It's not worth selling any more...They are all over eBay and arent going for much more than retail anyways. Unless you can find a local buyer, on Craigslist or something...

I may start looking for a PS3 now, knowing that I may have a chance of finding one...

 

At this point I would buy a WII before I bought a PS3

 

At this point I'm happy with my X360 and would not spend a dime on either the Wii or PS3...

 

yeah i'm gonna wait this one out a bit, methinks. I need a 360 game i don't suck at though. for some reason, i find it so fucking hard to beat the computer on NBA 2k7 on normal mode, its just starting to piss me off. Gears of War is good, but I get owned online, which also pissed me off last night. viva piniata maybe?

 

Yeah. I have a 360 and am very happy with it. I just like the idea of the Wii... Unless PS3 comes out with some REALLY GOOD exclusives, i'm going to stick to my 360... The only game that will skew my thoughts will be the gt series.

 

^ Yeah, the GT series is something I'm keeping my eye on as well. Another deciding factor for me will be Madden 2008. If they are the same on both consoles again like this year, I'll stick with the X360 only, but if EA gets their heads out of their asses and incorporates all of the features the PS2 version has in the next gen game, then I'll go with whatever version is better.

 

My cousin got a PS3 with Resistance, and I have to say I wasn't all too impressed. GOW was on par with it. Granted, Resistance is a launch title. Plus, Sony's online community really sucks. I've been spoiled by the Xbox Live Marketplace, and not having to wait for a DL to finish before I can do anything else on the system.

 

Anyone know how Forza 2 is gonna compare to GT?

 

what happens if the GT series comes out around the same time as the next XBOX which at this point may be possible since GT5 is slated to come out in 2008 anyway. I would imagine the next xbox coming out at the end of '08 (maybe '09) since it's already been out for a year now.

 

you really think they'll bring out a new Xbox in just 3 years (after 360's launch in nov.05')?

 

I think Microsoft may ATTEMPT to take advantage of the fact that the PS3 launch was delayed so much. Being able to launch the next gen MS console ahead of Sony can really hurt Sony's market share and give MS the edge they needed to gain some strong momentum to chip at Sony's market share.

The earliest we MAY see one is end of '08. But I don't see them launching in the middle of the year especially if they can instead spend the next year refining and more time making more units so they don't have a shortage at xmas. Guess we'll have to wait and see.

 

Nah... they'll stay on the same cycle they've been on. Consoles generally last about 4-5 years. That's pretty much the way it's always been, and there's no reason to change it...

 

There is a big reason to do it. Crush Sony. If the next Xbox were to come out in 2009 and Sony stays on their same cycle of 5 years then there would be a 2 year gap between the MS and Sony next gen consoles. That would be huge. And MS is about the only company in the world that has the cash and aggressiveness to pull that off

 

wait a minute... juniorbean no longer wants a PS3!?!?? when did this happen?? hath hell frozen over while I was looking the other way??? :P

 

isn't he waiting to buy a 1080p set first?

 

For MS not to take advantage of this can only hurt them IMO because all MS has been doing is trying to chip at Sony's market share anyway. Having that extra gap can help them get far aheax of sony int he console wars if they plan their next gen consoles properly and don't have any goofups.

 

For the sake of the consumers, don't you think that would hurt Microsoft in the long run, coming out with another system so soon? Microsoft has to think about the consumers, not just crushing Sony. If microsoft came out with another system that soon, I can't be so sure that I would by one.

 

I didn't think about that. That is true. Many people wouldn't. However I could see many of the serious gamers jumping on, and those looking for the newest and best for xmas at that time would. I don't know how bad their sales would hurt because if they make the 360 games work on the next gen then the hardware is a non-issue because they are still making a lot of money off the licensing of games and accessories.

 

There is no doubt in my mind that they wouldn't sell them. Of coarse they would. People want the best. But for the normal person (like me) the 360 is just as good in many aspects as the PS3. I think the one place where Microsoft shot them selves in the foot where PS3 is "supposed" to be better is BC. My original Xbox took a crap and I was not gonna buy another one because I wanted a 360. Now I have 10 games from the OG xbox that dont work.
If they did release a new XBOX in a few years, the ONLY way I would be interested is if it were 10x's better than the ps3 and had FULL BC. Otherwise, there would be no point.

Im not gonna invest 60 bucks a pop in games, just to turn around and have them collecting dust because I cant play them anymore.

 

They would certainly still support the 360 and there would be games and updates for it.

But after having the 360 for 4 years I would think nothing about upgrading if the technoclgy and games were there for a Xbox3.

 

Yeah, exactly.. Like I said. It would HAVE to be worth it. Not just a little bit of an upgrade.

 

...people forget that even though the 360 was launched in nov. of 05' most people didn't get one... in fact most people still don't have one... 07'-08' will be the year people catch up... to bring out a new console just as people are catching up? It would piss off a lot of people... just my opinion...

 

Was Xbox -> Xbox360 worth it?

Was PS2 -> PS3 worth it?

Certainly not for all, but the market is certainly there.

 

Were a lot of Xbox owners mad when the 360 came out after 4 years?

 

05'-08' is 3 years....

 

I think 4 years is an optimal time frame, in this situation because of MS continued growth and the opportunity to really take a huge bite out of Sony's dominance I think if they pushed it people would buy the next gen xbox. MS isn't about to release their next gen console unless it does in fact have significant improvements. making something that is simply a lateral move makes no sense.

And to answer Silver's question, none of my friends, myself included, were mad when the 360 came out after 4 years. And in fact I didn't buy my xbox until a year after it was already out.

People these days want the latest and greatest, and it's getting even worse with kids. If MS released the next gen in xmas 08 I think it would sell like hotcakes even with the 360 still on the market.

Does this mean they will, but that's why I raised that question/point. Sony's struggles as of late are simply things that MS should take advantage of.

 

360 is over the Xbox to an extent. Graphics wise. To be completly better than it I should not have have to have both to play all my old games. Same goes for the PS3.

 

I think he was referring to the xbox and the 360.

xbox came out in 01 correct? making it 4 years between the xbox and the 360.

 

I know... but isn't he saying that a (even) newer Xbox should be brought out in 08'? which is only 3 years? I, personally, don't think they should or will... maybe 09' but NOT 08'

 

I would have no problem with them (or anyone for that matter) coming out with a new system every 4 years, but my biggest gripe is I don't want to keep all my old systems around to play my old games. PS2 > PS1 was a perfect example. I could still play ALL of my PS1 games.

If i'm gonna buy a new microsoft or sony system, I want it to 100% replace my old unit. Thats why I get soooo pissed off at microsoft for how they handled BC. And it is turning out that the PS3 is being the same way.

Edit: Unless Sony fixed their BC issues. I am unaware.

 

though, I... definitly think between now and the next gen XBox, they will have newer versions, perhaps with built in HD DVD player (assuming that HD wins the battle over Blu Ray), built in wifi, slimmer casing that sort of nature, AND a cost cut...

 

Here's a comparison, do you guys think IPOD owners are pissed that every year a new IPOD comes out when they just dished out $400+ ($350 for the newest) and the model from just one year in the future is much better than the one they have?

Do you know anyone that has gotten rid of their older IPOD just to have the newer one?

 

It's a widely held belief, that has only been recently challenged due to PS3's immeasurable failure, that the Xbox product strategy was to build & release the 360 as a stopgap solution.

The 360's sole purpose was to be first to market with enough power to chase early PS3 games while the 360's successor was finalized.

It was assumed that Microsoft was building the 360 in step with it's successor all along.

This was Microsoft's strategy for crushing Sony. Beat them to market with the 360 and then blow them out of the water with the 720(?).

Things may certainly have changed since details of the 360 first emerged. PS3 was delayed several times and showed up a year late, the cell processor proved more challenging to work with then first thought, the PS3 hasn't been able to keep up with what little demand there may be, Blu-Ray is already being coined Beta-Ray and being predicted as yet another Sony-media flop.

Microsoft is sitting pretty right now. Now they have options.

They don't have to have a system to BEAT the PS3 within the PS3's first two years. They don't have to race with Sony anymore.

Microsoft is the console maker to beat now. Microsoft is winning the war.

But, like Silver pointed out. They still want to CRUSH Sony.

If they release a 720 in 2008 they will put a nail in Playstations coffin. If they can release a console superior to the PS3 early in the PS3's life Sony will never recover.

Then they've got new competition to worry about.

We're hearing Apple may get into the console business within the next 2 years. They're already aiming at the Media Center business, gaming is the next logical step.

I don't know that Apple can really succeed at this game, but you can't discount them either. They're the hottest consumer electronics maker in the world right now. Apple is what Sony was in the 80's and 90's.

I don't think the 360 can survive 4 more years. There's only so much one can do through system updates. Sooner or later the hardware needs to be improved.

I think there has to be another Xbox on the market by 2009 at the latest. Hopefully for our sake and Microsoft's even sooner.

 

Yeah, millions of people.

That's Apple's signature trait. Frequent replacements and consumers who will accept it.

Just yesterday this discussion was held on CNBC about the forthcoming iPhone. The thing isn't even officially announced yet and we're already hearing details about the iPhone2 and it's widely assumed Apple has already filed patents for the iPhone3!

There's a wide world of early adopters out there. Myself included.

 

I think you might be in the minority here though.

I certainly don't want to play any stodgy old game once the new system comes out, and there's alot of people like me.

Shit, I'll probably never even watch a DVD again now that I have HD-DVD despite the massive library available for DVD. I'll wait until there's an HD-DVD title to watch a movie I want to see.

Pirates 2 for example, no HD-DVD, no movie for me. I'm dying to see it, but not in standard definition.

 

yeah, but the music that you downloaded when you got your very 1st iPod still works in the newest iPod... ...yes, most older Xbox games still works with the 360 but who really does that? I mean... who runs out and buy a 360 and get all excited to play old XBox games? Everytime a new console comes out, they jack up the prices on the games... I know people won't be happy about that...

do see what I'm saying? songs will always be songs... the ones you downloaded years ago will still sound the same on the newest and latest iPod... but everytime a new console comes out... you're forced to buy new games and spend even more...

...all I'm saying is... 08' would be too early... 09' perhaps...

 

Nobody forces you to upgrade

Xbox 360 games will continue to be made and you'll continue to be able to buy and play them on your Xbox 360.

On the flip-side of your argument, older games will just get cheaper.

If you don't want to spend the dime on new games for a new system, you don't have to.

Personally, I'd love to have a more powerful Xbox with native 1080p games and all the oooh's and ahhh's that come along with a new generation of a console. I'd be willing to pay for it (and the games too)... and I only bought my 360 a month ago!

It's no different than with TV's.

I'm not pissed because 1080p came out barely 2 years after I bought my last 720p set. I'm not mad that HD-DVD's cost an arm and a fucking leg. I don't have to buy the latest & the greatest, but I like to.

 

well I'm pissed...








...pissed that I can't afford it.

 

apparently you guys think I'm against a another new XBox in the near future, you guys just don't get my main point... trust me, ME, of all people, am usually first to get the latest of everything... All I'm saying is... I highly doubt the next gen XBox will be out in 08'... perhaps 09'... and if I'm wrong? in then you guys can pull this thread and quote me (in 08') and give me a x 96523268569

 

at least you know who Master Cheif is now. so that takes a few of those away, but not many.

IF the next gen MS console comes out in 08 we'll probably start hearing rumor's about it late in '07 so I guess we'll just have to wait and see.