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Old Jul 8, 2023 | 08:17 PM
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Old Jul 8, 2023 | 08:36 PM
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Old Jul 19, 2023 | 07:57 PM
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Alpina B5 Wagon...... With a lot more torque than an M5... BMW B5 Wagon




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Old Jul 19, 2023 | 08:57 PM
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Alpina B5 Wagon...... With a lot more torque than an M5... BMW B5 Wagon


I already posted this in another thread, but this was my rental during our trip to Europe.

I really liked it, on the flight back I thought to myself “wait doesnt Alpina have a 5 touring?” I navigate over to bmwusa only to realize that not only is that not an option, but the next gen 5 series is uglier than the last outgoing model.

Why can’t there be an E39 M5 touring…
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Old Jul 20, 2023 | 08:33 PM
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Originally Posted by PhilB81
I already posted this in another thread, but this was my rental during our trip to Europe.

I really liked it, on the flight back I thought to myself “wait doesn't Alpina have a 5 touring?” I navigate over to bmwusa only to realize that not only is that not an option, but the next gen 5 series is uglier than the last outgoing model.

Why can’t there be an E39 M5 touring…
Crazy. I mean, Audi brought over the A6 (albeit in the All Road guise), plus the RS6 Avant
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Old Jul 20, 2023 | 08:51 PM
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Originally Posted by mrmako
Crazy. I mean, Audi brought over the A6 (albeit in the All Road guise), plus the RS6 Avant
yeah what is up with the offroad-y wagons. Like the Porsche Taycan CrossTurismo with the plastic cladding and higher ride height even on a turbo trim, what is this shit! Atleast the GTS trim is “Sport” turismo meaning that for me, if I can’t get that one, I can’t afford one.

About the RS6 avant, I absolutely drooled over that car, then I saw it’s heavier than my minivan, which is odd, but ok. It still has the thrust of the falcon heavy rockets, but my neighbor knew someone that had one and if memory serves me right, outside of straight line, it felt pretty numb. So this sort of ruined my fantasy.

now I saw this in Europe which got me super excited… but we don’t get them in the USA…




and he was followed by his buddy in another sexy wagon…








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Old Jul 20, 2023 | 11:23 PM
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Old Jul 21, 2023 | 08:17 AM
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An AMG Wagon will always get a from me
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Old Jul 21, 2023 | 09:41 AM
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Originally Posted by 00TL-P3.2
An AMG Wagon will always get a from me
So AMG wagon > M3 wagon for you?

guy down the street from my parents has a W211 E55 wagon.
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Old Jul 21, 2023 | 09:56 AM
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MB fanboi #1 here
If MB had offered the W205 Estate here, I'd have bought one over the sedan I had.
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Old Jul 21, 2023 | 10:57 AM
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AMG Wagon is one of my dream cars.
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Old Jul 21, 2023 | 01:52 PM
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Same. My next car was supposed to be a w213 E63 Estate but then the pandemic happened and used prices skyrocketed. I'll probably never get one now
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Old Jul 21, 2023 | 01:57 PM
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E63S Estate would be my 'i won the lotto & want to keep miles off my Gullwing' DD
I'd be happy with a W211 S/C E55
For a non-factory custom, I'd get a W123 wagon & put a W203 C32 drivetrain in it.
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Old Jul 21, 2023 | 09:02 PM
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You guys are kids, Volvo 850R wagon is where it’s at
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Old Jul 21, 2023 | 09:20 PM
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Originally Posted by civicdrivr
Same. My next car was supposed to be a w213 E63 Estate but then the pandemic happened and used prices skyrocketed. I'll probably never get one now
don’t lose hope! You can do it! Yeah pandemic recession is a weird joke, exotics doubled in price because of hard times. I feel like half the planet found a free money glitch that I wasn’t in on. I guess some crypto folks cashed out.

I see that Benz also went stupid with only offering the all-terrain as a wagon (outside of the AMG model)…

next gen m5 is rumored to have a wagon variant, but of course it won’t come to the USA. Unless maybe they offer 3 row seating, 14,000 lbs towing capacity and 34 cup holders.
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Old Jul 21, 2023 | 09:57 PM
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And even if they do it'll start at $170k.

(Slight sarcasm)
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Old Aug 6, 2023 | 05:35 PM
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Old Aug 6, 2023 | 09:15 PM
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I saw a white one (CLS wagon) years ago in Europe, I thought it was the coolest thing, but now I think I would prefer an E wagon.
Still, really cool car and if one would present itself in my garage, I wouldn’t turn it away.
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Old Aug 7, 2023 | 08:22 AM
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Agreed, I'd have an E Estate for my $
The CLA/CLS shooting brakes just don't do much for me.
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Old Aug 7, 2023 | 08:26 PM
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Originally Posted by PhilB81
I saw a white one (CLS wagon) years ago in Europe, I thought it was the coolest thing, but now I think I would prefer an E wagon.
Still, really cool car and if one would present itself in my garage, I wouldn’t turn it away.
So I may be going back to Japan next year to live/work. With all the cool cars Japan has, the CLS Shooting Brake is relatively cheap ($10-15K) for a 10 year old but with 30K miles on them. Hardly driven. And the cars are immaculate condition. It's a thought.

Or this



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Old Aug 10, 2023 | 01:31 PM
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That’s a cool STI!
what part of Japan are you going to? Wife and I went there in 2018 and we absolutely loved it.

it was the first time I saw a Toyota Century. I had no clue what it was, but I wanted one.
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Old Aug 11, 2023 | 08:18 PM
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Originally Posted by PhilB81
That’s a cool STI!
what part of Japan are you going to? Wife and I went there in 2018 and we absolutely loved it.

it was the first time I saw a Toyota Century. I had no clue what it was, but I wanted one.
I lived in Japan twice. 1988-1990 as a Soldier Then I was there 2004-2011. That's how I joined this board, owning 2G TL, Honda Saber. Both times I lived in Okinawa. Little place, very crowded, but had fun. The pic is an S402 Legacy Wagon. I had a 3.0L SpecB Legacy. Click on my avatar for a better look. Or you can dig on here for pics of that awesome car.

Was also in Tokyo last month. I love the country, so much so I could retire there.

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Old Aug 12, 2023 | 09:00 PM
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Old Aug 16, 2023 | 09:13 PM
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That thing looks like the Ectomobile (ghostbusters car). Put a few gizmos on the roof s bit of red paint…
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Old Aug 27, 2023 | 04:41 PM
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What do you guys think of the non-AMG version of the E class now?
Im not a fan on the plastic cladding and the higher ride height.
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Old Aug 28, 2023 | 08:25 AM
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In that color, not so much, in a darker color it looks a lot better.
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Old Aug 28, 2023 | 12:01 PM
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Darker color hides the plastics which shouldn’t have been there to begin with. Also, the shape looks so timid. The other wagons in this thread have so much more presence.
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Agreed, it's a much softer look. I prefer the facelifted W212.
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Old Aug 28, 2023 | 01:25 PM
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I'd rather have the Allroad.
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Old Aug 28, 2023 | 01:56 PM
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MB > BMW > Audi, for me, in the midsize E/5/_ size. Same for the compacts. Just never been big on Audi.
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Old Aug 28, 2023 | 04:52 PM
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I was seriously considering a 2016 E350 wagon but couldn’t find one in the spec I liked that wasn’t grossly overpriced for low mileage. I still thing that’s the best example recently as it’s far less complicated than the E400-450 with its twin turbo or 48v systems.
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Old Aug 29, 2023 | 07:52 AM
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I'd still be tempted by the turbo 6
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Old Aug 29, 2023 | 07:53 AM
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photo, but this OB actually looked pretty good.

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Old Aug 29, 2023 | 12:31 PM
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Nice! That’s how you do the off-road trail look, not the Benz 350 wagon or Taycan cross turismo stuff!
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Old Aug 29, 2023 | 12:45 PM
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Originally Posted by 00TL-P3.2
MB > BMW > Audi, for me, in the midsize E/5/_ size. Same for the compacts. Just never been big on Audi.
I really liked the A6 Allroad I test drove back in 2020. But it didn't feel like it was worth $80k. $60-65k, maybe.
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Old Aug 29, 2023 | 02:30 PM
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Originally Posted by civicdrivr
I really liked the A6 Allroad I test drove back in 2020. But it didn't feel like it was worth $80k. $60-65k, maybe.
I have heard the A6 Allroad Prestige is an incredible car but there’s no way I would ever pay $80K for one. But they hold their value really, really well because they are so rare.
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Originally Posted by 00TL-P3.2
photo, but this OB actually looked pretty good.
I apologize for my shameless plug, but I absolutely love my Outback 😊


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Old Aug 29, 2023 | 04:13 PM
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@is300eater did you take that pic? Looks like a poster for the car!
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Old Aug 29, 2023 | 05:15 PM
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@is300eater did you take that pic? Looks like a poster for the car!
Yes and no... I used Photoshop Ai and created it from this image 😁

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That pic is equally as good to show what 99.9% of Subarus do.

Is PS AI free for anyone to try or part of creative cloud?
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