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Old 05-08-2013 | 12:17 PM
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Seeing as it is for the regular season, what dance do you want???


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vezina_Trophy


The Vezina Trophy is awarded annually to the National Hockey League's goaltender who is "adjudged to be the best at this position".[1] At the end of each season, the thirty NHL general managers vote to determine the winner.

It is named in honour of Georges Vezina, goaltender of the Montreal Canadiens from 1910 until 1925, who died in 1926 of tuberculosis. The Trophy was first awarded after the 1926–27 NHL season and was awarded to the top goaltender. From 1946–47 to 1981–82, the trophy went to the goalkeeper(s) of the team allowing the fewest number of goals during the regular season;[1] now, the William M. Jennings Trophy is awarded for this.


The Vezina Trophy was named in honor of Georges Vezina, an exceptional goaltender with the Montreal Canadiens. Vezina collapsed during a game in 1925 and was diagnosed as having tuberculosis, of which he died in 1926. Upon Vezina's death, the trophy was donated to the League by the Canadiens' owners, Leo Dandurand, Louis Letourneau and Joe Cattarinich to honour Vezina permanently. It was first awarded at the end of the 1926–27 NHL season to George Hainsworth who had come to Montreal to succeed Vezina..[1]

The trophy was accepted by the league at its May 15, 1927 meeting in Montreal.[2][3] The criteria for winning was variously reported. The Montreal Gazette and The Globe and Mail reported that it was 'to be awarded each year to the goalkeeper in the National Hockey League having the best (goals against) average,'[2][3] while the Toronto Star reported that the trophy went to the 'most valuable' goaltender in the league.[4] When Hainsworth won his third Vezina at the end of the 1928–29 NHL season, the trophy was reported to be for the 'most outstanding' goaltender in the league.[5] However, later reports state that the trophy was based on the lowest goals against average (GAA).[6][7][8]

The Vezina Trophy was quite prestigious, as it was one of the three major personal awards given out by the National Hockey League at the time, along with the Hart Trophy and the Lady Byng Trophy.[9] The hockey media would closely follow a tight "Vezina Trophy race,"[10] such as in 1940–41 when Frank Brimsek, Turk Broda, and Johnny Mowers were separated by only three goals entering the final weekend of the season.[10][11]

In February of 1946, the NHL officially stated that the trophy was to go to the team that allowed the fewest number of goals during the regular season. The goaltender playing the most games for that team would be awarded the Trophy.[12][13] Manager Tommy Gorman of the Montreal Canadiens stated that if the trophy was awarded to his team, that the manner of awarding the trophy to Bibeault or Durnan would be decided by his management.[13] However at a banquet that October, National Hockey League President Clarence Campbell indicated that while the league was considering changing the voting methods of the Calder Memorial Trophy, the Hart Trophy and the Lady Byng Trophy, the criteria for the Vezina was not actually changing.[14]

Since it was common for goaltenders to start every game before 1950, the Vezina usually went to the goaltender with the lowest personal goals against average in the league; however, there were two notable exceptions. George Hainsworth was awarded the inaugural trophy, while Clint Benedict had the lowest GAA in 1926–27. Hainsworth's Canadiens allowed fewer goals as a team than Benedict's Senators. Wilf Cude had the lowest GAA in 1933–34 in 30 games split between two clubs, but the Vezina was awarded to Charlie Gardiner who started all 48 games for the Chicago Blackhawks, the team that allowed the fewest goals.

The National Hockey League lengthened the schedule to 70 games starting in 1949–50. Before then, it was very common for a goaltender to play every minute of his team's season, and only three Vezina winners - Frank Brimsek in both 1938–39 (43 of 48 games) and 1941–42 (47 of 48 games) and Bill Durnan in 1944–45 (40 of 50 games) failed to start every game for their respective clubs.

As teams started to regularly use more than one goaltender in a season, it became more common for the goaltender with the lowest GAA to not be a member of the team that allowed the fewest goals. The Vezina continued to be awarded to the goaltender who started the most games for the team that allowed the fewest goals, but the Vezina winners of 1954–55, 1960–61, 1962–63 and 1963–64 did not have the lowest GAAs.

The National Hockey League began allowing teammates to split the Vezina trophy following the 1964–65 NHL season. The Toronto Maple Leafs allowed 173 goals against, barely beating out the Montreal Canadiens' 175 goals against and the Chicago Blackhawks' 176 goals against. Terry Sawchuk played 36 games for the Leafs with a GAA of 2.56, while his teammate Johnny Bower played 34 games with a league-leading GAA of 2.38, but Sawchuk was to be the sole winner under the old criteria. During the season, the two agreed to split the $1000 prize money that came with the trophy if either of them won. At the end of the season, Sawchuk publicly stated that he would refuse the trophy if Bower would not also have his name inscribed.[15] The NHL subsequently changed the rule to allow any goaltender who played a minimum of 25 games to qualify for the Vezina if his team allowed the fewest goals against, and applied this rule retroactively to Sawchuk and Bower.[16] Under this criteria, Turk Broda would have shared the Vezina that Al Rollins won in 1950–51. This criterion was in place until 1980–81.[1]

As of the 1981–82 NHL season, the Vezina Trophy has been given to the most outstanding goaltender as voted by the general managers of the NHL teams.[17] Billy Smith of the New York Islanders was the first winner of the Vezina under the current system. The William M. Jennings Trophy, given to the goaltender(s) who play(s) more than 25 games for the team that allows the fewest goals, serves the function of the old Vezina.

The change in this award was made likely because the old Vezina criteria had the trophy going to the goaltender(s) of the team that was best at preventing goals, including goalie tandems, and not necessarily the best individual performance. The best goaltender, as voted by the media, was the NHL First Team All-Star. These often differed, such as in 1979–80 when Don Edwards and Bob Sauve shared the Vezina while Tony Esposito was named to the First Team. The new criteria recognized individual goaltender play and Vezina winners and finalists under the new system have been their team's starter playing the majority of the regular season games.

The voting is conducted at the end of the regular season by the 30 general managers of the teams in the National Hockey League, and each individual voter ranks their top three candidates on a 5-3-1 points system.[18] Three finalists are named and the trophy is awarded at the NHL Awards ceremony after the playoffs. It is one of two major NHL awards not voted on by the Professional Hockey Writers' Association, the other being the Ted Lindsay Award which is determined by the NHLPA.
Notes

Jacques Plante holds the record for winning the most Vezinas with seven, followed by Bill Durnan and Dominik Hasek both of whom have won six. Hasek has won the most awards under the current system of voting for the best individual goalie.[1]
Players for the Montreal Canadiens have won the Vezina 28 times.[1]
Under the criteria from 1965 to 1981, there would often be multiple winners from the same team during one season.
During the 1973–74 NHL season, the Chicago Black Hawks and the Philadelphia Flyers finished tied for the fewest goals against; therefore their respective goaltenders Tony Esposito and Bernie Parent were both awarded the trophy, the only time that it would be shared between two players from different teams.[1] Parent was named to the NHL First Team All-Star while Esposito was named an NHL Second Team All-Star.
There are only three players that have won both the Vezina and Hart Memorial Trophy for the same season: Jacques Plante for 1961–62; Dominik Hasek twice for 1996–97 and 1997–98; and Jose Theodore for 2001–02. Two other Vezina winning goaltenders have also won the Hart Memorial Trophy: Roy Worters and Al Rollins. Chuck Rayner was the only goaltender to win the Hart Memorial Trophy, but never the Vezina.[19]
Four players have won the Vezina in their rookie season: Frank Brimsek, Tony Esposito, Ron Hextall, and Ed Belfour, all of whom were also named to the NHL First Team All-Star. Esposito and Belfour also won the Calder Memorial Trophy that season while Hextall went on to win the Conn Smythe Trophy.
Since the current system of voting for the best individual goalie, all Vezina winners except for José Théodore have been named a NHL First Team All-Star.
Old 05-08-2013 | 12:17 PM
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Never said that, just not sure what "decorated" means
Old 05-08-2013 | 12:20 PM
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Good gravy

Now the wikipedia?!?!?

oof......this thread has reached a new low
Old 05-08-2013 | 12:27 PM
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He seems to think the trophy is for something it's not.
Old 05-08-2013 | 12:56 PM
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Good gravy

Now the wikipedia?!?!?

oof......this thread has reached a new low
Old 05-08-2013 | 01:18 PM
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VOKOUN to start for the Pens.
Old 05-08-2013 | 01:20 PM
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Perhaps the Penguins might want to mix in a little TEAM defense.

Your goaltender is not the end all be all "defense".
Old 05-08-2013 | 01:21 PM
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Props to the Nucks fans for not burning the city down last night......now when does the Nucks swap meet begin?

Gonna be a crazy summer for Vancouver.
Old 05-08-2013 | 01:37 PM
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Originally Posted by Moog-Type-S
Perhaps the Penguins might want to mix in a little TEAM defense.

Your goaltender is not the end all be all "defense".
Agreed, for as much crap as Fleury takes, they certainly haven't been helping him much in their own zone
Old 05-08-2013 | 06:16 PM
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Old 05-08-2013 | 06:26 PM
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Ovi says the Rangers don't hit.


I hope they pound him.
Old 05-08-2013 | 07:08 PM
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Originally Posted by e30cabrio
I hope they pound him.
Rangers haven't done much but pound sand so far.

I took the Caps as my dark horse candidate in the East this year.
Old 05-08-2013 | 07:11 PM
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I hope and and :moogelino: prove to be genius's in taking Deeeeetroit to the next round.

Sweet, we get a slight break tonight: early 10:00pm EST start not 10:30.
Old 05-08-2013 | 07:21 PM
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Ovi is a bitch. He wanted to hurt Stepan bad, but he missed. But if Torts was near me, I'd take a stick and beat him with it. 5 on 3, and no shots??! W T F
Old 05-08-2013 | 07:25 PM
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Originally Posted by Fibonacci
Rangers haven't done much but pound sand so far.

I took the Caps as my dark horse candidate in the East this year.
Have you seen the last two games?
Old 05-08-2013 | 07:33 PM
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Nice 1-0 on the Holtby "Rangers are easy" error.
Old 05-08-2013 | 07:51 PM
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Old 05-08-2013 | 08:20 PM
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Originally Posted by e30cabrio
2-0
2-2 And the blue and red Rangers will need even more help from the Rangers in black and white!
Old 05-08-2013 | 08:34 PM
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WTF does Rangers in black mean???
Old 05-08-2013 | 08:42 PM
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Old 05-08-2013 | 08:46 PM
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fuckin awesome game B's and Leafs!
Old 05-08-2013 | 09:08 PM
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Series tied!!!!!!!

Old 05-08-2013 | 09:13 PM
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3 no-name goalies named for Vezina Trophy: Bob, Lunq, and Niemi...
Old 05-08-2013 | 09:19 PM
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Has the bubble burst for the Blues...? Mayyyybe...Kings draw first blood...
Old 05-08-2013 | 09:29 PM
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can someone tell my why O'Byrne would let Keicji skate 2 feet away from he net allowing him to get a clear shot off.... 2 feet from the fawking net!!!!??? At some point you have to commit and actually force a decision.... Fawkin idiot.
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Oof...sorry, dom.


Game 5 at Boston awaits...not the most kind place for the Leaves.
Old 05-09-2013 | 12:56 AM
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can someone tell my why O'Byrne would let Keicji skate 2 feet away from he net allowing him to get a clear shot off.... 2 feet from the fawking net!!!!??? At some point you have to commit and actually force a decision.... Fawkin idiot.
According to Krecji he was looking pass the whole time, he knew Chara was behind him and had the pass to his right, the Leafs took all his options away so he took the shot.

I'd say your bigger problem was the ill advised pinch and attempt at a big hit by Phaneuf that led to the rush. Judging by the look Reimers wife gave Phaneufs fiance after the goal, I think she agrees with me
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Old 05-09-2013 | 11:30 AM
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Originally Posted by Yumcha
Has the bubble burst for the Blues...? Mayyyybe...Kings draw first blood...
What bubble?

It's been a one goal game series the whole time.
Tighter than tight. If Quick didn't handed the Blues the goal in game one, the series would be over, and the Blues would be golfing.
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Originally Posted by herbalist


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Old 05-09-2013 | 11:35 AM
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Old 05-09-2013 | 11:37 AM
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Yo Fibbi! This one of yo girls?
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Old 05-09-2013 | 02:33 PM
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Originally Posted by Moog-Type-S
That which has been seen cannot be unseen.

Old 05-09-2013 | 02:39 PM
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Originally Posted by Moog-Type-S
Yo Fibbi! This one of yo girls?

:wink:

Nope. Might've been Yummy Cakes though.





Old 05-09-2013 | 02:42 PM
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Weird performance by Reimer last night, got caught way out of position on multiple occasions.



Praying the domcha will come through for Hockeytown in 7 games!
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Old 05-09-2013 | 03:27 PM
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Originally Posted by Fibonacci
Weird performance by Reimer last night, got caught way out of position on multiple occasions.



Praying the domcha will come through for Hockeytown in 7 games!
But, the goat has to be Captain Dion and his terrible decision to try to send Horton to orbit and instead, pretty much missed and caused a 2-on-1 for the GWG.
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So, with the victory and shutout likely tonight from Vokoun, is this the last time we've seen Flower as the netminder in the playoffs for the Pens this year...?


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