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Old Jun 18, 2022 | 06:56 PM
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Old Jun 21, 2022 | 08:51 AM
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This is one I never heard of & pretty cool!

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The Toyota Caldina CZ is a sporty wagon of the 90’s never before offered in the US market. As with all things Toyota, Japan got the best, and this particular example does not disappoint. The “Vertex Edition” aero kit balances nicely against the beautiful original paint. The interior is near flawless, with a timeless retro upholstery shared with the AE101 Sprinter Trueno. Under the hood, the transverse mounted 3S-FE engine delivers power to all four wheels via Toyota’s All-Trac four wheel drive system. It was imported from Japan in May 2022 and is offered for your consideration.

Specs:
-Right hand drive
-81,586 miles (131,300 kms)
-3S-FE 2.0 liter gas engine, twin cam, 16 valve
-Automatic transmission
-All-Trac all wheel drive
-Seating for 5
-Bluish Silver Metallic paint (Color code 1A0)

Features:
-Rust free body and chassis
-Vertex Edition
-Factory aero kit with front lip, side skirts, rear lip, and dual rear wings
-Xenon HID headlights
-LED side markers
-Rubber body molding
-Power steering
-SRS driver and passenger airbags
-Automatic climate control system with AC and heat
-Power windows
-Power door locks
-Factory key fob with remote lock/unlock
-Power mirrors with retract function
-Double DIN stereo with AM/FM/CD/Nav
-Digital clock
-Dual coin holders
-Flip down sunglasses holder
-Front bucket seats
-50/50 split folding rear seats
-Factory floor mats with "Toyota" emblems
-Rear 12 volt 60 watt power adapter
-Rear molded plastic floor mat with “Toyota” badging
-Retractable cargo cover
-Tinted rear window
-Rear window defrost
-Rear windshield wiper with sprayer
-Factory roof rails
-Rain guards/wind deflectors on all four doors
-Original tool roll and scissor jack
-Original owner's manual
-Original Japanese road flare with holder
-Aftermarket 5 spoke alloy wheels
-Bridgestone Blizzak tires in 195/65R15

Upgrades:
-Hiace Southeast JDM to US license plate adapters with hardware
-ROAV Bluetooth FM transmitter (for wireless streaming of phone audio through the factory stereo) with dual USB charging ports
-Remote start

Maintenance and Service:
-Oil changed in Japan, prior to export
-Amsoil PI Performance Improver fuel treatment (as preventative maintenance)
-New Toyota air filter
-New radiator cap
-Timing belt replaced (kms unreadable on sticker, but presumably it would have been around 100k kms)

Known Defects:
-3 roof rack rail caps are missing (front left, center left, right rear)


Sold with the following original import documents - CBP 7501 (stamped by US Customs official), EPA 3520-1, DOT HS-7, Export Certificate (title), English translation of export certificate, Commercial Invoice, Bill of Lading, Notice of Arrival, and a Bill of Sale. 100% federally legal. State and local laws regarding the registration of imported vehicles vary. It is the buyer's responsibility to determine if they can legally register this vehicle in their home jurisdiction.

Please note, this vehicle is subject to CA sales tax (however, this typically can be applied as an offset against sales tax in your state). Sales tax is NOT due if delivery of the vehicle is taken outside of California.

This vehicle is not eligible for registration in CA and cannot be sold to a CA resident unless they intend to keep and register the vehicle out of state or use it strictly on private property.

Vans From Japan has done their best to thoroughly and accurately describe this vehicle, however, it is the buyer's responsibility to substantiate all claims. Prospective buyers are encouraged to inspect the vehicle in person or to hire a vehicle inspector to perform an inspection prior to committing to buy. All used vehicle sales are 100% 'as-is' unless the buyer purchases a Contract Cancellation Option.

Year: 1997
Make: Toyota
Model: Caldina
Trim: CZ "Vertex Edition"
Mileage: 81586 mi
Engine: 3SFE
Transmission: Automatic
Drivetrain: 4WD
Fuel Type: Gasoline
VIN: ST1958019162

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Old Jun 22, 2022 | 10:55 AM
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If only it were a manual.
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Old Jun 22, 2022 | 11:21 AM
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At least the @$$ is really nice...here's the new M3 Touring...

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Old Jun 22, 2022 | 11:43 AM
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I want it. Bring it to the states so I can complain about it starting at $95k.
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Old Jun 22, 2022 | 12:18 PM
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Would DEFINITELY rock it.
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Old Jun 22, 2022 | 09:25 PM
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The Caldina... Yeah, a bland Toyota. Japan is chock full of them. But once you start modifying...
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Old Jun 23, 2022 | 06:25 PM
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Here's the new M3 Touring in MotoGP safety car colors...

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Old Jun 23, 2022 | 06:25 PM
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Again, I have issues with that snout...but, the rest of it is nice.

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Old Jun 23, 2022 | 06:40 PM
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I like the new M wagon.... A lot...... Minus the beaver face.
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Old Jul 6, 2022 | 04:08 PM
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For some reason, i dont mind the front end as much as i do on the sedan.


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Old Jul 7, 2022 | 02:16 PM
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That ass is so sexy as a wagon.

Good driver!
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Old Jul 7, 2022 | 02:25 PM
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That video is awesome!
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Old Jul 7, 2022 | 02:37 PM
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I'd buy it right now even with the beaver face if they brought it to the US.
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Old Jul 7, 2022 | 03:07 PM
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I have this overpowering urge to post this here!
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Old Jul 7, 2022 | 10:29 PM
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Old Jul 8, 2022 | 08:11 AM
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Drop the XC bits &
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Old Jul 8, 2022 | 01:29 PM
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Looks decent. But dont quite understand the lifted, cladded off road look with 20" wheels and low profile tires.
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Old Jul 8, 2022 | 01:34 PM
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Because I doubt someone paying V90XC money is going to actually take it offroad.
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Old Jul 8, 2022 | 01:53 PM
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Originally Posted by 00TL-P3.2
Because I doubt someone paying V90XC money is going to actually take it offroad.
I get that. But then why lift it? They should just make it a regular wagon.

ppl who want a CUV will just get a CUV/SUV. People who want a wagon, then get a wagon.

This along with BMW 3GT/5GT, Accord Crosstour makes no sense to me. well that is why most of them are discontinued.
The Subaru one makes some sense since most of the ppl are buying for the image of Subaru at least, pretty much like rest of their lineup.

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Old Jul 8, 2022 | 01:59 PM
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Same as the Outback, aimed at a higher target market.
Don't want an XC60/90, you've got the V60/90XC as a longroof option but not low like a standard wagon.

I do wish we had more traditional wagon options. Really liked the Golf Alltrack, just needed more power.
MB & BMW were the only ones to offer decent [non-lifted softraoder] wagons in the 3er & E-class, both hen's teeth recently.

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Old Jul 8, 2022 | 02:39 PM
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Originally Posted by 00TL-P3.2
Same as the Outback, aimed at a higher target market.
Don't want an XC60/90, you've got the V60/90XC as a longroof option but not low like a standard wagon.

I do wish we had more traditional wagon options. Really liked the Golf Alltrack, just needed more power.
MB & BMW were the only ones to offer decent [non-lifted softraoder] wagons in the 3er & E-class, both hen's teeth recently.
Not since 2020 at least in the US. We gotta blame ourselves for not having that many options. We fat Americans want SUVs.
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Old Jul 9, 2022 | 11:04 AM
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Originally Posted by 00TL-P3.2
Drop the XC bits &
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Old Jul 9, 2022 | 02:47 PM
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V60 is pretty tits too...

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Old Jul 9, 2022 | 09:20 PM
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^ That looks like a Polestar.



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Old Jul 11, 2022 | 08:33 AM
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V60 would get my pick if I were in the market for a wagon, looks better than the non-AMG E-Estate.
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Old Jul 15, 2022 | 09:53 AM
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Abt Sportsline's RS3...

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Old Jul 15, 2022 | 09:59 AM
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Volvo is best affordable wagon...they drop in price so quickly.
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Old Jul 17, 2022 | 03:58 PM
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Old Jul 17, 2022 | 08:41 PM
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Old Jul 19, 2022 | 12:18 PM
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Originally Posted by civicdrivr
I want it. Bring it to the states so I can complain about it starting at $95k.
They watched what Audi priced the RS6 at. Now way it would come with less than six figure price tag.
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Looks like an 80's Volvo with a Bentley front end.
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Old Jul 21, 2022 | 08:36 PM
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Just a tad over 1000 whp....

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Old Jul 27, 2022 | 05:27 PM
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get either your $$ or your butthole ready. It is coming! Dont understand why they would bring the M5 Touring over but not M3. The reasons provided below are not very convincing.

BMW M5 Touring (G99) Makes More Sense For U.S. Than M3 Touring


American BMW fans are pretty cheesed off about the M3 Touring not coming ‘Stateside. The European market gets all the long-roof fun and us ‘Mericans are jealous. However, we won’t have to be too jealous for too long, as we’re going to be getting the next fast Bavarian wagon—the next-gen BMW M5 Touring.

The next-generation BMW
M5 Touring, codenamed ‘G99’, will be the first M5 Touring since the E61-generation car. When it debuts in 2024, it’s likely heading to the U.S., as we mentioned a while back. Unless something changes between now and then, the current plan is to offer the M5 Touring in the U.S. to take on cars like the Audi RS6 Avant and Mercedes-AMG E63 S Wagon. It’s not surprising that BMW intends to sell it here since the M5 Touring makes more sense than the M3 Touring for the American market.

Americans don’t seem to like wagons much but we do seem to like them if they’re two of our favorite things: big and powerful. We like all our cars to be oversized and powered by
V8 motors (Jeremy Clarkson impression voice). The BMW M5 Touring will be both of those things. It will be large, because it will be a 5 Series wagon, and large means luxury to some of us on this side of the pond. It will also be immensely powerful, thanks to its plug-in hybrid V8 powertrain. So despite wagons not being very popular here, an M5 Touring will sell, as both Audi and Mercedes have proven.

It will also likely be profitable. Because it’s big and powerful, it will also be expensive and expensive cars often have quite healthy profit margins. That probably factors into BMW’s decision making.

The powertrain will be the same as the XM, so it will get an S68 twin-turbocharged 4.4-liter V8 paired to an electric motor. That setup will send power through an eight-speed automatic transmission to all four wheels. The top-dog XM will make 750 horsepower but it’s unclear if the M5 will get that version of the powertrain or the more reasonable 650 horsepower version that powers the middle-ground XM. We’re betting on 750 hp.


Honestly, the details don’t matter to us American BMW fans. We’re just going to be happy that a proper M5 Touring will be coming ‘Stateside. There have only been two M5 Tourings in history, the
E34 and the E61. Neither of which made it across the Atlantic. Now, we’re likely going to get one and we’re very excited about it.
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Old Jul 28, 2022 | 08:18 AM
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Will be curious to see the take rate on it.
Hopefully it doesn't get Beaver-grille-ified.
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Old Jul 28, 2022 | 09:12 AM
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saw this yesterday, figured y'all might dig
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Old Jul 28, 2022 | 09:20 AM
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Real EVO Wagon, or a Lancer Sportback replica?
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Old Jul 28, 2022 | 09:45 AM
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I believe it was a real one.
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