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Old 12-02-2013, 03:13 PM
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was a joke, I didn't research all lights made for iphones prior to posting..
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Old 12-03-2013, 04:51 PM
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Wow, TripAdvisor needs to level the horizon on their Home page shot...


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Old 12-03-2013, 06:46 PM
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could it be a bad photoshop? because the stilts on the hut are vertically straight
Old 12-03-2013, 07:05 PM
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Originally Posted by stogie1020
Wow, TripAdvisor needs to level the horizon on their Home page shot...


thanks, now theres water all over my desk
Old 12-03-2013, 07:15 PM
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pic looks fine on my screen?

clear your cookies maybe?

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Old 12-04-2013, 06:02 AM
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"Job Rankings Claim Dishwasher a Better Job than Photojournalist"

Career-building website CareerCast.com has ranked the top 200 jobs, and “Photographer” and “Photojournalist” were ranked 172 and 188 respectively.
According to the study, which factors in “physical demands, work environment, income, stress, and hiring outlook,” noted the Wall Street Journal, photojournalist ranks just above “corrections officer” and just below “dishwasher.”

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Old 12-04-2013, 11:31 AM
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don't know if this is a repost, but this is totally amazing.

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yep. computers are amazing. frighteningly so.
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Originally Posted by pttl
yep. computers are amazing. frighteningly so.
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what I mean is, if you watch that Morgan Freeman thing and the thought in your head is "computers are amazing. frighteningly so" - I mean that is the same as saying wow, your camera takes awesome pictures!
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my camera does take awesome pitchures
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Originally Posted by srika
what I mean is, if you watch that Morgan Freeman thing and the thought in your head is "computers are amazing. frighteningly so" - I mean that is the same as saying wow, your camera takes awesome pictures!
I know what you're saying. But what I'm saying is…I'd like to see that artist take a set of pastels or pencil/charcoal…what ever, and create such an image. It wouldn't be possible. I've seen some astonishingly good hand crafted renderings of the human face and none have ever gotten close the detail with life like realism of that computer aided rendering. That's not a knock on the artist...I'm not taking anything away from him. He obviously has the skill and more importantly the vision to bring such a rendering to life. It just is what it is...He is simply using the medium at his disposal. Just as digital photographers use their cameras and lightroom and photoshop et al to create their images.

The "frightening" part is…if some demented mind wanted to turn such technology against people…where would that go?
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pttl, I just disagree on every level. Give my 6 year old daughter that same iPad and have her at it with paint. Will you still say computers are amazing? Give my 60 year old mother-in-law a 1DX. She'll snap and shoot at eye level for everything that she sees. Will you still say the camera is amazing?

It is the operator that is amazing.
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Originally Posted by mdkxtreme
pttl, I just disagree on every level. Give my 6 year old daughter that same iPad and have her at it with paint. Will you still say computers are amazing? Give my 60 year old mother-in-law a 1DX. She'll snap and shoot at eye level for everything that she sees. Will you still say the camera is amazing?

It is the operator that is amazing.
Maybe you didn't see when I said this:
That's not a knock on the artist...I'm not taking anything away from him. He obviously has the skill and more importantly the vision to bring such a rendering to life.
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You mad bro?

I already read all that big text you just showed. And your statement is a fallacy. You are not an artist but you come off as speaking for the art world that that kind of detail is not possible.

The reason why that iPad painting shows great detail is because of small pixels. The paint brush cannot beat a pixel. But give a painter the biggest canvas you can find, as big as a building perhaps. The playing field will be even with the iPad and I'll bet the painter can put in the same level of detail as that iPad.
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Originally Posted by mdkxtreme
You mad bro?

I already read all that big text you just showed. And your statement is a fallacy. You are not an artist but you come off as speaking for the art world that that kind of detail is not possible.

The reason why that iPad painting shows great detail is because of small pixels. The paint brush cannot beat a pixel. But give a painter the biggest canvas you can find, as big as a building perhaps. The playing field will be even with the iPad and I'll bet the painter can put in the same level of detail as that iPad.
Am I mad? Why would I be mad at someone who clearly is not understanding my intent.

I'm not an artist? Do you know me? Do you know anything at all about me or what I do? Beside the obvious fact that I am a photo hobbyist? I think the answer to all of those questions would be no. So lets just move along.
Oh and I would never presume to speak for the "art world" as you like to call it.


I'll say it this way:
The iPad artist is clearly skilled. Would he be able to achieve that level of detail that he did without a computer. I doubt it. I will add that I have clearly not seen all the hand rendered work of every artist on the planet. But, of the work I have seen, none of it looked as detailed as a photo. The computer is a means to an end. It is the tool with which he chooses to work. The tool doesn't have he vision it takes to accomplish what he did. pretty simple actually.

So I guess what you seem to want to argue is whether or not an artist, without a computer, can achieve the level of detail and realism that an artist with a computer can. I say no. That is simply based on the art I have been involved with and that I have seen in my life time. Is that the fallacy in my statement?

If you would like to get a canvas as "big as a building" and have an artist create such a rendering you let me know when I can go see it.
Old 12-04-2013, 09:26 PM
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The person that did that on an iPad, clearly has the skills to do it the old fashion way.
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Originally Posted by pttl
Am I mad? Why would I be mad at someone who clearly is not understanding my intent.

I'm not an artist? Do you know me? Do you know anything at all about me or what I do? Beside the obvious fact that I am a photo hobbyist? I think the answer to all of those questions would be no. So lets just move along.
Oh and I would never presume to speak for the "art world" as you like to call it.


I'll say it this way:
The iPad artist is clearly skilled. Would he be able to achieve that level of detail that he did without a computer. I doubt it. I will add that I have clearly not seen all the hand rendered work of every artist on the planet. But, of the work I have seen, none of it looked as detailed as a photo. The computer is a means to an end. It is the tool with which he chooses to work. The tool doesn't have he vision it takes to accomplish what he did. pretty simple actually.

So I guess what you seem to want to argue is whether or not an artist, without a computer, can achieve the level of detail and realism that an artist with a computer can. I say no. That is simply based on the art I have been involved with and that I have seen in my life time. Is that the fallacy in my statement?

If you would like to get a canvas as "big as a building" and have an artist create such a rendering you let me know when I can go see it.
The fact that you gave the computer the "frighteningly" description made me jump in. The computer is a simple machine. It is the ingenuity of humans that gave the computer "frightening" capabilities. As a major in Computer Science and a software developer, I know what it takes to develop that painting app and the photo editing app you all love. The computer is not frightening. It's those who use tools correctly that are frightening.

And if you didn't emphasize like this I would love to continue this "discussion" and not to assume of you getting mad.
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Originally Posted by mdkxtreme
You mad bro?

I already read all that big text you just showed. And your statement is a fallacy. You are not an artist but you come off as speaking for the art world that that kind of detail is not possible.

The reason why that iPad painting shows great detail is because of small pixels. The paint brush cannot beat a pixel. But give a painter the biggest canvas you can find, as big as a building perhaps. The playing field will be even with the iPad and I'll bet the painter can put in the same level of detail as that iPad.
this is sad to read.

perhaps it is true now, but being an artist myself (I draw, have drawn since I was a kid) - and an old skool one at that - I can't help but disagree. The very existence of pixels means its not nearly as accurate an image as something drawn or painted with a brush. Obviously with today's high resolution displays this is not really a factor anymore, as we go by what is visible to the eye.

Also having tried design and drawing on a computer, my personal impression is that it is insurmountably harder to draw on a digital device, even using a stylus or digitizer, and achieve natural looking results. And that is why this ipad video is so impressive. Just my 2 cents on the matter.
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^ Ahhh I didn't mean it like that. I meant the tip of a paint brush cannot be drawn to the size of a pixel, that's why the paint brush can't get in the same amount of detail as what is shown on that iPad.
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Originally Posted by mdkxtreme
^ Ahhh I didn't mean it like that. I meant the tip of a paint brush cannot be drawn to the size of a pixel, that's why the paint brush can't get in the same amount of detail as what is shown on that iPad.
oh ok. also in regard to erasing and making edits a computer gives you new possibilities. and you can zoom in.

ok anyways.
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Gees what have I started. I've seen a finished picture of the render and thought it was a photograph. I thought no f@cking way this can be a drawn an iPad and then I watched the video and learned that I'm a talentless POS.
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Gees what have I started. I've seen a finished picture of the render and thought it was a photograph. I thought no f@cking way this can be a drawn an iPad and then I watched the video and learned that I'm a talentless POS.
yeah I felt similarly lol
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Security guards grab and wrestle to the ground freelance photojournalist Kristoffer Tripplaar to stop him from photographing a protest about the minimum wage at a McDonald's restaurant inside the Smithsonian's National Air and Space Museum in Washington.
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That's messed up. Smithsonian guards have never given me any problems. I'm guessing McDonalds put them up to it.
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nice - I gotta say, it's a nice little sucker. it wows me from time to time with its resolution and definition.
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