Acura: TLX News
08-07-2010, 05:48 PM
#5481
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I'm not intense in all this car talk like you guys but
I love the 4G, i don't think it was meant to be compared to the 3G... I think its a boss looking car, more on the luxury side than sport despite the fact that the 6MT put a faster lap than the 335i in C&D... sure its not RWD and u cant drift it like a mofo... but I prefer faster laps
I dont understand how you guys like the G37, it looks so squished, as "ugly" as the TL may be, all the lines flow IMO, The G has become ugly as sin... well I haven't liked Nissan since Renault... The G35 coupe was nice but 3G TL was hands down winner to me even being 4 doors, I think those cars just sell because ppl wanna pretend they drive race cars, so high torque + RWD makes you feel like a winner
I think Acura will step up in the future, hopefully RL will be a 7 series contender... i hope its all a process and the V8 RL motor will trickle down to a TL type S
I love the 4G, i don't think it was meant to be compared to the 3G... I think its a boss looking car, more on the luxury side than sport despite the fact that the 6MT put a faster lap than the 335i in C&D... sure its not RWD and u cant drift it like a mofo... but I prefer faster laps
I dont understand how you guys like the G37, it looks so squished, as "ugly" as the TL may be, all the lines flow IMO, The G has become ugly as sin... well I haven't liked Nissan since Renault... The G35 coupe was nice but 3G TL was hands down winner to me even being 4 doors, I think those cars just sell because ppl wanna pretend they drive race cars, so high torque + RWD makes you feel like a winner
I think Acura will step up in the future, hopefully RL will be a 7 series contender... i hope its all a process and the V8 RL motor will trickle down to a TL type S
Originally Posted by fsttyms1
Opinions! While i dont like the G, I have to say the G IMO looks MUCH better. The front end of the TL kills the car. BUT that is just my opinion. (Which is shared by many).
Don't forget the sides and rear.
08-07-2010, 06:22 PM
#5482
Get real. Do you really think Honda will be introducing aerospace-grade materials into economy cars? Maybe if they made a supercar they'd have a reason to do it, but Honda right now has hardly a hint of sport. Acura doesn't use any weight saving materials either; the 4G TL is a pig.You dont do this kind of investment for one project but leverage it across the industries.
Japanese are very good in lowering the price through mass production. It is Toray/Kawasaki/Mitsubishi that are the largest supplier to Boeing, MB etc.
4G TL is pig? show me any other car that is 195inch long, 74.4 inch wide, 57inch high, standard AWD, ACE body structure, 19inch standard tires and still weighs 3950lbs with Auto & pull 0.92g?.
Look at BMW 5 RWD weight with newer lighter 8speed.
Even MDX weight with newer 6speed auto, 255/19 didnot incrase.
08-08-2010, 12:11 AM
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The car is a great performer, but it's too big. It was unnecessary to increase the length of the 4G by that much with minimal interior space increases or trunk space for that matter.
08-08-2010, 12:17 AM
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That's the definition of a pig. It's bigger then the 5 series, E, A6, etc. It's as large as your "flagship" RL.
The car is a great performer, but it's too big. It was unnecessary to increase the length of the 4G by that much with minimal interior space increases or trunk space for that matter.
The car is a great performer, but it's too big. It was unnecessary to increase the length of the 4G by that much with minimal interior space increases or trunk space for that matter.
08-08-2010, 01:05 AM
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I'm not intense in all this car talk like you guys but
I love the 4G, i don't think it was meant to be compared to the 3G... I think its a boss looking car, more on the luxury side than sport despite the fact that the 6MT put a faster lap than the 335i in C&D... sure its not RWD and u cant drift it like a mofo... but I prefer faster laps
I dont understand how you guys like the G37, it looks so squished, as "ugly" as the TL may be, all the lines flow IMO, The G has become ugly as sin... well I haven't liked Nissan since Renault... The G35 coupe was nice but 3G TL was hands down winner to me even being 4 doors, I think those cars just sell because ppl wanna pretend they drive race cars, so high torque + RWD makes you feel like a winner
I think Acura will step up in the future, hopefully RL will be a 7 series contender... i hope its all a process and the V8 RL motor will trickle down to a TL type S
I love the 4G, i don't think it was meant to be compared to the 3G... I think its a boss looking car, more on the luxury side than sport despite the fact that the 6MT put a faster lap than the 335i in C&D... sure its not RWD and u cant drift it like a mofo... but I prefer faster laps
I dont understand how you guys like the G37, it looks so squished, as "ugly" as the TL may be, all the lines flow IMO, The G has become ugly as sin... well I haven't liked Nissan since Renault... The G35 coupe was nice but 3G TL was hands down winner to me even being 4 doors, I think those cars just sell because ppl wanna pretend they drive race cars, so high torque + RWD makes you feel like a winner
I think Acura will step up in the future, hopefully RL will be a 7 series contender... i hope its all a process and the V8 RL motor will trickle down to a TL type S
My G is a tad smaller then my 3G TL. The styling is MUCH easier on the eyes then the 4g. The 6MT SH-AWD is very much a driver's car. My G37S fits my needs and wants (4 doors, rwd, sporty, etc). I don't magazine race especially against other forum members, it's very unlikely I will take it to a track, but I do drive spiritedly and it's taking what I throw at it with a smile. Most of the Gs I come across are coupes (some sedans, but once in a blue moon an S) unlike the 3g in which I saw maybe 4 a day on my morning commute?
So Acura missed a sale which is sad because I've had an Integra GS-R, RSX-S, 3G TL... I'm a fan of the brand, but they didn't move in the direction I was hoping. Maybe I'll be back for the MMC 5g or I'll stick with my Nissan, we'll see. Infiniti put out a car that I wanted and was willing to spend money on.
I don't feel like a winner or race car driver because it's RWD or "high torque" nor do I want to come off that way. I just enjoy my car for myself.
08-08-2010, 02:37 AM
#5486
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Have you read that they are making entire aeroplane structure in house.
You dont do this kind of investment for one project but leverage it across the industries.
Japanese are very good in lowering the price through mass production. It is Toray/Kawasaki/Mitsubishi that are the largest supplier to Boeing, MB etc.
4G TL is pig? show me any other car that is 195inch long, 74.4 inch wide, 57inch high, standard AWD, ACE body structure, 19inch standard tires and still weighs 3950lbs with Auto & pull 0.92g?.
Look at BMW 5 RWD weight with newer lighter 8speed.
Even MDX weight with newer 6speed auto, 255/19 didnot incrase.
You dont do this kind of investment for one project but leverage it across the industries.
Japanese are very good in lowering the price through mass production. It is Toray/Kawasaki/Mitsubishi that are the largest supplier to Boeing, MB etc.
4G TL is pig? show me any other car that is 195inch long, 74.4 inch wide, 57inch high, standard AWD, ACE body structure, 19inch standard tires and still weighs 3950lbs with Auto & pull 0.92g?.
Look at BMW 5 RWD weight with newer lighter 8speed.
Even MDX weight with newer 6speed auto, 255/19 didnot incrase.
Let's look at Mitsubishi. You say they're already a significant supplier to the aerospace industry. However, even they are unable to introduce extensively, exotic materials into their cars. Only the highest-trim Lancer Evos ever saw titanium alloy, and it was present only as the turbine wheel in their turbos.
What makes you think Honda will be able to make these materials cheap when Mitsubishi has been in the industry for a number of years, and Honda has only very recently participated?
Your argument about the 4G being lighter than its competitors despite its size is irrelevant. My point is that it is very difficult for auto manufacturers to use liberal amounts of lightweight materials in their cars without making them expensive.
08-08-2010, 03:26 AM
#5487
You're suggesting that by participating in the aerospace industry, Honda will be able to incorporate materials like titanium into their production cars.
Let's look at Mitsubishi. You say they're already a significant supplier to the aerospace industry. However, even they are unable to introduce extensively, exotic materials into their cars. Only the highest-trim Lancer Evos ever saw titanium alloy, and it was present only as the turbine wheel in their turbos.
What makes you think Honda will be able to make these materials cheap when Mitsubishi has been in the industry for a number of years, and Honda has only very recently participated?
Your argument about the 4G being lighter than its competitors despite its size is irrelevant. My point is that it is very difficult for auto manufacturers to use liberal amounts of lightweight materials in their cars without making them expensive.
Let's look at Mitsubishi. You say they're already a significant supplier to the aerospace industry. However, even they are unable to introduce extensively, exotic materials into their cars. Only the highest-trim Lancer Evos ever saw titanium alloy, and it was present only as the turbine wheel in their turbos.
What makes you think Honda will be able to make these materials cheap when Mitsubishi has been in the industry for a number of years, and Honda has only very recently participated?
Your argument about the 4G being lighter than its competitors despite its size is irrelevant. My point is that it is very difficult for auto manufacturers to use liberal amounts of lightweight materials in their cars without making them expensive.
You dont know fully Mitsubishi (MHI) Corporate History. it is loss making enteriprize since 1990s.
Only thing it made was Japan defence Ministry F-2. (It is F-16 clone but with extensive composite and titanium). and now supplying to Boeing. and is creating its own region jet with extensive CFRP called MRJ and that with loans and Japanese government funding.
Boeing 787 is 50% by weight made of CFRP. and each 787 has 20tons of titanium alloys.the same is true for Airbus A350.
compare those with B777 of circa 1995. World has moved on and your living in past. These things were not possible before 21st century on large commercial scale.
think harder some thing is under development for 20 years and it is not flying. It is not about aeroplane but mastering new material technologies.
http://www.aviationweek.com/aw/blogs...c-8d1d2f78f86e
The aircraft has been under development for decades now, so what’s a couple of extra months? Moreover, the parent company’s commitment seems more than firm. The research and administration buildings at the planemaker’s Greensboro, N.C., campus are completed, and construction of the main production facility is under way; the ribbon cutting should take place next year.
When done, Honda will have a brand new 600,000 sq ft plant – way more space than what’s needed to build a light twinjet. Why so much floor space?
“You don’t think we’re going to build all this for just one model of aircraft, do you?” one exec asked me. “This is Honda, after all, and they’re in it for the long haul. They're serious about the airplane business.”
The aircraft has been under development for decades now, so what’s a couple of extra months? Moreover, the parent company’s commitment seems more than firm. The research and administration buildings at the planemaker’s Greensboro, N.C., campus are completed, and construction of the main production facility is under way; the ribbon cutting should take place next year.
When done, Honda will have a brand new 600,000 sq ft plant – way more space than what’s needed to build a light twinjet. Why so much floor space?
“You don’t think we’re going to build all this for just one model of aircraft, do you?” one exec asked me. “This is Honda, after all, and they’re in it for the long haul. They're serious about the airplane business.”
http://world.honda.com/news/2009/c09...asa-and-Honda/
GS Yuasa and Honda Sign Contract to Establish Joint Venture Company
TOKYO, Japan, March 24, 2009 – GS Yuasa Corporation and Honda signed a joint venture contract to establish a new joint venture company for manufacturing, sales and R&D of Lithium-ion batteries for hybrid vehicles. The new company, Blue Energy Co., Ltd., is scheduled to be established April 1, 2009
GS Yuasa and Honda Sign Contract to Establish Joint Venture Company
TOKYO, Japan, March 24, 2009 – GS Yuasa Corporation and Honda signed a joint venture contract to establish a new joint venture company for manufacturing, sales and R&D of Lithium-ion batteries for hybrid vehicles. The new company, Blue Energy Co., Ltd., is scheduled to be established April 1, 2009
so most of its money is for exotic research projects not just cheap cars for third world. What Honda can deliver on mass scales and still make profit on them. Mitsubishi cant do it. Mitsubishi can only be tier-1 supplier not the end product. It does not have that corporate leadership and culture to do it. Infact Mitsubishi hasnt seen how a $10B profit in a year look like let alone doing it for decades continously. they are too poor and too spread out on other industrial sectors to fully concentrate on Auto-Jet business.
Honda has that finess and laser sharp focus on end products. They can afford to pay the best salaries, hire the most experianced staff and can incorporate these light weight materials on much wider scale. Honda can be supplier to other Auto makers. infact you can see SH-AWD technology has been implemented very cheaply across the line up. You get this technology on in S4 and X6.
08-08-2010, 04:23 AM
#5488
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Boeing 787 is 50% by weight made of CFRP. and each 787 has 20tons of titanium alloys.the same is true for Airbus A350.
compare those with B777 of circa 1995. World has moved on and your living in past. These things were not possible before 21st century on large commercial scale.
think harder some thing is under development for 20 years and it is not flying. It is not about aeroplane but mastering new material technologies.
compare those with B777 of circa 1995. World has moved on and your living in past. These things were not possible before 21st century on large commercial scale.
think harder some thing is under development for 20 years and it is not flying. It is not about aeroplane but mastering new material technologies.
Explain to me then why gasoline prices have risen considerably in the last 10 years. Surely new technologies have made refining oil more efficient.
08-08-2010, 04:23 AM
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blah blah with the blah blah.... still doesn't help Acura's exterior design and overall lack of direction and marketing strategy.
08-08-2010, 04:25 AM
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OK, except technological advancements aren't the only factor here. Even if Honda develops new and better methods of creating metal alloys, it certainly doesn't guarantee that they'll continue to get cheaper. Realize that metals like titanium are expensive because they exist in small quantities, and are subject to price fluctuations. You seem to be suggesting that Boeing's 787 uses more titanium because technology has made this alloy cheaper.
Explain to me then why gasoline prices have risen considerably in the last 10 years. Surely new technologies have made refining oil more efficient.
Explain to me then why gasoline prices have risen considerably in the last 10 years. Surely new technologies have made refining oil more efficient.
08-08-2010, 04:42 AM
#5491
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What I don't understand is, why didn't Honda/Acura simply make the 4G TL look like an evolution of the 3G? Many people agreed the 3G was an attractive car, so if all they wanted to do was give their cars a distinctive styling cue, they only had to slap that ugly grille onto every one of their cars and call it a day. In case the design was unpopular, at least the rest of the car would look good. Instead they decided to drastically re-design the entire car. Even though they've realized many people don't like the styling, there's little they can do short of a complete overhaul.
On the other hand, I've grown to quite like the look of the 2G TSX.
08-08-2010, 04:49 AM
#5492
OK, except technological advancements aren't the only factor here. Even if Honda develops new and better methods of creating metal alloys, it certainly doesn't guarantee that they'll continue to get cheaper. Realize that metals like titanium are expensive because they exist in small quantities, and are subject to price fluctuations. You seem to be suggesting that Boeing's 787 uses more titanium because technology has made this alloy cheaper.
Explain to me then why gasoline prices have risen considerably in the last 10 years. Surely new technologies have made refining oil more efficient.
Explain to me then why gasoline prices have risen considerably in the last 10 years. Surely new technologies have made refining oil more efficient.
every mineral is finite. even iron ore prices are rising. Does it mean people should stop using steel?
I only say Honda corporate cultural will allow it be better than most firms in commericalizing light weight materials on mass scale.
http://world.honda.com/news/2003/c031216_2.html
The fuselage is a compact and lightweight co-cured carbon composite structure, yet realizes the largest cabin in its class. The main wing, which features aluminum skin panels formed from single sheets of aluminum that provide a smoother surface than conventional wing configurations, along with Honda's proprietary turbulence-reducing laminar airfoil, work together to significantly improve aerodynamic performance. Additional drag-reducing technologies include the fuselage nose, which is designed to generate laminar flow. These features, in combination with Honda's fuel-efficient HF118 Turbofan Engine, achieve fuel efficiency over 40% higher than conventional aircraft.
This experimental aircraft is also fitted with a state-of-the-art glass cockpit with an integrated avionics system, as well as an autopilot function, anti-icing equipment, and other systems. The jet is scheduled to undergo approximately 200 hours of flight-testing to demonstrate and verify the operability and performance characteristics of its various systems.
Honda began research into compact business jets in 1986, using engines provided by other manufacturers. The HF118 Turbofan Engine-equipped HondaJet experimental compact jet is the first Honda-developed aircraft to be outfitted with a Honda engine, a significant milestone for the company and the industry.
The fuselage is a compact and lightweight co-cured carbon composite structure, yet realizes the largest cabin in its class. The main wing, which features aluminum skin panels formed from single sheets of aluminum that provide a smoother surface than conventional wing configurations, along with Honda's proprietary turbulence-reducing laminar airfoil, work together to significantly improve aerodynamic performance. Additional drag-reducing technologies include the fuselage nose, which is designed to generate laminar flow. These features, in combination with Honda's fuel-efficient HF118 Turbofan Engine, achieve fuel efficiency over 40% higher than conventional aircraft.
This experimental aircraft is also fitted with a state-of-the-art glass cockpit with an integrated avionics system, as well as an autopilot function, anti-icing equipment, and other systems. The jet is scheduled to undergo approximately 200 hours of flight-testing to demonstrate and verify the operability and performance characteristics of its various systems.
Honda began research into compact business jets in 1986, using engines provided by other manufacturers. The HF118 Turbofan Engine-equipped HondaJet experimental compact jet is the first Honda-developed aircraft to be outfitted with a Honda engine, a significant milestone for the company and the industry.
08-08-2010, 04:52 AM
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Yes if you want a minijet we all agree buy a Honda. If you want a luxury SUV SSFTSX wants you to buy a Q5 https://acurazine.com/forums/showpos...4&postcount=27 and not his beloved Acura.
08-08-2010, 04:58 AM
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Agreed. I think I went a little too off-topic there.
What I don't understand is, why didn't Honda/Acura simply make the 4G TL look like an evolution of the 3G? Many people agreed the 3G was an attractive car, so if all they wanted to do was give their cars a distinctive styling cue, they only had to slap that ugly grille onto every one of their cars and call it a day. In case the design was unpopular, at least the rest of the car would look good. Instead they decided to drastically re-design the entire car. Even though they've realized many people don't like the styling, there's little they can do short of a complete overhaul.
On the other hand, I've grown to quite like the look of the 2G TSX.
What I don't understand is, why didn't Honda/Acura simply make the 4G TL look like an evolution of the 3G? Many people agreed the 3G was an attractive car, so if all they wanted to do was give their cars a distinctive styling cue, they only had to slap that ugly grille onto every one of their cars and call it a day. In case the design was unpopular, at least the rest of the car would look good. Instead they decided to drastically re-design the entire car. Even though they've realized many people don't like the styling, there's little they can do short of a complete overhaul.
On the other hand, I've grown to quite like the look of the 2G TSX.
Like I said the car is a great performer, but if I'm going to spend that much coin on a car I better like the way it looks and not just be "okay" with it.
The 2G TSX isn't bad at all. I'd take a V6 over the FWD TL. Living in Cali, I don't need AWD or a huge ass car. I just wanted something similar in size to my 3G, but much more sportier. Acura didn't have it.
08-08-2010, 10:12 AM
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08-08-2010, 04:42 PM
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The 4g is that one kinda bootsy chick you're messing with on the side you don't want your buddies to know about, but you're having a ton of fun doing....
08-08-2010, 05:03 PM
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08-08-2010, 07:03 PM
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I feel the need...
This has been discussed before, but I think many would agree. Acura should have put the J in the RDX and the RDX Turbo in the TSX.
Power plenums aside (I still feel ridiculous even saying the term), Acura's SoCal designers are probably already hard at work to rectify their past misdeeds. Don't fret jilted lovers - Honda will be back...someday. Or not. Until then, enjoy the ugly discounts.
08-08-2010, 08:58 PM
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This was one reason I almost didn't buy the TL. It is sorta too big for my commuting needs. If Acura had put the RDX powertrain in the TSX with a 6MT, I would have been all over it, but really wanted a 6MT again, which is why a lot of cars I would normally have considered got crossed off the list.
This has been discussed before, but I think many would agree. Acura should have put the J in the RDX and the RDX Turbo in the TSX.
Power plenums aside (I still feel ridiculous even saying the term), Acura's SoCal designers are probably already hard at work to rectify their past misdeeds. Don't fret jilted lovers - Honda will be back...someday. Or not. Until then, enjoy the ugly discounts.
This has been discussed before, but I think many would agree. Acura should have put the J in the RDX and the RDX Turbo in the TSX.
Power plenums aside (I still feel ridiculous even saying the term), Acura's SoCal designers are probably already hard at work to rectify their past misdeeds. Don't fret jilted lovers - Honda will be back...someday. Or not. Until then, enjoy the ugly discounts.
My only backseat passenger is my dog. If it wasn't for him you'd probably see me in a leased S5.
08-08-2010, 10:23 PM
#5500
This was one reason I almost didn't buy the TL. It is sorta too big for my commuting needs. If Acura had put the RDX powertrain in the TSX with a 6MT, I would have been all over it, but really wanted a 6MT again, which is why a lot of cars I would normally have considered got crossed off the list.
This has been discussed before, but I think many would agree. Acura should have put the J in the RDX and the RDX Turbo in the TSX.
Power plenums aside (I still feel ridiculous even saying the term), Acura's SoCal designers are probably already hard at work to rectify their past misdeeds. Don't fret jilted lovers - Honda will be back...someday. Or not. Until then, enjoy the ugly discounts.
This has been discussed before, but I think many would agree. Acura should have put the J in the RDX and the RDX Turbo in the TSX.
Power plenums aside (I still feel ridiculous even saying the term), Acura's SoCal designers are probably already hard at work to rectify their past misdeeds. Don't fret jilted lovers - Honda will be back...someday. Or not. Until then, enjoy the ugly discounts.
The biggest thing that can help Acura is getting some sort of revolutionary technology into their models that no one else has or comes close to that gives them a distinct advantage. Problem is we have seen no signs of this yet. They need to do that first and then focus on their status, market shift, etc.
08-08-2010, 10:33 PM
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They need to first focus on their styling mishaps. I have a feeling the rest can fall into place eventually.
08-09-2010, 11:48 AM
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08-09-2010, 12:08 PM
#5504
Whats up with RDX owners?
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Serious question - How much ground clearance does the Honda Jet have?
08-09-2010, 01:18 PM
#5505
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About 35,000 feet.
About 35,000 feet.
08-09-2010, 03:48 PM
#5507
I'm the Firestarter
More importantly, does it have door latches?
08-09-2010, 04:17 PM
#5508
Problem now with that turbo I4 is, its fuel economy sucks. Acura needs to match or do better on its fuel economy compared to the new Hyundai turbo I4 going into the Sonata.
The biggest thing that can help Acura is getting some sort of revolutionary technology into their models that no one else has or comes close to that gives them a distinct advantage. Problem is we have seen no signs of this yet. They need to do that first and then focus on their status, market shift, etc.
The biggest thing that can help Acura is getting some sort of revolutionary technology into their models that no one else has or comes close to that gives them a distinct advantage. Problem is we have seen no signs of this yet. They need to do that first and then focus on their status, market shift, etc.
look at the performance improvement at 40k mile. It is faster than MDX/ZDX and it got 20mpg combined. and that without 6speed auto.
subtract 1 second time for 6speed auto or 6MT and ur RDX becomes 21st century Acura NSX.
http://www.caranddriver.com/var/ezfl...4d153a9672.pdf
I would say FWD lighter and lower TSX with will get closer to 25mpg combined with better performance than V6. there is some thing about turbo torque from Honda.
08-09-2010, 04:42 PM
#5509
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RDX fuel economy sucks?. It is AWD 3900 lb 65" tall/ 73inch wide vehicle with 5speed.
look at the performance improvement at 40k mile. It is faster than MDX/ZDX and it got 20mpg combined. and that without 6speed auto.
subtract 1 second time for 6speed auto or 6MT and ur RDX becomes 21st century Acura NSX.
http://www.caranddriver.com/var/ezfl...4d153a9672.pdf
look at the performance improvement at 40k mile. It is faster than MDX/ZDX and it got 20mpg combined. and that without 6speed auto.
subtract 1 second time for 6speed auto or 6MT and ur RDX becomes 21st century Acura NSX.
http://www.caranddriver.com/var/ezfl...4d153a9672.pdf
08-09-2010, 04:47 PM
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08-09-2010, 04:52 PM
#5511
Whats up with RDX owners?
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08-09-2010, 06:52 PM
#5512
6G TLX-S
If Honda insists on keeping the V8 program dead, it should work on a new V6 powerplant capable of producing V8-like power output, as well as great mileage which again WAS why Honda had been famous for.
08-10-2010, 08:50 AM
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RDX fuel economy sucks?. It is AWD 3900 lb 65" tall/ 73inch wide vehicle with 5speed.
look at the performance improvement at 40k mile. It is faster than MDX/ZDX and it got 20mpg combined. and that without 6speed auto.
subtract 1 second time for 6speed auto or 6MT and ur RDX becomes 21st century Acura NSX.
http://www.caranddriver.com/var/ezfl...4d153a9672.pdf
I would say FWD lighter and lower TSX with will get closer to 25mpg combined with better performance than V6. there is some thing about turbo torque from Honda.
look at the performance improvement at 40k mile. It is faster than MDX/ZDX and it got 20mpg combined. and that without 6speed auto.
subtract 1 second time for 6speed auto or 6MT and ur RDX becomes 21st century Acura NSX.
http://www.caranddriver.com/var/ezfl...4d153a9672.pdf
I would say FWD lighter and lower TSX with will get closer to 25mpg combined with better performance than V6. there is some thing about turbo torque from Honda.
The RDX will soon be a Porsche 911 turbo slayer. Wanna know why? Ground clearance and side mirrors. People are going to see the Acura badge and immediately know they are dealing with a high performance machine.
My 21st century NSX will take out sports cars, SUVs and if they add sliding rear doors it'll put a Sienna to shame. What can't it do, a car err CUV that can do everything? Oh just sell in the numbers Acura hoped for..................
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08-10-2010, 09:19 AM
#5515
Where do you come up with this what if shit? Add another cog to the transmission and the CUV competes with a purpose built sports car for the 21st century oh and you can fit your dog and wife in there too!
The RDX will soon be a Porsche 911 turbo slayer. Wanna know why? Ground clearance and side mirrors. People are going to see the Acura badge and immediately know they are dealing with a high performance machine.
My 21st century NSX will take out sports cars, SUVs and if they add sliding rear doors it'll put a Sienna to shame. What can't it do, a car err CUV that can do everything? Oh just sell in the numbers Acura hoped for..................
Post #2000 dedicated to putting SSFTSX in his place.
The RDX will soon be a Porsche 911 turbo slayer. Wanna know why? Ground clearance and side mirrors. People are going to see the Acura badge and immediately know they are dealing with a high performance machine.
My 21st century NSX will take out sports cars, SUVs and if they add sliding rear doors it'll put a Sienna to shame. What can't it do, a car err CUV that can do everything? Oh just sell in the numbers Acura hoped for..................
Post #2000 dedicated to putting SSFTSX in his place.
08-10-2010, 11:17 AM
#5516
אני עומד עם ישראל
LoL they're headed that way. HondAcura needs to curb the tide.
08-10-2010, 11:46 AM
#5517
I'm the Firestarter
RDX fuel economy sucks?. It is AWD 3900 lb 65" tall/ 73inch wide vehicle with 5speed.
look at the performance improvement at 40k mile. It is faster than MDX/ZDX and it got 20mpg combined. and that without 6speed auto.
subtract 1 second time for 6speed auto or 6MT and ur RDX becomes 21st century Acura NSX.
http://www.caranddriver.com/var/ezfl...4d153a9672.pdf
I would say FWD lighter and lower TSX with will get closer to 25mpg combined with better performance than V6. there is some thing about turbo torque from Honda.
look at the performance improvement at 40k mile. It is faster than MDX/ZDX and it got 20mpg combined. and that without 6speed auto.
subtract 1 second time for 6speed auto or 6MT and ur RDX becomes 21st century Acura NSX.
http://www.caranddriver.com/var/ezfl...4d153a9672.pdf
I would say FWD lighter and lower TSX with will get closer to 25mpg combined with better performance than V6. there is some thing about turbo torque from Honda.
08-10-2010, 12:32 PM
#5518
I never said RDX is upmarket vehicle. It needs to go upmarket in design, interior and 6speed Auto. It is on sale since August 2006. so it is 5 year old already.
In FWD RDX C&D test it achieved 136mph top speed and 21mpg fuel economy.
It does no suck in fuel economy when you look at performance numbers a for tall wide vehicle that is heavier than TSX-V6. Tires are also tall 235/55/18. Most of its competitors have 6speed.
Most harhsest critics said its turbo engine is the best from its sound and boost.
In FWD RDX C&D test it achieved 136mph top speed and 21mpg fuel economy.
It does no suck in fuel economy when you look at performance numbers a for tall wide vehicle that is heavier than TSX-V6. Tires are also tall 235/55/18. Most of its competitors have 6speed.
Most harhsest critics said its turbo engine is the best from its sound and boost.
http://www.thetruthaboutcars.com/review-2009-acura-rdx/
Few cars leave me with such mixed feelings. The RDX’s engine and handling are the best you’re going to get short of the best you can get from the SUV set, but the brand’s invisibility, the CUV’s lack of practicality and efficiency, and the depreciation all steer you in a different direction. ANY different direction.
What I want is the RDX’s engine and AWD system in a 3,200lb car, not a 4,000lb tank. God only knows why Honda refuses to give us a properly turbocharged Integra replacement and hands us this instead. Wrong answer.
Few cars leave me with such mixed feelings. The RDX’s engine and handling are the best you’re going to get short of the best you can get from the SUV set, but the brand’s invisibility, the CUV’s lack of practicality and efficiency, and the depreciation all steer you in a different direction. ANY different direction.
What I want is the RDX’s engine and AWD system in a 3,200lb car, not a 4,000lb tank. God only knows why Honda refuses to give us a properly turbocharged Integra replacement and hands us this instead. Wrong answer.
http://www.insideline.com/acura/rdx/...acura-rdx.html
The RDX sits nicely between these two vehicles in price but ranks very high in comfort and toys. And the Acura's turbo boost speaks the language of love, my friends. Bravissimo.
The RDX sits nicely between these two vehicles in price but ranks very high in comfort and toys. And the Acura's turbo boost speaks the language of love, my friends. Bravissimo.
08-10-2010, 02:21 PM
#5519
I'm the Firestarter
08-10-2010, 04:07 PM
#5520