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Old 04-07-2021, 08:40 AM
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this install is happening in Beaver Utah. The Tesla employee said he has been doing supercharger installs for a while in California. This was the first prefabricated one with the stalls ready to go on a concrete slab. It looks a lot like the temp stations that sit on semis during busy times.

He said it helped the install go much quicker and smoother. Semi arrived yesterday around noon and they are finishing up wiring tonight.

This location also will have mega packs and the expansion is going to be 24 V3 stalls but they are lighting up the first 8 before the remaining 16. I’m not sure if that’s new or just due to spring break.

According to the installer, this is a new process that Tesla will be using to speed up installs in the future.
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Old 04-07-2021, 09:04 PM
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Yup, speed up every little process. That's how you gain market share.
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Wow, no radar, ...that's insane.

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Not really, billions of people drive everyday without a radar, AI just needs to emulate that, it's clearly possible.

There are many many examples of AI emulating and beating human intelligence, it's just a matter of time.
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Originally Posted by #1 STUNNA
Not really, billions of people drive everyday without a radar, AI just needs to emulate that, it's clearly possible.

There are many many examples of AI emulating and beating human intelligence, it's just a matter of time.
I get that. What I’m saying is that it’ll lose the advantage of “seeing ahead of the car in front” by virtue of low frequency radar (which was one of the advantages of Tesla cars as compared to human driving).
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Originally Posted by #1 STUNNA
Not really, billions of people drive everyday without a radar, AI just needs to emulate that, it's clearly possible.

There are many many examples of AI emulating and beating human intelligence, it's just a matter of time.
Wanna know how I know you have no idea what you're talking about?
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I guess this answers my question. Thanks.
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Does the Taycan, ID.4, or MachE have this capability?
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Here’s what Tesla‘s former CTO JB Straubel has been up to lately. Tesla is using the recycled materials from Redwood to help make new battery packs

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Can gasoline be recycled and reused after it’s been burned?
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On the timescale of decades a company like Redwood could be a very profitable long term investment. If the logistical supply chain is created that allows people to recycle all of their electronics and a company like redwood is able to recover 95 to 98% of the materials from the battery than the need to mine new materials will decrease a lot over time and a company like redwood would mostly replace mining industry
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Does the Taycan, Etron, MachE, or ID.4 have this feature?
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Originally Posted by #1 STUNNA

Why haven't the legacy auto companies been using this tech for decades, why is Tesla the first to use this massive time/cost saving technology?
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How does a legacy auto company compete against Tesla when the structural battery pack, 4680 cells, battery chemistry improvements reduce battery costs by 56% and the Giga Press saves 40% on frame manufacturing costs, and hours of labor?

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Originally Posted by #1 STUNNA
How does a legacy auto company compete against Tesla when the structural battery pack, 4680 cells, battery chemistry improvements reduce battery costs by 56% and the Giga Press saves 40% on frame manufacturing costs, and hours of labor?
With decades of experience, enormous infrastructure, and a supply chain several miles deep.
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Originally Posted by Elon Musk
Almost ready with FSD Beta V9.0. Step change improvement is massive, especially for weird corner cases & bad weather. Pure vision, no radar.
This may explain how Tesla FSD will work with bad weather using ideas based off of a Stanford research paper released last year

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Originally Posted by #1 STUNNA
https://twitter.com/SawyerMerritt/st...54687371296771

Why haven't the legacy auto companies been using this tech for decades, why is Tesla the first to use this massive time/cost saving technology?
C8 Corvette uses large aluminum castings from GM's Bedford castings facility.

https://www.imsa.com/news/2020/02/21...is-technology/
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I'm aware of that, one model out of thousands, and the rear isn't a single piece like the Y. Any plans to include it in other vehicles? Currently the Y is the only one since that was the vehicle they were developing at the time of investigating this tech, the Cybertruck is next, probably Semi too, and overtime the old manufacturing process on the S, 3, X will be replaced with this. The 25k vehicle will also have this tech since it's one of the big costing saving methods they'll use to get an EV down to that price target. By the end of the year they should be scaling up production of the Y in Germany using single piece front and rear castings, connected to a structural battery pack
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Originally Posted by #1 STUNNA
I'm aware of that, one model out of thousands, and the rear isn't a single piece like the Y. Any plans to include it in other vehicles? Currently the Y is the only one since that was the vehicle they were developing at the time of investigating this tech, the Cybertruck is next, probably Semi too, and overtime the old manufacturing process on the S, 3, X will be replaced with this. The 25k vehicle will also have this tech since it's one of the big costing saving methods they'll use to get an EV down to that price target. By the end of the year they should be scaling up production of the Y in Germany using single piece front and rear castings, connected to a structural battery pack
A Chevy Equinox has a shit ton more parts and complexity of assembly than a Model Y which is of comparable size and quality. Please explain why a Model Y costs $50k and a Equinox is $30k. Ditto for the Escape and many other small SUV's.

These propaganda posts are exactly that. Just because Tesla found a way to make a $100 component cost 50% less does not mean there aren't other ways of getting the same cost reduction out of a different part of the assembly process. This is the sort of crap that makes me 1000% sure you have no idea what you're talking about.
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Originally Posted by #1 STUNNA
I'm aware of that, one model out of thousands, and the rear isn't a single piece like the Y. Any plans to include it in other vehicles? Currently the Y is the only one since that was the vehicle they were developing at the time of investigating this tech, the Cybertruck is next, probably Semi too, and overtime the old manufacturing process on the S, 3, X will be replaced with this. The 25k vehicle will also have this tech since it's one of the big costing saving methods they'll use to get an EV down to that price target. By the end of the year they should be scaling up production of the Y in Germany using single piece front and rear castings, connected to a structural battery pack
Actually the engine cradle casting on the C8 is more complicated than the Y casting. AFAIK only the bumper extensions (sacrificial accident pieces) and the upper structural support members (extruded aluminum) are the only other pieces on the C8 rear. It also supports a much heavier structural load for the engine/transaxle/suspension compared to the Y.

Both are impressive die cast aluminum structures, but the complexity of the internal webbing of the Bedford casting is pretty amazing.
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Complexity isn't really a good thing when it comes to manufacturing, making it as simple as possible improves yields and reduces costs. The best part is no part, the best process is no process.
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Complexity isn't really a good thing when it comes to manufacturing, making it as simple as possible improves yields and reduces costs. The best part is no part, the best process is no process.
He has me on ignore but this illustrates why he has no idea what he's talking about.
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Picking on the only car brand rated lower in reliability than the Tesla?

Tesla's also have screen malfunctions, y'know. That's why they included a key combination to reboot the display. Otherwise Elon would've asked to ditch it to save costs.
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Just learned a former colleague of mine (24 years ago at a startup) has been working as a Sr. Staff H/W Engineer at Tesla in Austin, TX. Saw it on LinkedIn, previously he spent 17 years at AMD
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Tell him to leak the hardware 4.0 specs, or maybe he's designing the gaming console in the Model S since that runs on an AMD processor.
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Is he referring to legit autopilot or just their level 2 assist systems?
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To me it looks like both products are interlinked. FSD simply has more functionality. If FSD improves so will autopilot.
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Originally Posted by civicdrivr
Is he referring to legit autopilot or just their level 2 assist systems?
Those are one and the same per Tesla's legal team.

In the Model 3/Y I'm looking at, I won't even bother with "FSD". $10k for a glorified adaptive cruise seems stupid.
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To me it looks like both products are interlinked. FSD simply has more functionality. If FSD improves so will autopilot.
But there's the rub - Tesla's Full Self Driving is not, in fact, Full.
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Originally Posted by civicdrivr
But there's the rub - Tesla's Full Self Driving is not, in fact, Full.
Agree that FSD is still a work in progress (and not for long according to Elon), but tell me which car offers all the functionalities of Tesla autopilot for free?
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Tesla doesn't offer those functionalities for free, but...

Carmakers with level 2 autonomous vehicles:

Audi - Traffic Jam Assist
Cadillac - Super Cruise
Mercedes - Driver Assistance System
Tesla - Autopilot
Volvo - Pilot Assist

And level 3:

Honda - Sensing Elite (this is the only production car with a level 3 or greater system)
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