Acura: NSX News
11-06-2007 | 07:31 PM
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From: Lexington
Originally Posted by dom
I hope you meant to say Front engined.
11-06-2007 | 07:35 PM
#1282
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From: Lexington
Originally Posted by iforyou
and less drag...less lift...lighter...
Like I said - this car was built to last a decade, but after 2002, Honda/Acura was pushing it too hard. It should have gone out in 01/02 and come back in 03 as the HSC.
Sochiro Honda's death really did a number on the company throughout the 90s. They went through 3 CEOs before they settled down a few years ago - now hopefully, we'll see a NSX replacement that is worthy of the name.
11-07-2007 | 07:46 AM
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Originally Posted by vishnus11
Yep, NA1 to NA2 was a significant update, not just a mild facelift. For such an advanced car, there was no need to redesign the whole thing. It was all-aluminum and remained the sole car in its class to use this material, till the 360 Modena came along in 2000.
Like I said - this car was built to last a decade, but after 2002, Honda/Acura was pushing it too hard. It should have gone out in 01/02 and come back in 03 as the HSC.
Sochiro Honda's death really did a number on the company throughout the 90s. They went through 3 CEOs before they settled down a few years ago - now hopefully, we'll see a NSX replacement that is worthy of the name.
Like I said - this car was built to last a decade, but after 2002, Honda/Acura was pushing it too hard. It should have gone out in 01/02 and come back in 03 as the HSC.
Sochiro Honda's death really did a number on the company throughout the 90s. They went through 3 CEOs before they settled down a few years ago - now hopefully, we'll see a NSX replacement that is worthy of the name.
They remind me of the engineers that spend so much time doing, doing, scrapping, redoing, scrapping, redoing, etc. just to make it perfect, but not realizing that they DON'T HAVE A PRODUCT!
It's an obvious case of losing sight of the forest for the trees.
11-07-2007 | 08:47 AM
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Originally Posted by mrdeeno
They should have phased out the NSX in '00 and phased in the HSC at least to keep people more interested in Acura, then came out with whatever they will come out with around '08-09, rather than pushing the NSX into late 2000 and then killing it and losing any brand equity that the NSX built.
They remind me of the engineers that spend so much time doing, doing, scrapping, redoing, scrapping, redoing, etc. just to make it perfect, but not realizing that they DON'T HAVE A PRODUCT!
It's an obvious case of losing sight of the forest for the trees.
They remind me of the engineers that spend so much time doing, doing, scrapping, redoing, scrapping, redoing, etc. just to make it perfect, but not realizing that they DON'T HAVE A PRODUCT!
It's an obvious case of losing sight of the forest for the trees.
But is it really because Honda is "anal" and wants it perfect? I'm not so sure. In the end this is a business and I have to believe we are seing business decisions. I think they are unsure of what this product should be and where it should position itself in terms of features and cost.
Regardless, I agree with you (and most others) who say Honda is making bad decisions over and over again. I guess that's not even a subjective opinion. Based on brand value and market position, they have clearly lost ground over the last 10 years. Whatever they think they're doing, they need to stop doing it and try something else.
11-07-2007 | 06:47 PM
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On the other hand we should admire how much they were able to squeeze out from the NSX. Even though it's an old design, the Type R model could still shame a lot of so called "supercars" in terms of track performance. Of course, it would be nice if they come up with a new design earlier.
11-18-2007 | 03:31 PM
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Weren't we supposed to see the NSX concept at the tokyo auto show ???
http://www.vtec.net/modelmatrix/
http://www.vtec.net/modelmatrix/
11-18-2007 | 05:03 PM
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From: Orlando, FLA
Originally Posted by GreenMonster
Weren't we supposed to see the NSX concept at the tokyo auto show ???
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11-23-2007 | 03:16 PM
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^^ 
I still appreciate all Honda has done for internal combustion engine, I love their reliability and residual value. But seriously, they are losing credibility in a significant way because of their fumble on the next, next, next....NSX.
I still appreciate all Honda has done for internal combustion engine, I love their reliability and residual value. But seriously, they are losing credibility in a significant way because of their fumble on the next, next, next....NSX.
12-18-2007 | 04:01 PM
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apology if this was posted somewhere but I looked back and didn't see any posts or talk about it.. what a sound!! esp about half-way through 
http://www.dpccars.com/car-videos/07...urburgring.htm
I think this is real!
http://www.dpccars.com/car-videos/07...urburgring.htm
Originally Posted by Yumchah
I love vaporcars. 
NSX 
12-18-2007 | 07:24 PM
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Originally Posted by srika
apology if this was posted somewhere but I looked back and didn't see any posts or talk about it.. what a sound!! esp about half-way through
http://www.dpccars.com/car-videos/07...urburgring.htm
I think this is real!
http://www.dpccars.com/car-videos/07...urburgring.htm
I think this is real!
12-19-2007 | 11:55 AM
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2010
Honda Confirms NSX for 2010
Honda has recently confirmed speculation that its next-gen Acura NSX will arrive over a year later than the expected 2008-2009 timeframe earlier suggested by CEO Takeo Fukui. The news comes after president of Honda America Tetsuo Iwamura let slip that the car will arrive in 2010 and said “we are developing it without any delay.”
A report from Ward’s Auto suggests that the U.S. could be the first market to receive the sports car ahead of its home market Japan. “In case of the introduction order, at this moment I can’t tell, but the U.S., you know, has a majority of the (Acura) customers – that (is something) you have to think about,” Iwamura was quoted as saying.
So far little is known about the NSX, with a credible concept yet to be released. Honda did unveil the Acura Advanced Sports Car Concept (pictured) in Detroit earlier this year and a production version was expected for Tokyo, but this was not to be as the concept was called for a redesign. What is known is that it will feature an all new V10 and is expected to be more of a luxury GT than the high-tech supercar the previous model was.
Honda has recently confirmed speculation that its next-gen Acura NSX will arrive over a year later than the expected 2008-2009 timeframe earlier suggested by CEO Takeo Fukui. The news comes after president of Honda America Tetsuo Iwamura let slip that the car will arrive in 2010 and said “we are developing it without any delay.”
A report from Ward’s Auto suggests that the U.S. could be the first market to receive the sports car ahead of its home market Japan. “In case of the introduction order, at this moment I can’t tell, but the U.S., you know, has a majority of the (Acura) customers – that (is something) you have to think about,” Iwamura was quoted as saying.
So far little is known about the NSX, with a credible concept yet to be released. Honda did unveil the Acura Advanced Sports Car Concept (pictured) in Detroit earlier this year and a production version was expected for Tokyo, but this was not to be as the concept was called for a redesign. What is known is that it will feature an all new V10 and is expected to be more of a luxury GT than the high-tech supercar the previous model was.
12-20-2007 | 10:07 AM
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Originally Posted by Moog-Type-S
Nsx = Doa
However, I bet once the car actually shows, I have a strong feeling you will be surprised (one way or another) at this reincarnation. I think they will change the layout and it will be a GT tourer (a la Aston Martin ... remember people close to the top mentioning this in another thread???) And I strongly hope they will not use the "NSX" name if they go this direction.
It will be far too late for me and at a price range too rich for my blood. But there's nothing wrong dreaming ...
PS I hope there will be a surprise from Honda at the Detroit show ...
And better than the concept they showed last year ... 
01-14-2008 | 10:41 AM
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Bump
*The new 2009 super GT regulations have changes making it so the cars need to be running a 3.4L V8 FR platform. There are photos already of a stretched NSX CF body testing in japan already. So if honda heritage comes through then the neo nsx will be FR but with the V10 in place of the race v8.
01-15-2008 | 01:04 PM
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Originally Posted by swift22
*The new 2009 super GT regulations have changes making it so the cars need to be running a 3.4L V8 FR platform. There are photos already of a stretched NSX CF body testing in japan already. So if honda heritage comes through then the neo nsx will be FR but with the V10 in place of the race v8.
01-15-2008 | 04:33 PM
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Originally Posted by swift22
*The new 2009 super GT regulations have changes making it so the cars need to be running a 3.4L V8 FR platform. There are photos already of a stretched NSX CF body testing in japan already. So if honda heritage comes through then the neo nsx will be FR but with the V10 in place of the race v8.
01-21-2008 | 11:28 AM
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Originally Posted by leftlanenews
January21
2008-acura-nsx-advanced-sports-car-concept.jpg
Despite Honda's intentions to move its Acura brand upscale, the marque is still without an image vehicle. The NSX used to hold that position in the Acura lineup, but Honda failed to replace the halo car after its production ended in 2005. Honda showed its Advanced Sports Car Concept at last year's Detroit Auto Show, a preview of the next-generation NSX, but failed to deliver a production version — as Honda said it would — at the 2007 Tokyo show.
According to Dick Colliver, executive vice president of American Honda Motor Co., the delay has been because designers can't agree on the NSX's styling. "All of the designers are working together on the NSX, but they can't agree on the styling," he told Automotive News.
Collier also admitted that Acura left the last-generation NSX on the market for too long without any significant upgrades. He said that trend would not continue on the next iteration of the car. "We must get it right. We must have the right image. A lot of it is perception with the customer," Collier said.
While details on the new NSX remain scarce, it is known that the car will be powered by a V10 powerplant.
Honda says the next-generation NSX will hit the market before the redesigned Acura RL, which will bow in 2010.
2008-acura-nsx-advanced-sports-car-concept.jpg
Despite Honda's intentions to move its Acura brand upscale, the marque is still without an image vehicle. The NSX used to hold that position in the Acura lineup, but Honda failed to replace the halo car after its production ended in 2005. Honda showed its Advanced Sports Car Concept at last year's Detroit Auto Show, a preview of the next-generation NSX, but failed to deliver a production version — as Honda said it would — at the 2007 Tokyo show.
According to Dick Colliver, executive vice president of American Honda Motor Co., the delay has been because designers can't agree on the NSX's styling. "All of the designers are working together on the NSX, but they can't agree on the styling," he told Automotive News.
Collier also admitted that Acura left the last-generation NSX on the market for too long without any significant upgrades. He said that trend would not continue on the next iteration of the car. "We must get it right. We must have the right image. A lot of it is perception with the customer," Collier said.
While details on the new NSX remain scarce, it is known that the car will be powered by a V10 powerplant.
Honda says the next-generation NSX will hit the market before the redesigned Acura RL, which will bow in 2010.
But to Honda's defense, anything less than awesome would have been detrimental to the brand. The GT-R would have spanked the NSX at Tokyo's autoshow. Honda would have been disgraced. Better not to come up with something than to show something that the competitors would chew up and spit out.
01-21-2008 | 11:41 AM
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Originally Posted by derrick
Wow ... what a surprise. The designers can't make their minds up. So much is riding on the NSX. Who would have thought?
But to Honda's defense, anything less than awesome would have been detrimental to the brand. The GT-R would have spanked the NSX at Tokyo's autoshow. Honda would have been disgraced. Better not to come up with something than to show something that the competitors would chew up and spit out.
But to Honda's defense, anything less than awesome would have been detrimental to the brand. The GT-R would have spanked the NSX at Tokyo's autoshow. Honda would have been disgraced. Better not to come up with something than to show something that the competitors would chew up and spit out.
now they have some time to get something better. 
01-21-2008 | 01:37 PM
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Originally Posted by mrdeeno
...because over a decade wasn't enough time.
I'd have to agree... They saw the NSX sales decline, but didn't do a thing about it... discontinued the car without a replacement (ala the CLS), and still don't have a replacement...
How long was the HSC concept shown ?? They should have gotten their act together since then... It shouldnt' take 3 years to decide on styling...
Until I see something different, I really believe that Acura is just satisfied making SUV's and sedans (and crossovers soon)...
From their actions they don't care about coupes anymore... (there you go Dom, there's my acura coupe quote for the week
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01-21-2008 | 11:03 PM
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to clarify to what i said earlier. Regulations of changed on the fuel and the platform being used in GT racing. So one of the race prepped NSXs which usually would have a midengine v6 was photographed at a track already with a stretched body with a v8 engine in the front. So the point is honda already has an FR platform to house some serious ponies and is testing it now.
Ps- NSX sales declined because of the lack of a radical remodeling such as other models. Reason for this was because of a contract through various third parties for a set number of cars to be built or X amount of years. So honda had to fill the contract.
Ps- NSX sales declined because of the lack of a radical remodeling such as other models. Reason for this was because of a contract through various third parties for a set number of cars to be built or X amount of years. So honda had to fill the contract.
01-22-2008 | 08:10 AM
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Originally Posted by mrdeeno
...because over a decade wasn't enough time.
01-22-2008 | 01:01 PM
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Originally Posted by fsttyms1
Guess i should have put that in red text. Figured every one would have known they had more than enough time to do that
01-22-2008 | 01:06 PM
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Originally Posted by Edward'TLS
Exactly, Honda could have inserted and phased out a full new-NSX model cycle within all those years of non-decision on the NSX successor.
they could have easily have made one and phased it out by now and be bringing a new model out
01-22-2008 | 03:30 PM
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Originally Posted by swift22
Ps- NSX sales declined because of the lack of a radical remodeling such as other models. Reason for this was because of a contract through various third parties for a set number of cars to be built or X amount of years. So honda had to fill the contract.
Once again, piss poor product planning on the part of H/A. Whoever signed a 15 year contract with the outside vendors should be shot !!
Hmm... Wonder if the s2k will make it to 15 years old without a major refresh...
03-31-2008 | 01:45 PM
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Rendered Speculation: 2010 Acura NSX
We've known for quite some time now that the Acura NSX replacement would feature a V10 engine likely at the front of the vehicle and possibly powering all four wheels via a version of the brand's SH-AWD. Now that Nissan's amazing new GT-R has set a new standard for what a Japanese supercar can be, the next NSX had better be something impressive indeed, and rumors are that it will be just that. What we still don't know is what this car will look like, so we're very interested in what Japanese car-buff-mag Best Car claims is a rendering of the new NSX. If this is an accurate portrayal, we're glad that Acura stylists found a way to leave off the big metal triangular grill that is plaguing the rest of its lineup, as it just doesn't seem befitting for a sportscar. Although the only rendering offered is an angled shot from the drivers-side front, this coupe still seems a little generic to our eyes, but at least looks better than what we saw from the Advanced Sports Car Concept last year in Detroit.
Fans of Acura's first generation NSX, including all of us at Autoblog, are going to have a tough time waiting until 2010 for the next version to bow, but we're sure to have an endless stream of spy shots and a perpetually overactive rumormill to keep us busy till then.
Fans of Acura's first generation NSX, including all of us at Autoblog, are going to have a tough time waiting until 2010 for the next version to bow, but we're sure to have an endless stream of spy shots and a perpetually overactive rumormill to keep us busy till then.