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Old 01-24-2012, 04:29 PM
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Originally Posted by black label
Which is more embarrassing to their team, Thomas being a knuckle head or Ovie being a crybaby.
Well with Thomas being the only American on the team, it's clear why everyone else wanted to go, dumb foreigners.
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Well with Thomas being the only American on the team, it's clear why everyone else wanted to go, dumb foreigners.
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Originally Posted by black label
Nathan Horton's out with a concussion courtesy of a high hit to the head that lead to the Bruins killing a penalty and no review of the hit. I'm not sure whats going on with Shanny right now.
Ovie, deserved to be suspended, left his feet. Hits to the head are also supposed to come with that. And penalty on the ice showed the one's in charge on the ice knew what what going on, at least that day.

It's clear that Shanny doesn't know WTF he's doing or someone else is still making the decisions and have their hand up Shanny ass, making him smile.
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Originally Posted by black label
Which is more embarrassing to their team, Thomas being a knuckle head or Ovie being a crybaby.
I think the correct answer to the question is
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So Thomas is not getting the start for the Bruins.....
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What an asshole that French Communist coach is for doing that.
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Originally Posted by Moog-Type-S
So Thomas is not getting the start for the Bruins.....
Tuukka gets the all star break off, Thomas doesn't. Good conspiracy but not related to Thomasgate.
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They seem to have been rotating games in the past week or so anyways.
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They can get away with it as Tuukka is playing as well or better than Thomas and they want to keep Thomas' games down so he's rested for the playoffs. The team in front of them needs some work of late though.
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Originally Posted by dom
Its obviously not working. Time to try something else.
Plan B?

http://www.nhl.com/ice/blogpost.htm?id=5938

The Pittsburgh Penguins continue to try to give daily updates on star center Sidney Crosby, but coach Dan Bylsma said Tuesday that he's in California after visiting with Dr. Robert S. Bray, a neurological spine specialst, to continue to treat the lingering effects of concussion-like symptoms, which will force Crosby to miss his 21st straight game tonight after playing in eight upon his return.

So in essence, no new real information.

"Not a timetable because it's possible he could stay there for a little bit of a break as well," Bylsma said of Crosby. "Not a definitive day back in Pittsburgh because he'll be staying on the beach for a little bit."

Crosby first went to Atlanta to pay a visit to Ted Carrick, the chiropractic Neurologist who treated the 2009 NHL MVP for his concussion symptoms last summer.
Old 01-25-2012, 07:58 AM
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Finally saw the Ovie hit. 3 games, really? I could almost understand maybe a game for leaving your feet but 3? Don't know about that.
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Originally Posted by black label


Hate to break it to you but stick a fork in him, he's done. He'll never be the same again....if he comes back.
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Hate to break it to you but stick a fork in him, he's done. He'll never be the same again....if he comes back.
Maybe some words of wisdom from someone who's been there before.
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Savard won't be lacing up the skates for the B's any time soon, but he noted that he's truly happy with his life, although he admits he often wants to get back on the ice. The 34-year-old remains unsure about what the future holds when it comes to hockey, though.

"Right now, the way I'm still feeling and the daily issues I'm having, it's tough to see a bright future right now, to be honest with you. It's tough," Savard said. "I still have my tough days that I want to get back and play, but at the end of the day, I know if I possibly got hit again, what could happen. It's a day by day thing, still. I'm still hoping that something happens and I feel a lot better, but if I feel like this, I still couldn't play."

I mean, obviously it was tough last year not to be a true part of being there, because, you know, I thought I could have helped at times, too," he said. "But I was excited, and when I sit back and look at it right now, if I don't ever play again, I am happy. I guess I went out a winner, too. I'm on the Stanley Cup, I got a ring, and a lot of credit to Peter Chiarelli and the organization for doing that for me. That was unexpected but very nice. So, at the end of the day, I had a decent career if I don't play again, and I'm enjoying what I'm doing right now.
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Hate to break it to you but stick a fork in him, he's done. He'll never be the same again....if he comes back.
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Reminds me of Adam Deadmarsh.....concussions killed his career....taken down in his prime.....even with the lockout in there....he just never recovered.

Sounds like this might be the case with Crosby....even with the upcoming lockout...he might not even come back after that too.
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Originally Posted by dom
Finally saw the Ovie hit. 3 games, really? I could almost understand maybe a game for leaving your feet but 3? Don't know about that.
Well have to you watch the Shanny video, if you can get through it w/o blowing your head off, he gets three because he has been suspended before. But elbows to the head, that are knocking players out of the league, don't mean shit if you're a no name player, especially a Gwen.
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Well have to you watch the Shanny video,
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Originally Posted by Moog-Type-S
I think the correct answer to the question is


Originally Posted by dom
Finally saw the Ovie hit. 3 games, really? I could almost understand maybe a game for leaving your feet but 3? Don't know about that.
Left his feet, elbow to the back of the head, um yeah... Just because he didn't kill him, doesn't mean he wasn't trying

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Goaltender Antero Niittymaki was placed on waivers by the San Jose Sharks on Wednesday.

In 24 appearances this season, Niittymaki has a record of 12-7-3 with a goals-against-average of 2.72 and a save percentage of .896.

Niittymaki, who was signed by the Sharks as an unrestricted free agent prior to the 2010 season, is currently on a conditioning stint with the Sharks' AHL affiliate in Worcester.
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Lightning? Hawks? Leafs? Sens?
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...cause you know Niittymaki is not going to clear wavers....plenty of desperate teams out there.
Old 01-25-2012, 01:39 PM
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Agree or disagree?
Old 01-25-2012, 01:42 PM
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Agree or disagree?
I think it may be a sad reality that Sid is done. What a blow to the sport...and we now have a lockout incoming potentially.
Old 01-25-2012, 01:44 PM
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Originally Posted by black label
Maybe some words of wisdom from someone who's been there before.
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If Sid was 33-34, he'd have an easier decision to make. I think its his age that's making this tough. Plus he still has a legacy to fufill. He was supposed to be the next one.

Can't remember is we talked about here, but his deal is up after next season correct? If he doesn't play til then or until shortly before its up, what kind of contract does he get? 3-4 mill a year? I don't see him in the 7-10 range if things don't get better soon.

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Only the Leafs give players out with a concussion for the last month and half a contract extension.

Couldn't this have waited until he's obviously clear of symptoms?

Maple Leafs sign Liles to four-year contract extension
The Toronto Maple Leafs signed defenceman John-Michael Liles to a four-year contract extension on Wednesday.

Sources tell TSN that the deal is worth $3.875 million per season.

Liles, 31, has four goals and 17 assists for 21 points in 34 games this season and has averaged more than 21 minutes of ice time per game.

Liles, who has been on injured reserve since December 27, has missed the last 15 games due to a concussion.

The Maple Leafs acquired Liles from the Colorado Avalanche last summer in exchange for a second round draft pick in 2012.

Liles, who was originally drafted by the Avalanche in the fifth round (159th overall) in 2000, was in the final year of his current deal that had a cap hit of $4.2 million.
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If Sid was 33-34, he'd have an easier decision to make. I think its his age that's making this tough. Plus he still has a legacy to fufill. He was supposed to be the next one.

Can't remember is we talked about here, but his deal is up after next season correct? If he doesn't play til then or until shortly before its up, what kind of contract does he get? 3-4 mill a year? I don't see him in the 7-10 range if things don't get better soon.
So was Eric Lindros.
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Speaking of concussions....word on the street on Simon Gagné is that he is gone for the season....and perhaps might hang up the skates for good.

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wat?


You'll, I eff'd up my copy and paste edit.
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Left his feet, elbow to the back of the head, um yeah... Just because he didn't kill him, doesn't mean he wasn't trying
And not one word from you on your boy trying to Crosby, Hendricks.
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So was Eric Lindros.
Yup.

Eric played longer than Sid before he started having more serious issues. Or less was known so he probably played through it.
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All-Star Game lacks star power because NHL does, too

.....As Michael Farber noted at Sports Illustrated’s website last week, “this crisis is right in front of us. No fabulous players. No fabulous teams.”

Parity and homogeneity, the goal of every league commissioner for some misguided reason, exact a cost. There are no dynasties to cherish or loathe, and with Sid and Ovie out of sorts, no superstars in our midst.

This won’t stop Ottawa from staging the grandest of shows this weekend.

For the NHL, this is the easy part, celebrating the game with fans and sponsors. The hard part comes down the road, finding the next superstars and keeping them in one piece.
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And not one word from you on your boy trying to Crosby, Hendricks.
Less of a hit, didn't leave the ice, plus they didn't call the hit that was put on him by ovie, your point?
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I always thought parity was bad for sports. People pay to witness greatness and be part of history. Not to see one off's. Does anyone outside of Carolina and Tampa Bay remember they won a cup?

What's one of the SB's biggest stories next week? Can Brady get 4 to become the or one of the greatest of all time? at the same time cementing the Pats as a Dynasty.



@ the Meh things last night. Their All-Star break started early.
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Originally Posted by 97BlackAckCL
Less of a hit, didn't leave the ice, plus they didn't call the hit that was put on him by ovie, your point?
Even though it was a clear elbow to the head, pushing the head into the glass. Guess you will feel different when Crosby take a shot like that if he ever comes comes.
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Even though it was a clear elbow to the head, pushing the head into the glass. Guess you will feel different when Crosby take a shot like that if he ever comes comes.
He was just returning the favor from Ovie that WASN'T CALLED, and I do feel like that about hits on Crosby because they WEREN'T CALLED.

Michalek made a bad hit and was called for it
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Originally Posted by 97BlackAckCL
He was just returning the favor from Ovie that WASN'T CALLED, and I do feel like that about hits on Crosby because they WEREN'T CALLED.

Michalek made a bad hit and was called for it
Doesn't matter if called or not on the ice, Hits to the head are forbidden, a suspended or fine from the league is needed. So if you OK with it as it happen with Michalek, don't be whining when Crosby or one of your Gwens takes a head shot from here out.
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Doesn't matter if called or not on the ice, Hits to the head are forbidden, a suspended or fine from the league is needed. So if you OK with it as it happen with Michalek, don't be whining when Crosby or one of your Gwens takes a head shot from here out.
Ovie is only the second suspension of a headshot against the pens, we've had 7 people out with concussions from headshots this season alone, so yeah I have plenty of room to complain. The league reviewed the Michalek hit as far as i know, none of the hits on Crosby were even looked at.

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Originally Posted by 97BlackAckCL
Ovie is only the second suspension of a headshot against the pens, we've had 8 people out with concussions from headshots this season alone, so yeah I have plenty of room to complain. The league reviewed the Michalek hit as far as i know, none of the hits on Crosby were even looked at.
I was saying the last sentence with a little sarcasm. As far as the review you know who is doing it, and he's a fuck up to start with.


And those eight that are out, you OK that the got hit in the head? You're OK with Michalek giving a clear shot to the head?

Crosby took a glancing blow to the head, and a check to the board that didn't come near the head. But because the golden boi is out, because of this league has said all hits to head are illegal.

Can't wait to see more Gwens take hits to the head and you be OK with it.
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I have stated 100 times on here, that a hit to the head, is a hit to the head, is a hit to the head. Do I think Michalek should have sat a game? Yes, did the league review and declare that he didn't? Yes. Not sure what more you want me to tell you. Ovie left his skates and tried to kill him, glad that you're OK with that, and I'm sorry that you are butthurt that he's out.
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Originally Posted by 97BlackAckCL
I have stated 100 times on here, that a hit to the head, is a hit to the head, is a hit to the head. Do I think Michalek should have sat a game? Yes, did the league review and declare that he didn't? Yes. Not sure what more you want me to tell you. Ovie left his skates and tried to kill him, glad that you're OK with that, and I'm sorry that you are butthurt that he's out.
This is the first that you have said that you know Michalek should sit. Butthurt that's Ovie out, NO!, because I have agreed in here that he should be out, even that suspension should include for the All Star Game.


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