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Old 08-10-2010, 04:10 PM
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So has this thread become the Acura Special Olympics thread instead of a TL news thread?

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You continuously contradict yourself. Im turning you off.
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I never said RDX is upmarket vehicle. It needs to go upmarket in design, interior and 6speed Auto. It is on sale since August 2006. so it is 5 year old already.
In FWD RDX C&D test it achieved 136mph top speed and 21mpg fuel economy.
It does no suck in fuel economy when you look at performance numbers a for tall wide vehicle that is heavier than TSX-V6. Tires are also tall 235/55/18. Most of its competitors have 6speed.

Most harhsest critics said its turbo engine is the best from its sound and boost.
WHAT DOES THE TIRE SIZE HAVE TO DO WITH IT??? ESPECIALLY THE 55
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Originally Posted by fsttyms1
WHAT DOES THE TIRE SIZE HAVE TO DO WITH IT??? ESPECIALLY THE 55
It's funny how he makes us angry even though we know his responses are meant to lead us on.

Or he's just special.
Old 08-10-2010, 05:26 PM
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WHAT DOES THE TIRE SIZE HAVE TO DO WITH IT??? ESPECIALLY THE 55
You have my persmission to ban this troll.
Old 08-10-2010, 05:56 PM
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Originally Posted by knavinusa
It's funny how he makes us angry even though we know his responses are meant to lead us on.

Or he's just special.
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Originally Posted by knavinusa
It's funny how he makes us angry even though we know his responses are meant to lead us on.

Or he's just special.
I'd say, the latter, lol!
Old 08-10-2010, 07:50 PM
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So has this thread become the Acura Special Olympics thread instead of a TL news thread?

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LOL I see what you did there Will.... The old arguing with people on the internet is like winning at the special olympics deal....
Old 08-11-2010, 06:07 PM
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In other news, the Acura TL is still butt ugly.
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Last night I watched Speed Test Drive: 2011 Acura TL SH-AWD

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PftV2PAVoEs

I know by now this show is basically a paid advertisement for whatever vehicle they "test", but still, I had to LMAO when both guest drivers claimed to love the styling. Seriously guys...
Old 08-26-2010, 10:04 AM
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Tighter turning radius than an A6...like anyone is going to care when looking at a TL. He must be grasping at straws and couldn't find anything else to say.
Old 08-26-2010, 10:34 AM
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Originally Posted by alex2364
Tighter turning radius than an A6...like anyone is going to care when looking at a TL. He must be grasping at straws and couldn't find anything else to say.
Thats probably the only positive
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Originally Posted by fsttyms1
Thats probably the only positive
Well, he could have said "cheaper than an A6" but that wouldn't sound as flattering.
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Originally Posted by Belzebutt
Well, he could have said "cheaper than an A6" but that wouldn't sound as flattering.
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There is simply too much 4G TL bashing going on.
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I don't mind the styling of the 4G TL to be honest, it's grown on me. Also I have friends who loved the 3G TL and love the 4G TL even more. Then again I have other friends who find the 4G TL to be awful.

I do think that the car could have been smaller.
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Old 08-28-2010, 09:51 AM
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Bigger TL has much better road presence.
R&D long term 6MT TL-SHAWD is getting over 20mpg. PS2 tires are already done at 22k miles.


http://blog.roadandtrack.com/long-te...ean-generator/
Our Acura TL has proven to be a great everyday car. It has lots of room for passengers and junk alike. A combination of Acura’s Super Handling All Wheel Drive, a reasonably satisfying V-6 and a 6-speed manual transmission have made it a pretty good driver’s car too. But how does it work as a generator? Or an air-conditioned refuge from blinding summer heat? Would the roomy confines of the TL start to induce cabin fever after consecutive days strapped to its supportive seats? We turned the Acura TL into our mobile online headquarters for Sam Mitani’s recent land speed record attempt to find out.

For four days, Online Editorial Director Jennifer Degtjarewsky and I lived out of the Acura. Much of that time was spent lurking in front of the Wendover McDonalds, the town’s quickest internet connection. Curiously, while the Micky D’s was sporting wireless internet, it wasn’t plug-friendly, so the poor Acura was called to duty. Forget SH-AWD and a manual transmission, we needed the Acura’s alternator to keep our laptops alive while the a/c did the same for us. Comfortable seats, satellite radio, lots of legroom and a quiet cabin kept us from going nuts during our 6-hour (!) video uploads. Prior to Sam’s record runs, the Acura was also used to juice the battery of the Suzuki, ignominiously tethered to the car like a mobile IV stand as the Kizashi trudged its way through the lineup at Bonneville. Honda makes a mean generator, what can I say?

I’m happy to report the Acura happily absorbed every indignity we threw at it. It took two vigorous washings and a $70 carpet shampoo, but our long term TL is looking as good as new and ready for the next road trip.
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SSFTSX you like the styling of the TL?
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I think the 4G TL has a fantastic profile. I kind of like the back. It looks more substantive compared to the 3G. It looks like a luxury car. The 3G more upscale, like a Maxima.

However, the front I cannot get over. The grille is horribly implemented. If it looked like TSX (up front) it would be a much better looking car.
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Originally Posted by JAB00
I think the 4G TL has a fantastic profile. I kind of like the back. It looks more substantive compared to the 3G. It looks like a luxury car. The 3G more upscale, like a Maxima.

However, the front I cannot get over. The grille is horribly implemented. If it looked like TSX (up front) it would be a much better looking car.
It is going to look more like a TSX upfront, starting for the 2012 models.

Funny, I always felt the Maxima, at least the current Gen one, looked more like a luxury sedan from a distance then the new TL does. I guess thats just me.
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Originally Posted by Hapa DC5
SSFTSX you like the styling of the TL?
I still prefer TSX small size and styling but if your comparing TL to some othere in its size class like MB E/Lexus ES-GS/Infiniti M/BMW 5/Audi A6
TL is far superior product in both interior and exterior design, handling, breaking, NVH, fuel economy for AWD system.
Who knows i may jump to TL if proper MMC is implemented like Front LED lights, more aggressive styling, 6AT, advance package. I am not expecting thos things in $30K TSX but expect them in $45K TL.









TL needs this kind of front with Japanese Colors. there is difference between both Palldium Metallics.

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Car looks very sharp in Black compared to Black BMW 5. BMW 5 is not longer than TL but looks very long from side profile. Real road presence look like 7 series boat.




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MMC is implemented like Front LED lights, more aggressive styling, 6AT, advance package.
6AT is def coming. Advance package electronic nannies I can do without.

I would LOVE to see Acura dump the old school halogen DRL's though. They look mega-lame. LED's or CCFL angel eye's plz.

Kinda like these...

http://www.dashzracing.com/Lighting-...-p5527365.html
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Originally Posted by Fibonacci
6AT is def coming. Advance package electronic nannies I can do without.

I would LOVE to see Acura dump the old school halogen DRL's though. They look mega-lame. LED's or CCFL angel eye's plz.

Kinda like these...

http://www.dashzracing.com/Lighting-...-p5527365.html
LED in front are must in higher trim models. otherwise car looks outdated.

Honda is already offering 3D HDD navigation in Japanese Euro Accord with Google earth and internet connection.
http://www.honda.co.jp/navi/accord/
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Originally Posted by SSFTSX
I still prefer TSX small size and styling but if your comparing TL to some othere in its size class like MB E/Lexus ES-GS/Infiniti M/BMW 5/Audi A6
TL is far superior product in both interior and exterior design, handling, breaking, NVH, fuel economy for AWD system.
ehi! you forgot the Jaguar XF too....
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You can put Infiniti M and Jaquar XF in same design bucket when yo look at real life comparision pix. both are very poorly designed. Any car that lacks sharp squarish look is poorly design. nothing earth shattering in handling and NVH department. Even Hyundai can design a long boat at reasonble price. BMW/MB/Audi need M/AMD/RS division to match TL handling for size.
Always remember that 74.3 inch wide and 195 long TL size. TL hides its size well.






same TL Sh-AWD style rims.


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Originally Posted by SSFTSX
You can put Infiniti M and Jaquar XF in same design bucket when yo look at real life comparision pix. both are very poorly designed. Any car that lacks sharp squarish look is poorly design. nothing earth shattering in handling and NVH department. Even Hyundai can design a long boat at reasonble price. BMW/MB/Audi need M/AMD/RS division to match TL handling for size.
Always remember that 74.3 inch wide and 195 long TL size. TL hides its size well.
You really have an answer to ALL the questions.
Even to the black holes and the extinction of the dinosaurs, I'm sure.
But I will take 1500 times better an XF (XF-R if you please too) on a TL.
Have you EVER sat inside a Jaguar XF?
Have you EVER driven one?
I'm sure not, my friend.
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You can put Infiniti M and Jaquar XF in same design bucket when yo look at real life comparision pix. both are very poorly designed. Any car that lacks sharp squarish look is poorly design. ]
You have got to be kidding me
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Originally Posted by fsttyms1
You have got to be kidding me
Nope. He is serious.
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You have got to be kidding me
He's of his rocker, that's all.
And make him stop posting pics of the king. I mean is it really necessary?
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Originally Posted by krio
You really have an answer to ALL the questions.
Even to the black holes and the extinction of the dinosaurs, I'm sure.
But I will take 1500 times better an XF (XF-R if you please too) on a TL.
Have you EVER sat inside a Jaguar XF?
Have you EVER driven one?
I'm sure not, my friend.
Yup. i dont have clue. bankrupt firms simply dont have that in depth R&D. they just want to make biggest blind splash with highest horsepower, most expensive interior (without looking at functionality & eye sight) and most striking design. that striking design is simply there limited R&D.
(forget about aerodynamcis/handling mesh with squarish edges with wind and tire noise reduction).
There is nothing scientific behind expensive interior or material. Acura just has to charge $60K for it. It is good they didnot went overboard and priced stayed at $40K.

that poor design is reflected in high NVH and low handling. that despite having 6speed auto transmission that lowers rpm at 70mph compared to 6MT or 5AT of TL-SH-AWD. I am not going into long term reliability and heat insulation.








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car is practically dated from the start.


IL Track Tested: 2009 BMW 550i vs. 2010 Jaguar XF
Vehicle: 2010 Jaguar XF Premium

Test Results:
0 - 30 (sec): 2.3
0 - 45 (sec): 3.9
0 - 60 (sec): 5.7
0 - 75 (sec): 8.2
1/4 Mile (sec @ mph): 13.9 @ 102.5
0-60 with 1-ft Rollout (sec): 5.4
30 - 0 (ft): 28
60 - 0 (ft): 106
Braking Rating: Excellent
Slalom (mph): 63.8
Skid Pad Lateral acceleration (g): .82
Handling Rating: Very good
Db @ Idle: 47.1
Db @ Full Throttle: 73.5
Db @ 70 mph Cruise: 71.1



Vehicle: 2009 BMW 550i

Test Results:
0 - 30 (sec): 2.1
0 - 45 (sec): 3.7
0 - 60 (sec): 5.5
0 - 75 (sec): 8.2
1/4 Mile (sec @ mph): 13.7 @ 102.7
0-60 with 1-ft Rollout (sec): 5.2
30 - 0 (ft): 28
60 - 0 (ft): 111
Braking Rating: Very Good
Slalom (mph): 64.9
Skid Pad Lateral acceleration (g): .87
Handling Rating: Very good
Db @ Idle: 47.9
Db @ Full Throttle: 70.8
Db @ 70 mph Cruise: 66.3

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Originally Posted by SSFTSX
Yup. i dont have clue.









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Well long term verdict (Long term interms of 1 year not like 10 or 20 years).
Jaguar has produced rattles, eating tires and brakes at rate no other comparable car, fuel economy way low down 16.7mpg despite having torquey engine, 6speed and no AWD losses. and these are all long drives most of the time. There is no long term investment in platform to minimize cost to consumers. everything works but design poorly.
Interior design that looks 1990s Land Rover.
http://www.motortrend.com/roadtests/...and_tires.html
Verdict: 2009 Jaguar XF Supercharged
Not even brake or tire replacement.
http://www.motortrend.com/roadtests/...uspension.html
During its year-long stay with us, the TL made three service stops. The first ($92.26) and third ($113.04), at around 6000 and 19,000 miles, respectively, consisted of an oil change, full inspection, and tire rotation. The middle maintenance ($229.62), at roughly 14,000 miles, included the above check items and added a change of the rear differential fluid. All told, our service tab came to a respectable $434.92, with $0 coming out of our wallets for normal-wear cost. The gas bill, as well, wasn't too depleting, thanks to average fuel economy of nearly 20 mpg.
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You have got to be kidding me
I actually LOLed at that remark.
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Originally Posted by SSFTSX
Yup. i dont have clue. bankrupt firms simply dont have that in depth R&D. they just want to make biggest blind splash with highest horsepower, most expensive interior (without looking at functionality & eye sight) and most striking design. that striking design is simply there limited R&D.
(forget about aerodynamcis/handling mesh with squarish edges with wind and tire noise reduction).
There is nothing scientific behind expensive interior or material. Acura just has to charge $60K for it. It is good they didnot went overboard and priced stayed at $40K.

that poor design is reflected in high NVH and low handling. that despite having 6speed auto transmission that lowers rpm at 70mph compared to 6MT or 5AT of TL-SH-AWD. I am not going into long term reliability and heat insulation.





Was there a single point behind this post? If there was i didnt see it.
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Originally Posted by fsttyms1
Was there a single point behind this post? If there was i didnt see it.
There performance & NVH data of Jaguar when put in comprision test and its outdated design of copying BMW front. Acura TL is unique squarish design and that extends to lights.



you can pretty much bet on TL that with 6speed auto. its NVH levels will go down below BMW 5 series. (just look at MDX figures).


It is not just Motortrend but C&D, Automobile have similar problems with Jaguar XF. dead batterires, rear sunshade stop working, leaks, rattles, brake and tires tossed with in first year. R&T was lucky that tires got blasted by pot holes so excuse was made to replace them all instead of wearing it down, backseat room etc. whole thing is poorly design. It is not long term buy but Lease for 24months disposable car.

this car has same large wheelwells like Infinit M.
http://www.insideline.com/bmw/5-seri...f-premium.html
But the challenging yet compelling appearance of the XF might not be enough to overcome the car's design shortcomings. Big wheels sure do fill up wheelwells, but they also diminish any semblance of a supple ride.
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Yep, the TL is king if innovations. It shits on the Veyron.
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The TL wears its crown on its face.
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