Tesla: Development and Technology News
#161
Ex-OEM King
Regardless, even though it's a work in progress, FSD is stuck in level 2 and isn't intended to go past that.
#162
Whats up with RDX owners?
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#163
Ex-OEM King
#164
Tesla doesn't offer those functionalities for free, but...
Carmakers with level 2 autonomous vehicles:
Audi - Traffic Jam Assist
Cadillac - Super Cruise
Mercedes - Driver Assistance System
Tesla - Autopilot
Volvo - Pilot Assist
And level 3:
Honda - Sensing Elite (this is the only production car with a level 3 or greater system)
Carmakers with level 2 autonomous vehicles:
Audi - Traffic Jam Assist
Cadillac - Super Cruise
Mercedes - Driver Assistance System
Tesla - Autopilot
Volvo - Pilot Assist
And level 3:
Honda - Sensing Elite (this is the only production car with a level 3 or greater system)
If the Honda system works on city streets with full traffic lights /cones recognition and acts autonomously, then it’s great. How much they charge for it?
Last edited by Comfy; 04-16-2021 at 11:27 AM.
#165
#166
Moderator
Autopilot (which appears similar to adaptive cruise, which is standard equip on many ICE vehicles) does appear to be included, but FSD is a $10k add-on, at least on the Model 3, based on the current Tesla site.
Last edited by 00TL-P3.2; 04-16-2021 at 11:37 AM.
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#167
Ex-OEM King
#168
Whats up with RDX owners?
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Correct. However their $10k FSD suite is still a level 2 system.
#169
Ex-OEM King
#170
#171
Sanest Florida Man
#172
Sanest Florida Man
Tesla owners are saying it isn’t possible for autopilot to have been engaged because there are no line markers on that road, it won’t run on a road without line markers
Last edited by #1 STUNNA; 04-18-2021 at 07:27 PM.
#173
Azine Jabroni
Don't worry. Those two died so the algorithm could work better.
#174
Can't use Full Self Driving on roads without lane lines? Interesting. $10k option
#175
Sanest Florida Man
So the only “evidence“ that auto pilot was on was when they looked at the crash there was no dead body sitting in the driver’s seat. Maybe the driver didn’t put a seatbelt on and ran into a tree at 60 miles an hour flinging him from the driver seat into the back where he died.
so fucking ridiculous
so fucking ridiculous
#176
Sanest Florida Man
#177
Sanest Florida Man
so they backed out of his driveway drove a few hundred yards and crashed on a road with no lane markers which means auto pilot could not have been enabled but yet this is still auto pilot‘s fault and auto pilot costs $10,000
Costco logic…
#178
Azine Jabroni
#179
Azine Jabroni
https://twitter.com/wholemarsblog/st...477985287?s=21
so they backed out of his driveway drove a few hundred yards and crashed on a road with no lane markers which means auto pilot could not have been enabled but yet this is still auto pilot‘s fault and auto pilot costs $10,000
Costco logic…
so they backed out of his driveway drove a few hundred yards and crashed on a road with no lane markers which means auto pilot could not have been enabled but yet this is still auto pilot‘s fault and auto pilot costs $10,000
Costco logic…
#180
Sanest Florida Man
Auto pilot won’t enable if someone isn’t in the driver seat
Last edited by #1 STUNNA; 04-18-2021 at 08:34 PM.
#181
Azine Jabroni
Auto pilot won’t enable if someone isn’t in the driver seat
https://twitter.com/mliebow/status/1...594789895?s=21
https://twitter.com/mliebow/status/1...594789895?s=21
#182
Ex-OEM King
So the only “evidence“ that auto pilot was on was when they looked at the crash there was no dead body sitting in the driver’s seat. Maybe the driver didn’t put a seatbelt on and ran into a tree at 60 miles an hour flinging him from the driver seat into the back where he died.
so fucking ridiculous
so fucking ridiculous
This.
This seems like terrible implementation...
#183
Sanest Florida Man
#184
Sanest Florida Man
They may have been in cruise control but cruise control isn’t autopilot
#185
Sanest Florida Man
Seems like at 11:30 on a Saturday night two drunk idiots enabled cruise control on a street with no line markers climbed into the backseat and died. Seems like a Darwin award nominee to me
#186
Sanest Florida Man
#187
Sanest Florida Man
#188
Azine Jabroni
Who needs PR when you have deluded assholes like Stunna to clean up your messes?
Tesla has the best PR money can't buy.
Tesla has the best PR money can't buy.
#189
Sanest Florida Man
yeah maybe, I enjoyed debunking all of the climate change denier bs on this forum for the last decade. Now idiots are spreading bs about the company that's doing the most to prevent the worst effects of climate change so here I am correcting falsehoods with facts and logic.
Good job debunking all the facts I posted with a hypocritical ad hominem
Last edited by #1 STUNNA; 04-18-2021 at 10:39 PM.
#190
Yes it's ridiculous, but unfortunately it's gonna get even more expensive and approach ludicrous in near future. Not sure I totally agree with that (closer to $100K in value), but, that's what the projection is when Robotaxis are fully operational.
#191
Sanest Florida Man
#192
Ex-OEM King
Technology gets cheaper with time, not the other way around. Not too long ago autopilot was a $7k add on, now it's free. I wouldn't (and won't) pay $10k for a feature that isn't guaranteed to work.
#193
Azine Jabroni
#194
Sanest Florida Man
You really want to blame autopilot for a death on a road when facts show that it won't work unless someone is in the front seat, the seat belt is clicked in and the road has lane markers. The facts of this case doesn't meet all of those requirements so instead of admitting that autopilot wasn't enabled your only option is ad hominem attacks
#195
Sanest Florida Man
I wonder if news articles nationwide were written every time someone abused cruise control and did dumb shit like this
We're there people going on message boards blaming the manufacturers every time someone abused a safety feature
Last edited by #1 STUNNA; 04-19-2021 at 09:49 AM.
#196
Ex-OEM King
When an automaker makes a claim that their car is able to perform "FULL self driving" it is absolutely appropriate to question and blame said automaker for resultant deaths related to use of said feature.
#197
Azine Jabroni
“Well, Autopilot is getting good enough that you won't need to drive most of the time. I find you can rest your hand on your knee"
However, Tesla's legal team in early march admitted "full self driving" will always be Level 2 (in other words, not full self driving)
#198
Ex-OEM King
Well, and the problem is Elon is straight lying about it. On Joe Rogan he said
“Well, Autopilot is getting good enough that you won't need to drive most of the time. I find you can rest your hand on your knee"
However, Tesla's legal team in early march admitted "full self driving" will always be Level 2 (in other words, not full self driving)
“Well, Autopilot is getting good enough that you won't need to drive most of the time. I find you can rest your hand on your knee"
However, Tesla's legal team in early march admitted "full self driving" will always be Level 2 (in other words, not full self driving)
#199
https://twitter.com/gauthiergarnier/...71764426788868
I wonder if news articles nationwide were written every time someone abused cruise control and did dumb shit like this
We're there people going on message boards blaming the manufacturers every time someone abused a safety feature
I wonder if news articles nationwide were written every time someone abused cruise control and did dumb shit like this
We're there people going on message boards blaming the manufacturers every time someone abused a safety feature
#200