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Old 10-24-2013, 01:58 PM
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Interesting point about adjusting the image for the site Jup, hadn't thought about that.

Having said that, some of the pics just simply hurt to look at... and they would have been (IMO) fantastic pics without the bump in saturation.
It's the same as adjusting your image for printing. You have to pump up the image to get what you want on on paper.
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Originally Posted by stogie1020
Over the last few days I have been looking at a fair number of photos on 500px and Flickr, and all I have to say is....


The saturation slider should cost extra money.


So many people seem to get their picture to a good place in Post and then they look at it and say, "Well, if +5 on saturation is good, +25 must be better!"

My eyes hurt. Nearly any RAW capture could benefit form some tweaks, including saturation, but it IMO it should be used like habanero pepper in cooking. Sparingly, for fear of overpowering.
Please post an example please
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is flickr like, super slow for anyone else? click on a pic and it takes a while to load?
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Originally Posted by stogie1020
Over the last few days I have been looking at a fair number of photos on 500px and Flickr, and all I have to say is....


The saturation slider should cost extra money.


So many people seem to get their picture to a good place in Post and then they look at it and say, "Well, if +5 on saturation is good, +25 must be better!"

My eyes hurt. Nearly any RAW capture could benefit form some tweaks, including saturation, but it IMO it should be used like habanero pepper in cooking. Sparingly, for fear of overpowering.
I believe I have done some recently.

http://www.flickr.com/photos/delobbo/10353159523/http://www.flickr.com/photos/delobbo/10353159523/ by http://www.flickr.com/people/delobbo/, on Flickr


http://www.flickr.com/photos/delobbo/10352661923/http://www.flickr.com/photos/delobbo/10352661923/ by http://www.flickr.com/people/delobbo/, on Flickr


http://www.flickr.com/photos/delobbo/10352195824/http://www.flickr.com/photos/delobbo/10352195824/ by http://www.flickr.com/people/delobbo/, on Flickr
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Old 10-25-2013, 07:58 AM
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Anyone know of really good vantage points from which to get great panos of NYC?
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Originally Posted by Mizouse
Please post an example please
Look, let me start by saying that most of photography is "Art", so make it look however you like to fit your vision.

Having said that (and having been guilty of being heavy handed on the saturation slider myself), here are some shots that I personally feel are overcooked. Of course this is subjective, and of course the fact I have been looking at and planning B+W shots a lot lately has affected my sensitivity, but here are a few (absolutely no disrespect to the photographers, I think these are great compositions, exposures, etc):

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<img src="http://ppcdn.500px.org/26133205/78327416bb247d61eab70a8aab57fe1d0dd06ef3/3.jpg" width="280" height="280" alt="Untitled by Tom Corey on 500px.com" border="0" style="margin: 0 0 5px 0;">
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<a href="http://500px.com/photo/26133205">Untitled</a> by <a href="http://500px.com/TomCorey">
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<a href="http://500px.com/photo/26334651">
<img src="http://ppcdn.500px.org/26334651/4e0636da656c6b120a72cafd3cef8d2386234ced/3.jpg" width="280" height="280" alt="Tucson Sunset by Steve Steinmetz on 500px.com" border="0" style="margin: 0 0 5px 0;">
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<a href="http://500px.com/photo/26334651">Tucson Sunset</a> by <a href="http://500px.com/sjspix">
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<img src="http://ppcdn.500px.org/49573508/f71269e06b82723f459717264d8337a8c4357b76/3.jpg" width="280" height="280" alt="Valley View by Mark Myhaver on 500px.com" border="0" style="margin: 0 0 5px 0;">
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<a href="http://500px.com/photo/49573508">Valley View</a> by <a href="http://500px.com/Myhaver">
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None of the above are extreme, or powerful HDR or anything, just what I would consider a "too liberal" use of oversaturation. I live in the desert, I know what it looks like and can spot what, to me, would be mis-representitive greens, yellows, etc.
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Originally Posted by pttl
Anyone know of really good vantage points from which to get great panos of NYC?
You have to go to Jersey, start at Liberty Park
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Old 10-25-2013, 11:35 AM
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I like those you posted stogie. haha
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Yea it's all personal preference. I like them too, but I do think they're a bit over saturated.
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Originally Posted by jupitersolo
You have to go to Jersey, start at Liberty Park
What is this "jersey" you speak of?
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Canon's cheat sheet. lol

Old 10-26-2013, 08:20 AM
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Got a letter from Adobe yesterday in the mail as a follow-up to the hack that had all of us change our passwords...
On behalf of Adobe Systems, I am writing to inform you about an incident that involved information about you.
They're offering 1 year of free credit monitoring, suggesting we monitor our credit accounts (duh), check our credit reports, add fraud alerts and consider a security freeze on credit file.

Yikes. I may take them up on the credit monitoring deal.
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I am thinking about picking up a new DSLR.
Currently have a Canon Rebel XT (w/kit), the 50 1.8 and 70-300 (non-L). I also have a Panasonic GX1 (w/kit) and 20 1.7.

I am leaning towards the 70D. I like what I am reading about this camera.

Here are my questions:
I like landscape photography so I am leaning towards the 70D w/18-135 as a kit and a 10-22. However, for the same price I can get the 70D body and the 17-55.
Which would you recommend?


I did look into the Nikon D7100, but my familiarity with Canon plus that fact that I do have some (not a lot) of money tied into Canon gear led me towards the Canon.
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I'd go with the 70D 17-55 combo. Save up a nice 70-200L lens.
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cmschmie, if you like landscape photography I really recommend the Sigma 8-16. Yes it's a Sigma but I had absolutely no problem with mine when I bought it used. I sold it because I was focusing on my automotive hobby and since it was a specialty lens, I didn't use it as much as I would like. It actually has lower distortion than the Tokina 11-16. I don't know too much about the 10-22 but I was definitely happy with the 8-16.

One bad thing is that this lens is slow. But since I was doing mainly landscape, there were always plenty of light. And if the light was low, I'd always use a tripod. But then again if you can live without the 8mm, nothing is wrong with the 10-22.
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Originally Posted by Mizouse
I'd go with the 70D 17-55 combo. Save up a nice 70-200L lens.
You missed landscape photography in that post, going to need some wider than 17mm (over 27mm cropped body).......
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Originally Posted by mdkxtreme

One bad thing is that this lens is slow. But since I was doing mainly landscape, there were always plenty of light. And if the light was low, I'd always use a tripod. But then again if you can live without the 8mm, nothing is wrong with the 10-22.
yeah, if you're really into landscapes, unless it's high noon with plenty of light, always be prepared and have a tripod. Because you should always stop down for the sharpest capture. At the very least, have one of those Gorillapods (the heavy duty ones)
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Originally Posted by jupitersolo
You missed landscape photography in that post, going to need some wider than 17mm (over 27mm cropped body).......
Who says you need wide angle for landscapes?


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Originally Posted by Mizouse
Who says you need wide angle for landscapes?


Tell me many who don't have wider than 17mm crop that do shoot landscapes?
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Originally Posted by is300eater
yeah, if you're really into landscapes, unless it's high noon with plenty of light, always be prepared and have a tripod. Because you should always stop down for the sharpest capture. At the very least, have one of those Gorillapods (the heavy duty ones)
And that's not going to work....
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Originally Posted by cmschmie
I am thinking about picking up a new DSLR.
Currently have a Canon Rebel XT (w/kit), the 50 1.8 and 70-300 (non-L). I also have a Panasonic GX1 (w/kit) and 20 1.7.

I am leaning towards the 70D. I like what I am reading about this camera.

Here are my questions:
I like landscape photography so I am leaning towards the 70D w/18-135 as a kit and a 10-22. However, for the same price I can get the 70D body and the 17-55.
Which would you recommend?


I did look into the Nikon D7100, but my familiarity with Canon plus that fact that I do have some (not a lot) of money tied into Canon gear led me towards the Canon.
Well, how much are both kits? Off hand i would get the 70D w/17-55. as forth a 10-22. I loved that lens. Actually that lens is getting cheaper

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Asianspec 17-55 is constant 2.8 + IS

I loved that lens on my XTi and 40D

It was my PJ work horse.
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Asianspec 17-55 is constant 2.8 + IS

I loved that lens on my XTi and 40D

It was my PJ work horse.
Yes. i know.
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Yes. i know.
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Originally Posted by cmschmie
I am thinking about picking up a new DSLR.
Currently have a Canon Rebel XT (w/kit), the 50 1.8 and 70-300 (non-L). I also have a Panasonic GX1 (w/kit) and 20 1.7.

I am leaning towards the 70D. I like what I am reading about this camera.

Here are my questions:
I like landscape photography so I am leaning towards the 70D w/18-135 as a kit and a 10-22. However, for the same price I can get the 70D body and the 17-55.
Which would you recommend?


I did look into the Nikon D7100, but my familiarity with Canon plus that fact that I do have some (not a lot) of money tied into Canon gear led me towards the Canon.
You sound like a buddy of mine here in DC. He had a Rebel XS and also liked landscape photography. He got a 7D and the Tamron 17-50 2/8 and has been quite happy with it. He's taking the combo to the Utah deserts this week... I'm sure he'll do fine, as would you with a similar combo.
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Thanks for the replies everyone. I may lean slightly towards the 17-55 since the max aperture does allow more flexibility for low light situations.

However, the 18-135 (or 15-85 ) would make an damn good walk around lens due to the focal length. Plus I think the 10-22 is coming down in the price and the similarly priced Sigma 8-16 had a pretty good review on The Digital Picture.com.
Decisions decisions




Just a random question based on my research over the last couple weeks.
Are companies getting away from CF cards? Both the 70D and D7100 are SD card only.
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I think so since they're finally catching up to speed of CF cards.
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SD cards are physically smaller, so it makes sense if the speeds are equal (or nearly).
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This is why you want better than 18mm on a cropped body...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9ov2pHV98Fc#t=221
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Originally Posted by cmschmie
Thanks for the replies everyone. I may lean slightly towards the 17-55 since the max aperture does allow more flexibility for low light situations.

However, the 18-135 (or 15-85 ) would make an damn good walk around lens due to the focal length. Plus I think the 10-22 is coming down in the price and the similarly priced Sigma 8-16 had a pretty good review on The Digital Picture.com.
Decisions decisions




Just a random question based on my research over the last couple weeks.
Are companies getting away from CF cards? Both the 70D and D7100 are SD card only.
Me personally, i am trying to stay away from crop sensored lenses because of always wanting to go to full frame, but also if you want to sell, you aren't limited to only crop sensored users. like the 18-135, i would go with the 28-135mm IS

could be a possibly since it is small and cheaper to buy. i still prefer CF cards though.
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Originally Posted by jupitersolo
This is why you want better than 18mm on a cropped body...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9ov2pHV98Fc#t=221
The one thing I will say about that video that BP fails to mention is that in many situations, a person with a crop sensor and 18mm simply has to back up a little bit to achieve the same composition. I know, not always possible, but when it is, it sure works...
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Zoom with your feet. Not a problem when shooting barns, and sometimes even gives you other shots while you're walking to get the compo you want. Shoot with a prime enough and you'll get used to it.

That said, widest I have is 17mm (on the 17-55) but IQ is so bad at the edges that I rarely use the full crop at that focal length


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