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Old Mar 15, 2025 | 04:57 AM
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Coupla recent sales on BaT.

I always liked the SportCross, although it seems like more of a hatch than a wagon.

And the 300TDs are real tanks.

2005 Lexus IS300 SportCross

https://bringatrailer.com/listing/20...sportcross-10/



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Old Mar 15, 2025 | 06:50 AM
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Would gladly DD either.
Wish the IS had been available with a manual. My aunt had a 5MT sedan & it was a blast.

Always loved the TD.
I had a W123 240D sedan. Hindsight, perfect car for a 16 yr old. 64hp & 0-60 better measured with a calendar
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Old Mar 15, 2025 | 08:42 AM
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That caramel interior on the W123 is
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Old Mar 15, 2025 | 08:47 AM
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Not my favorite, but I'd take it.
My W123 had the navy leather, which would still be my top choice. The worst on those was the burgundy interior
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Old Mar 18, 2025 | 12:12 AM
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Ask and ye shall receive: 2001 Toyota Altezza Ghia

Toyota Altezza "wagon"
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Old Mar 21, 2025 | 05:28 AM
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1982 Toyota Corolla Deluxe Wagon

https://bringatrailer.com/listing/19...ota-corolla-6/












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Old Mar 22, 2025 | 08:56 AM
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Technically a "SUV/Crossover," but lowered, as it is, I think this might qualify as a "wagon."

Well ... ok, maybe more of a hot-hatch. Anyways ...

https://carsandbids.com/auctions/r4d6WxlP/2019-audi-sq5







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Old Mar 22, 2025 | 04:41 PM
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Old Mar 23, 2025 | 07:24 AM
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Just barely missed an RS6 yesterday, caught in passing at Bass Pro Shop
White w black roof box, looked great, but was in passing &at the other end of the lot.
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Old Mar 23, 2025 | 09:36 AM
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Never seen one of these before: Honda Civic Shuttle "Beagle" (JDM)

Love the EF front-end with that tall, squared-off back-end!

AWD; 1.6L I4 w/ 6MT (same as the Civic Si)


















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Old Mar 24, 2025 | 05:14 AM
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2000 Toyota Crown Estate Athlete V (JZS171W; 1JZ-GTE 2.5L I6 forced induction; 276 hp, 286 lbs-ft; RWD)

https://www.capitaljdm.com/listing/2...ate-athlete-v/







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Old Mar 24, 2025 | 03:49 PM
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didn’t we have something similar looking here in the states?
I swear I’ve seen it before.

that looks awesome tho!

Originally Posted by nanxun
Never seen one of these before: Honda Civic Shuttle "Beagle" (JDM)

Love the EF front-end with that tall, squared-off back-end!

AWD; 1.6L I4 w/ 6MT (same as the Civic Si)













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Old Mar 24, 2025 | 03:51 PM
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I seem to recall a Civic hatch like that, but highly doubt it was AWD with a crawler gear [assuming that's what SL is]
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Old Mar 24, 2025 | 04:00 PM
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There was a 4th gen Civic hatchback in the US. Also with real time AWD too.

the backend also reminds me of the 1st gen CRV.

Last edited by Mizouse; Mar 24, 2025 at 04:01 PM. Reason: Civic not Covid LOL
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Old Mar 24, 2025 | 04:31 PM
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Apparently the EF-gen Civic was available as a wagon ("wagovan") in the USDM in the mid-1980s.

And that vehicle is now being touted by auto journos in recent years (c. 2022) as the conceptual predecessor to the CR-V.

Can't stand the CR-V, its overwhelming popularity notwithstanding , but this bit of history is interesting.

https://www.drivingline.com/articles...er-revolution/





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Old Mar 28, 2025 | 11:47 AM
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https://www.jalopnik.com/1820380/cus...station-wagon/





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Old Mar 28, 2025 | 11:50 AM
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Looks decently done from the stills. But almost more apt for the WTF thread...
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Old Mar 28, 2025 | 09:28 PM
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Originally Posted by 00TL-P3.2
Looks decently done from the stills. But almost more apt for the WTF thread...
yeah, I’m gonna second that. I mean A+ for effort, but love ain’t that blind…
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Old Mar 29, 2025 | 10:24 AM
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Flat-4 turbo AWD on C&B.

1993 Subaru Legacy Touring Wagon

https://carsandbids.com/auctions/92y...-touring-wagon






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Old Mar 29, 2025 | 10:55 AM
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Old Mar 29, 2025 | 08:19 PM
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That’s closer to a hearse than a wagon though
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Old Apr 3, 2025 | 07:40 AM
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Little too loud for my taste, but still ....


https://bringatrailer.com/listing/20...erformance-gt/




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Old Apr 5, 2025 | 08:06 AM
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Old Apr 8, 2025 | 06:26 AM
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Old Apr 8, 2025 | 08:20 AM
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Neat, but pass on that one.
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Old Apr 8, 2025 | 09:45 AM
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Looks like it's bent in the middle...
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Old Apr 10, 2025 | 12:46 AM
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Yay, another wagon for our shores! The E53 wagon

https://www.caranddriver.com/news/a6...agon-revealed/
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Old Apr 10, 2025 | 07:52 AM
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Still don't love the front end of the W214, but yay for more wagons
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Old Apr 10, 2025 | 12:03 PM
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Originally Posted by 00TL-P3.2
Still don't love the front end of the W214, but yay for more wagons
agreed, the interior isn’t very inspired either, but I prefer it over the BMW.
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Old Apr 10, 2025 | 12:24 PM
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Old Apr 10, 2025 | 12:37 PM
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Shame we never got the W205 wagon here
A C43 Estate would've been great

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Old Apr 10, 2025 | 02:20 PM
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I don’t know shit. But are these not the same?


Originally Posted by Mizouse

Originally Posted by 00TL-P3.2
Shame we never got the W205 wagon here
A C43 Estate would've been great
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Old Apr 10, 2025 | 02:23 PM
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The white one is an E, the silver one a C.
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Old Apr 10, 2025 | 02:24 PM
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How can you tell?


they look the same to me
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Old Apr 10, 2025 | 02:41 PM
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Subtle but the MBfanbois can tell.
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Old Apr 10, 2025 | 02:52 PM
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Originally Posted by 00TL-P3.2
Subtle but the MBfanbois can tell.

see, that’s a big problem to me. The C, E and S look far too similar. If I spring for an S class, I don’t want to be seen as a pleb in a C class.
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Old Apr 10, 2025 | 02:56 PM
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Well, the S is noticeably bigger than the other 2, definitely stands out.
But I do agree. MB is moving to a very homogenous look with the sedans.
I loved the look of the W205 C over it's E-class big sister.
In photos they may blob together a bit, but it's a lot more noticeable in person.
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Old Apr 10, 2025 | 03:08 PM
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I agree to some extent, but if you see it further out and there isn’t another vehicle near for size reference you can easily mistake it. If you park next to it, for sure size will be noticeable.
in general I have not been a fan of the forced homogenized styling of brands. Personally, I don’t feel the need to have the same nose on all Acuras. In the 90s, I never mistook an NSX for the Vigor, or the Legend. I also never thought the Legend was a Buick because all Acuras didn’t have the same grill.
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Old Apr 10, 2025 | 03:09 PM
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Small thing, but you can tell by how many LED strips there are in the headlights on some years.
C = 1
E = 2
S = 3
At least in the early teens
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Old Apr 11, 2025 | 05:18 AM
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Originally Posted by Mizouse
How can you tell?


they look the same to me
Rear window (C pillar). That is your giveaway.
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