kurtatx

For the record, Stunna has no authority to declare anyone a "hatter" because he has never actually owned the car and is uninformed. The fact is, he can't differentiate factual impressions and criticisms from "FUD" because he simply doesn't have enough experience with Tesla or EVs in general.

If Stunna had any actual clue, he would be much more critical and skeptical as that's what Tesla currently warrants.

#1 STUNNA

So EA intentionally chooses to suck?

I could totally be as good a quarter back as Tom Brady, but I don’t want to be that good

kurtatx

Your analogy is more like

"How could you like chicken fingers when you voted for Donald Trump?"

It makes no fucking sense because you get all your Tesla feedback from $TSLA twitter and not from actual owner experiences.

#1 STUNNA

in this video he discusses how the infamous Tesla “phantom braking” when driving under overpasses is caused by the radar sensor so it will finally be fixed when switching to vision only

#1 STUNNA

Don’t most of Tesla Twitter actually own Teslas, and they’ve had them for longer than you and their combined experience is more than yours alone?

Are you drunk rn?

kurtatx

Honestly, most of them haven't had the cars very long, haven't been exposed to other cars, and have no reference for the rest of the EV space.

And I quit drinking, you *redacted because I'm not getting banned for your shitty ass takes*

kurtatx

Stunna worships Elon, but not enough to buy one of his cars.

🙃🙃🙃🙃

That's all anyone needs to know.

#1 STUNNA

LOL ok

kurtatx

You know you're a troll when you extoll the virtue of a car brand you but don't actually have any ownership experience

"I don't own one, but the guy on Twitter who posts his referral code and gets 1000 free supercharger miles when I buy a Tesla says I shouldn't buy anything but a Tesla"

FFS Stunna

biker

It would be nice to have meaningful news posted on an Automotive News thread, instead of continuous Tesla talking points. Oh, and we get it, everyone else sucks, no need to post "news" in other threads either.

Biker, who simply does not get the fanboism.

Comfy

I thought this was pretty good news. But yes, one to one talks get boring quickly.

SamDoe1

Probably because EA doesn't have enough stations for it to matter. Around here, they have exactly one charging point in the metro area and it's on the other side of town from me. EA isn't a big player yet but hopefully they'll get there.

What would anticipating a rush hour help with?

Because they haven't done it even though they can. My point is that it's not technologically impossible, or even improbably for another company to do what you described. It's just that simple.

Teslas are really good cars with good tech but they're not as technologically advanced as you seem to think they are when it comes to stuff outside of the EV drivetrain. Probably not a lot further ahead of any other car at a similar price point to be honest. Source: Me, because I own and live with one every day.

My car doesn't have radar and phantom brakes all the time. It's annoying AF and hopefully they can address it in an update soon. It's also super jerky in traffic and not at all refined. My 2018 VW did a lot better with auto driving in traffic than this 2021 Tesla so again, hopefully they can update it to make it better soon. It's about the same as the vision based system in our Subaru.

Source: Me, because I own one and live with it every day.

Comfy

I think it’ll help with planning a trip, or adjust the timing accordingly.

And you need to talk with Kurt because he doesn’t believe anyone is buying Tesla simply because of Supercharger access only. Well , never mind.

pttl

Does this phantom braking only happen when you are in autopilot mode or whatever its called?

BurnabyTSX

Plenty of other automakers use radar for their forward collision warning/automated braking systems/dynamic cruise. You would think if radar was so bad we would hear about phantom braking across all brands.

Haven't had any such issues with my radar-based RX as an anecdote. Sounds more like bad implementation, or just bad justification for cost cutting measures.

SamDoe1

Adjust timing for what? Cars need to charge and people have desired drive speeds. If someone gets there and there isn't a spot then TFB, they have to wait. You can select how much the car will charge to in the car or on the app for before you leave. Also, the car will tell you how much to charge in order to reach the next stop.

Yeah, only while in the autopilot (adaptive cruise) mode. It doesn't happen if you're driving it manually.

oonowindoo

Actually you are correct. You could be just as good as him, maybe even better. But because you are LAZY AF and dont work as hard as him and didnt make the right decision in your life, that is why you are not Tom Brady.

how good you can be is entirely up to yourself and your decisions.

If you chose not to be that good, well that is on you.

Comfy

WOW, what a fantastic and fitting analogy you have given for EA / Legacy vs Tesla.
Did you just realize what you said. . LOL.

well,….. today is not your day, but wishing you good.

kurtatx

You tell us with your...

one sec....

Acura RDX

oonowindoo

WTF are you talking about. That was for Stunna wanna be like Tom Brady...

How you can go from that to Tesla is .... well you are delusional after all.

oonowindoo

I wonder if he had even spent any seat time in a Tesla before... i mean other than sitting in one in a show room.

kurtatx

I'll be honest, if he sat in one and drove one, he'd love it. He should because it is great.

That being said, as far ahead as Tesla in some areas, they are literally decades behind in others.

SamDoe1

This.

oonowindoo

Not saying he wont love it... But he would give the specifics, instead of what "other people" said.

I have plenty of seat time in different models... well.. 2 to be exact
So I know why people love it. I like it a lot too... but there are also a lot of areas that i really dislike as well.

But if he actually sat in one or had any kind of reasonable seat time, he would notice that the car is far from perfect. and he is trying to make it sound like the car is pretty much perfect... from interior to quality to tech to FSD to charging to everything.

SamDoe1

That's unpossible, Lord Elon says that Tesla does everything better and no other automaker can do what they do.

oonowindoo

That we are the best, no one is better than us type of shit is why we have so many hatttters here.. it has nothing to do with the cars.

Musk 2024?

biker

If he was eligible, I'm sure there'd be plenty of supporters, at least two from this thread alone.

Comfy

We all knew exactly what you were talking about. Just trying to spin it and have some fun. LOL. May be you’re right I’m delusional. Ha ha.

Comfy

Recently I had a weekend with Model 3 from a friend and also driven the first gen Model S from another one at different times. Not had any seat time with SUVs. I know that’s not enough, but I do know what I’m talking about.
But you guys are right, the interior didn’t impress me greatly (one reason being he keeps the car interior absolutely trash - uses it for construction materials ) but I like the power train.
I don’t have any showrooms within reasonable driving range.

#1 STUNNA

Nah probably not

#1 STUNNA

In the Karpathy video I posted yesterday he disclosed that they have the 5th largest super computer in the world to train their FSD AI and it's powered by a bunch of nvidia's 80GB a100 GPUs. They're still working on "project dojo" their custom built silicon that's designed specifically to training FSD AI. Nvidia's GPUs are very powerful but more general purpose

civicdrivr

iTrader: (9)

Man, wonder how much power that data center is using. Surely Musk has an issue with it, no?

SamDoe1

I would definitely not call the refreshed interior trash. It's way better than it used to be, no hard dodgy plastics to be found in places you'd actually go. Seats are comfortable though they could use more bolstering.

oonowindoo

It is using an alternate source of energy from an alternate reality. So he is cool with it...

anoop

https://www.caranddriver.com/reviews...el-y-compared/
I was surprised by their pick.

kurtatx

"Car and Driver is paid by the big oil lobby. Hold, on I need to get an oil change on the RDX" - Comfy

Comfy

I’m not at all surprised

​​​​​​​Correct on both counts. Just finished an oil change last week.
By the way I saw a blue Model Y during a gathering yesterday and it was flawless on the outside. The paint quality looked fabulous and panel gaps were perfect. I’m guessing the owner must have done some sort of coating on the paint since it was better than any other car in the parking lot.

Sarlacc

I read that article. It’s quite biased against Tesla from the first paragraph.

I’m sure Tesla doesn’t play ball well with others and it irks the rags. But it’s not a fair comparison to use a one year older with an already changed interior against a brand new model.

ive driven both more than once. I like the Mach-E. I think Ford knocked it out of the parked if you get an awd model. And aside from my wife not liking the ride on the mach-e…there are still reasons I chose the model Y over it.

this comparison could easily go either way. But when you start of the article saying the things they said…the bias is shown and credibility goes out the window with regards to the author.

#1 STUNNA

How much money does ford spend advertising at C&D compared to Tesla…

anoop

I don't think that's a fair statement because when C&D pit the Model S against the Taycan, the Model S won.
https://www.caranddriver.com/reviews...s-performance/

Generally speaking, the Mach-E receives high marks from reviewers on looks, fit & finish, actual range in moderate weather, and driving comfort. If I didn't rate seat comfort so high, the Mach-E would be a no brainer, even with the sketchy charging infrastructure, since I don't do many road trips. But given seat comfort and charging infrastructure, for me at least the Model Y wins. It also helps that Tesla has had years of real world experience so their car is overall going to be better sorted out. Mach-E on the other hand is an unknown quantity when it comes to long term reliability.

The article also fails to mention that the Mach-E doesn't have a heat pump while the Model Y does, which is a huge advantage for the Model Y in cold weather.