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Old 03-04-2014, 08:37 PM
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Originally Posted by Ken1997TL
Supposedly (my source has been pretty accurate over many years) we'll get a lot of the tech in the next CR-Z

DCT, turbo I-4
Does that mean the next CR-Z will still be a hybrid?

And it better have more than 2 seats.
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Originally Posted by dom
Does that mean the next CR-Z will still be a hybrid?

And it better have more than 2 seats.
Supposedly it'll be two flavors, one hybrid (the two motor setup in the Accord) and the other being a 2.0 with DCT.

And yes, it would be nice to have some sort of back seats. It would need to be about the dimensions of the RSX though to bring that in the North American market. We put our dogs in the back seat 'skeleton' frames, adult people simply wouldn't fit there.
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Sounds like a plan. I think one of the main reasons the CR-Z didn't sell in greater numbers was the seat issue. No reason to limit the audience.

Although I'd still love to see the 2.0T in an Si Sedan with DCT.
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Originally Posted by dom
I think its a moot point. The mere fact that the 2.0T exists is an indication that we'll never see an 8K+ redline NA 4 banger from Honda again. The 2.4 in the Si is more proof of that.
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Originally Posted by Ken1997TL
Supposedly (my source has been pretty accurate over many years) we'll get a lot of the tech in the next CR-Z

DCT, turbo I-4
The CR-Z is too small, though.

Why not Civic Si?
Old 03-05-2014, 10:08 AM
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Originally Posted by RPhilMan1
The CR-Z is too small, though.

Why not Civic Si?
I'd imagine the Si will get similar stuff.

Think Civic Si and CRX Si, both co-existed

Personally I love our CR-Z, flaws and all.
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Originally Posted by Ken1997TL
Supposedly (my source has been pretty accurate over many years) we'll get a lot of the tech in the next CR-Z

DCT, turbo I-4


Originally Posted by MTEAZY
So they have a good looking body with shit powertrain (CRZ)


And a good powertrain with shit body (CTR)






Now what should be the logical combination here..
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Originally Posted by MTEAZY
Hmm.. troll verses CR-Z owner with tremendous Honda knowledge.

Nope, not taking the bait.
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Old 03-05-2014, 12:36 PM
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Ken, you put a turbo or supercharger on CR-Z right?
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Originally Posted by dom
Ken, you put a turbo or supercharger on CR-Z right?
Yep, the Jackson Racing supercharger and Hondata ECU flash. Thinking I'll need to upgrade the clutch though.
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Originally Posted by Ken1997TL
Yep, the Jackson Racing supercharger and Hondata ECU flash. Thinking I'll need to upgrade the clutch though.
I'd imagine that's a fun ride. And can see that car with a back seat being a pretty strong seller for Honda. If Hyundai can move 3K Veloster's per month, Honda should be able to do the same with a similar offering.
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Originally Posted by Ken1997TL
Hmm.. troll verses CR-Z owner with tremendous Honda knowledge.

Nope, not taking the bait.
Didn't know who I was dealing with here. Everyone knows CR-Z owners are the definitive source of the industry.
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Originally Posted by dom
I'd imagine that's a fun ride. And can see that car with a back seat being a pretty strong seller for Honda. If Hyundai can move 3K Veloster's per month, Honda should be able to do the same with a similar offering.
It's very fun and we get 42 mpg on the highway. Realistically, I'd love to keep it for a while, the supercharger, tuning and installation wasn't cheap..
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Originally Posted by MTEAZY
Sorry, didn't know who I was dealing with here. Everyone knows CR-Z owners are the definitive source of the industry.
Ahh yes, just a mere CR-Z owner. Move along then.
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Post 2014 Honda Civic Si Priced

From here: http://www.motorauthority.com/news/1...upe-from-23580

Honda has introduced a range of updates for its 2014 Civic and Civic Coupe models to help address a number of quality concerns following the introduction of the redesigned models in 2013. The changes add some refinement to the cabin and a bit of aggression to the look of the sporty Si models, with the latter also benefiting from a slight bump in horsepower.
Honda has now revealed that the 2014 Civic Si Coupe will go on sale tomorrow, priced from $23,580 including a $790 destination charge. The 2014 Civic Si sedan follows on March 26 and will be priced from $23,780 including the same $790 destination charge.

Both models are powered by a 2.4-liter four-cylinder delivering 205 horsepower and 174 pound-feet of torque. Those numbers are up 4 hp and 4 lb-ft, respectively, on 2013’s specs, though we doubt many will notice the difference. Honda says the gains were brought about by a retuned exhaust system.

Honda says the 2014 models have also received revised suspension, which features higher spring rates, new dampers and a stiffer rear stabilizer bar to help improve handling. A six-speed manual is the only transmission, and drive goes to the front wheels only. The coupe gets 17-inch wheels as standard while an 18-inch set is fitted to the coupe.

Inside the cars, a number of Si-exclusive features have been added, such as black and red hues for the seat fabric and a faux-carbon fiber finish for the audio panel. For 2014 the Civic Si Coupe and Civic Si sedan add as standard equipment Honda's new seven-inch touchscreen infotainment system, which uses a smartphone-like input style to allow users to swipe, tap and pinch their way through audio, phonebook, media, vehicle information and navigation (when equipped) features. The new HondaLink app system is also featured, providing users with online content both in and outside the car.
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A six-speed manual is the only transmission, and drive goes to the front wheels only.


The coupe gets 17-inch wheels as standard while an 18-inch set is fitted to the coupe.
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Comparison Test: 2014 Honda Civic vs 2014 Toyota Corolla

http://www.autos.ca/car-comparisons/...oyota-corolla/

2 interesting take aways for me.

The Civic has an edge in power, with 143 hp and 129 lb-ft of torque, but with an extra 40 kg it shows little of its 11-hp advantage on the road, and that CVT seems a work in progress. Where the CVT in the Honda Accord is brilliant and superior to conventional automatics in its class, here it is shown up by a clever multi-mode CVT in the Corolla.

The Corolla we tested was the S model, its 132 hp and 128 lb-ft hardly sporty, but the CVT manages to control its lurching revs when accelerating, something that cannot be said for the Civic. The Corolla’s CVT also offers a manual mode with seven simulated gears and paddle shifters to play with them. It’s not crucial for this segment or its mission, but it was handy on occasion.
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Of greater concern to the average consumer is fuel consumption. The EPA suggests that the Civic should come out ahead, its combined rating 7.1 L/100 km to the Corolla’s 7.4, but on our back-to-back driving loops, the Civic posted an 8.9 while the Corolla finished at 7.9, and after driving them for the rest of the week, both went up slightly though the gap remained.
I assumed Honda used the same CVT as what's in the Accord, maybe not?
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Motor Trend seems to have a different view of the CVT in the Civic:
http://www.motortrend.com/roadtests/..._l_first_test/

Now let's talk performance. The 2014 Civic is now available with a CVT that replaces the five-speed automatic. Matched to the same 1.8-liter I-4 that pumps out 3 more hp and 1 extra lb-ft of torque thanks to a new exhaust system, the gearbox is so smooth that people have to ask whether it's a CVT. Like associate editor Scott Evans said, the CVT does makes the Civic feel a bit slower off the line, but testing numbers demonstrate its performance has improved across the board, if slightly. While the 2013 Civic completed the 0-60-mph sprint in 9.1 seconds, the new one got there in 8.8 seconds. It's the same story for the quarter-mile, as the 2014 model hustled there in 16.8 seconds at 85.2 mph versus 16.9 seconds at 82.5 mph. The CVT-equipped Civic also completed the figure eight nearly 1 second quicker, with a higher average g. At 113 feet, the 60-0 mph braking performance represents a vast improvement over 2013's 119-foot result.
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Are we really talking about the performance of CVT?
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Originally Posted by iforyou
Motor Trend seems to have a different view of the CVT in the Civic:
http://www.motortrend.com/roadtests/..._l_first_test/
Wasn't tested back to back against anything. Unlike the link I provided. Not saying the reviewers of MT are wrong. But I always put more stock in comments and stats of head to head comparisons.

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Are we really talking about the performance of CVT?
I was more pointing out the feel of the CVT the review I posted is focusing on. I seem to be one of the very few who couldn't stand the Accords CVT in a sea of people and reviews who have nothing but praise for it. Any car with CVT is immediately scratched off my list.
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Recall

Honda has announced a voluntary recall for a relatively small number of 2014 Civic LX sedans sold in the US market.

The company claims a supplier improperly mounted some tires to steel wheels, pinching the rubber between the assembly equipment and the rim. The issue has been associated with torn beads.

"A tear in the bead of the tire could result in rapid air loss in the tire, making the vehicle more difficult to maneuver and increasing the risk of a crash," the recall statement notes.

Honda suggests it is not aware of any complaints, crashes or injuries caused by the issue, which was spotted during a factory quality check. The recall is limited to 9,817 vehicles, most of which are said to be in dealer inventory at the moment.

A mail notification will be sent out by early April. Owners will be able to bring their car in for inspection and tire replacement if necessary.
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I think we need another thread for "Euro Civic" or whatever. I don't want to keep coming in here and being reminded of how little regard Honda has for and hates the NA market.
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If the Civic Type R ends up looking like the concept, well it will be a badass car for sure. I love how the FWD hot hatches (Civic Type R, Renault, Seat Cupra) are now competing for Nurburgring top dog status.





Also, rumors are that the Civic Type R may make its way over to the US.
http://www.automobilemag.com/feature...eturn-in-2017/
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What's that Merc?

Type R looks great by the way.
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I think we need another thread for "Euro Civic" or whatever. I don't want to keep coming in here and being reminded of how little regard Honda has for and hates the NA market.
Remember dom, Honda hates you.
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What's that Merc?

Type R looks great by the way.
W176 A-Class. Like a CLA shooting brake/hatchback.
The Type R looks good too.
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That's probably the AMG A45.
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[QUOTE=qingcong;15008557]If the Civic Type R ends up looking like the concept, well it will be a badass car for sure. I love how the FWD hot hatches (Civic Type R, Renault, Seat Cupra) are now competing for Nurburgring top dog status.

Top dog status at the Nurburgring? I guess you mean between the fwd hatches. Definitely not between the other top dogs.
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Originally Posted by Brock79
Top dog status at the Nurburgring? I guess you mean between the fwd hatches. Definitely not between the other top dogs.
Wrong wrong wrong.

The Renault Megane (8:07) is faster by one second on the Nurburgring track than the earlier NSX Type R's and two seconds behind the Impreza STI.

If Honda is trying to beat that, then let them!

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Aren't the GTI and ST selling pretty well? Why is Honda not bringing this here?
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Originally Posted by Brock79
Top dog status at the Nurburgring? I guess you mean between the fwd hatches. Definitely not between the other top dogs.

I think that should be obvious.
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^^ because Honda hates you.
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Originally Posted by VR1
Aren't the GTI and ST selling pretty well? Why is Honda not bringing this here?

Latest rumors have it that Honda *could* bring the Civic Type R to the US.

Lets not get mistaken here. Bringing a Civic Type R to the US isn't about making money for Honda. It would be about making Honda a relevant enthusiast brand, which I'm not convinced the bean counters in Honda are on board with.
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I'd be happy with ~225HP and around the same amount of torque with a dual clutch in the Si. A dual clutch in the current Si would be nice.
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Aren't the GTI and ST selling pretty well? Why is Honda not bringing this here?
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