrey are all under 24. They have another kid named Gomez who isn't near ready, but apparently puts Milledge to shame. They don't want a repeat of the Kazmir deal and would rather take the chance with Millege. Maybe he will turn out like Wright did
05-31-2006, 11:43 AM
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It's official Clemens rejoins the Astros
Rocket re-launch: Clemens rejoins Astros
ESPN.com news services
HOUSTON -- Roger Clemens is coming out of retirement for the third time, agreeing to a $22 million contract to pitch for the Houston Astros for the rest of 2006.
The 43-year-old Clemens, who will be entering his 23rd major league season, is agreeing first to a minor league contract that pays $322,000 over the five-month minor league season, and his first start is likely to be June 6 at Lexington, Ky., the Class A team where his oldest son, Koby, plays. After that Clemens is scheduled to pitch June 11 for Double-A Corpus Christi and June 16 for Triple-A Round Rock, ESPN.com's Jayson Stark reports.
Clemens' return was announced Wednesday by the Astros at a news conference in Houston.
When he is added to the major league roster, he gets a one-year contract worth $22,000,022 -- his uniform number is 22. Because he won't be playing the full season, he gets only a prorated percentage of that, which would come to about $12.25 million if he rejoins Houston in late June. The tentative goal is to have him start against the Minnesota Twins on June 22 -- if he's put on the big league roster on that day, he would earn $12,632,307.
Randy Hendricks, Clemens' agent, reiterated Wednesday that earlier reports of a deal were premature. Hendricks told Stark that Astros GM Tim Purpura went to Hendricks' house last night and met with Hendricks and his brother, Alan. Owner Drayton McLane also took part in the talks by phone, Hendricks said, and they worked out the terms "after midnight."
The Astros were 27-26 and 6½ games behind the NL Central-leading Cardinals after Tuesday night's 6-3 victory over St. Louis.
Clemens pitched for the Astros last season and helped them reach the World Series for the first time. Houston, the New York Yankees, Boston and Texas all tried to lure Clemens to pitch this season.
Clemens last pitched competitively in the World Baseball Classic, where he beat South Africa for the United States in the first round and lost to Mexico 2-1 in the second on March 16.
Clemens retired after the 2003 season, then changed his mind and joined his hometown Astros after former Yankees teammate Andy Pettitte left New York to sign with Houston.
In Detroit, New York Yankees manager Joe Torre heard the report Tuesday that Clemens was returning to Houston.
"I'm not at all surprised," he said. "I didn't think that him coming back here was ever going to happen. Houston's just such a perfect fit for him -- he lives there and Andy's on the team. That's why he came back before, and the circumstances haven't changed."
Texas owner Tom Hicks was told last week by the Hendricks brothers that the Rangers were out of consideration, GM Jon Daniels said.
"Tom got the call on Friday that we were no longer in the running for his services," Daniels said Tuesday. "The way we looked at it was, it would be an honor to be associated with him but we've continued to focus on the 25 guys here. It would have been nice, but we weren't planning on it from the get-go."
Clemens won his seventh Cy Young Award in 2004, going 18-4 with a 2.98 ERA. He went 13-8 with a 1.87 ERA last year, winning the major league ERA title for the first time since 1990.
Information from The Associated Press was used in this report.
ESPN.com news services
HOUSTON -- Roger Clemens is coming out of retirement for the third time, agreeing to a $22 million contract to pitch for the Houston Astros for the rest of 2006.
The 43-year-old Clemens, who will be entering his 23rd major league season, is agreeing first to a minor league contract that pays $322,000 over the five-month minor league season, and his first start is likely to be June 6 at Lexington, Ky., the Class A team where his oldest son, Koby, plays. After that Clemens is scheduled to pitch June 11 for Double-A Corpus Christi and June 16 for Triple-A Round Rock, ESPN.com's Jayson Stark reports.
Clemens' return was announced Wednesday by the Astros at a news conference in Houston.
When he is added to the major league roster, he gets a one-year contract worth $22,000,022 -- his uniform number is 22. Because he won't be playing the full season, he gets only a prorated percentage of that, which would come to about $12.25 million if he rejoins Houston in late June. The tentative goal is to have him start against the Minnesota Twins on June 22 -- if he's put on the big league roster on that day, he would earn $12,632,307.
Randy Hendricks, Clemens' agent, reiterated Wednesday that earlier reports of a deal were premature. Hendricks told Stark that Astros GM Tim Purpura went to Hendricks' house last night and met with Hendricks and his brother, Alan. Owner Drayton McLane also took part in the talks by phone, Hendricks said, and they worked out the terms "after midnight."
The Astros were 27-26 and 6½ games behind the NL Central-leading Cardinals after Tuesday night's 6-3 victory over St. Louis.
Clemens pitched for the Astros last season and helped them reach the World Series for the first time. Houston, the New York Yankees, Boston and Texas all tried to lure Clemens to pitch this season.
Clemens last pitched competitively in the World Baseball Classic, where he beat South Africa for the United States in the first round and lost to Mexico 2-1 in the second on March 16.
Clemens retired after the 2003 season, then changed his mind and joined his hometown Astros after former Yankees teammate Andy Pettitte left New York to sign with Houston.
In Detroit, New York Yankees manager Joe Torre heard the report Tuesday that Clemens was returning to Houston.
"I'm not at all surprised," he said. "I didn't think that him coming back here was ever going to happen. Houston's just such a perfect fit for him -- he lives there and Andy's on the team. That's why he came back before, and the circumstances haven't changed."
Texas owner Tom Hicks was told last week by the Hendricks brothers that the Rangers were out of consideration, GM Jon Daniels said.
"Tom got the call on Friday that we were no longer in the running for his services," Daniels said Tuesday. "The way we looked at it was, it would be an honor to be associated with him but we've continued to focus on the 25 guys here. It would have been nice, but we weren't planning on it from the get-go."
Clemens won his seventh Cy Young Award in 2004, going 18-4 with a 2.98 ERA. He went 13-8 with a 1.87 ERA last year, winning the major league ERA title for the first time since 1990.
Information from The Associated Press was used in this report.
05-31-2006, 11:53 AM
#586
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Thread Starter
Fuck Clemens... We've got David Pauley pitching for us tonight 
05-31-2006, 11:54 AM
#587
Senior Moderator
Originally Posted by GreenMonster
Fuck Clemens... We've got David Pauley pitching for us tonight
05-31-2006, 11:58 AM
#588
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Thread Starter
Originally Posted by Yumchah
Was anyone else annoyed with his should-I-retire-should-I-not and what-team-should-I-grace-my-presence-with approach...? Cuz, it was stupid IMO.
They got the Sox and Yanks involved to drive up the price, so it was a very well orchestrated plan...
Now I gotta see if the AA kid from portland is going to wear #21
05-31-2006, 12:00 PM
#589
One on the right for me
So what the hell is wrong with Oakland? Anyone else an A's fan and pissed that they dont know how to beat the Royals or actually do anything else except leave runners on base?
05-31-2006, 12:21 PM
#591
My Garage
Originally Posted by Yumchah
Was anyone else annoyed with his should-I-retire-should-I-not and what-team-should-I-grace-my-presence-with approach...? Cuz, it was stupid IMO.
05-31-2006, 12:26 PM
#592
Suzuka Master
Originally Posted by GreenMonster
Now I gotta see if the AA kid from portland is going to wear #21
They wouldn't even let Josh wear it because that number is held for the Rocket. Josh had to go back to wearing his number from high school. Too bad my number isn't available. Alex Gonzalez took it.
05-31-2006, 12:35 PM
#593
Benchwarmer
Clemens will get pounded by the Twins on June 22, 8 ER in 3 innings and immediately retire. A week later after leading the his Over-40 softball team to the Bar League championship, he will contemplate unretiring. In September he will sign a one year, $40 million contract with the Astros and pitch one game (prorated to $247,000). He will retire. In 2007 he will find he has some Albanian lineage and lead Albania to the WBC final game. Afterwards he will pull 3 teams from a hat and announce they are the only teams he will pitch for this year......
05-31-2006, 12:43 PM
#594
Suzuka Master
Originally Posted by IlliNorge
Clemens will get pounded by the Twins on June 22, 8 ER in 3 innings and immediately retire. A week later after leading the his Over-40 softball team to the Bar League championship, he will contemplate unretiring. In September he will sign a one year, $40 million contract with the Astros and pitch one game (prorated to $247,000). He will retire. In 2007 he will find he has some Albanian lineage and lead Albania to the WBC final game. Afterwards he will pull 3 teams from a hat and announce they are the only teams he will pitch for this year......
How dare you speak negatively about the Rocket.
05-31-2006, 12:50 PM
#595
Senior Moderator
Originally Posted by kurt_bradley
How dare you speak negatively about the Rocket.
05-31-2006, 12:53 PM
#596
Benchwarmer
Originally Posted by IlliNorge
Clemens will get pounded by the Twins on June 22, 7 ER in 3 innings and immediately retire. A week later after leading the his Over-40 softball team to the Bar League championship, he will contemplate unretiring. In September he will sign a one year, $40 million contract with the Astros and pitch one game (prorated to $247,000). He will retire. In 2007 he will find he has some Albanian lineage and lead Albania to the WBC final game. Afterwards he will pull 3 teams from a hat and announce they are the only teams he will pitch for this year......
How dare you speak negatively about the Rocket.
You're right. Fixed.
Clemens will get pounded by the Twins on June 22, 7 ER in 3 innings and immediately retire. A week later after leading the his Over-40 softball team to the Bar League championship, he will contemplate unretiring. In September he will sign a one year, $40 million contract with the Astros and pitch one game (prorated to $247,000). He will retire. In 2007 he will find he has some Albanian lineage and lead Albania to the WBC final game. Afterwards he will pull 3 teams from a hat and announce they are the only teams he will pitch for this year......
Originally Posted by kurt_bradley
How dare you speak negatively about the Rocket.
05-31-2006, 02:48 PM
#597
Team Owner
Originally Posted by GIBSON6594
You have a point, but I somewhat disagree with what you say the Mets need. The Mets do not need a Zito or Willis. They have a Zito and Willis already with Pedro and Glavine. True, they are getting old, but Glavine has been nasty since last years all-star break when he changed his delivery and Pedro isn't human. They need an inning eater for the number 3 or 4 spot in the rotation. A guy like Benson wouldn't be so bad to be honest. I love the El Duque pickup, what 3 pitchers are going to give you more playoff experiance than Glavine, Pedro and the Duke?
As geared to win now as the Mets are, they are also geared for the future. Beltran just turned 29, Nady is only 27. Wright, Reyes, Milledge and Mike Pelfrey are all under 24. They have another kid named Gomez who isn't near ready, but apparently puts Milledge to shame. They don't want a repeat of the Kazmir deal and would rather take the chance with Millege. Maybe he will turn out like Wright did
As geared to win now as the Mets are, they are also geared for the future. Beltran just turned 29, Nady is only 27. Wright, Reyes, Milledge and Mike Pelfrey are all under 24. They have another kid named Gomez who isn't near ready, but apparently puts Milledge to shame. They don't want a repeat of the Kazmir deal and would rather take the chance with Millege. Maybe he will turn out like Wright did
05-31-2006, 02:49 PM
#598
Senior Moderator
Originally Posted by Doom878
Willis is only in his mid 20's and in his 4th year. If anyone wanted him they'd have to pay with some good prospects.
Stop reminding me of him. I love how the Cubs threw him away for someone who's not even on the team no more.
05-31-2006, 02:50 PM
#599
Team Owner
Originally Posted by subinf
So what the hell is wrong with Oakland? Anyone else an A's fan and pissed that they dont know how to beat the Royals or actually do anything else except leave runners on base?
05-31-2006, 02:51 PM
#600
Team Owner
Originally Posted by Yumchah
Stop reminding me of him. I love how the Cubs threw him away for someone who's not even on the team no more.
He's getting shelled this year though.