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Old 10-26-2015, 01:22 PM
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Originally Posted by Joneill44
I still like the looks of it after a grille wrap of course
It's definitely a nice looking car overall. But as JS + BRZ said, the interior is kinda meh... a bit plain looking. Doesn't look any better than what you'd find in a RLX, MDX, etc. A halo car should have a really nice looking interior.


And that navi location. You never put it under the vents.
Old 10-26-2015, 01:32 PM
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Originally Posted by JS + BRZ
Road & Track review summed it up very well. Love how it ended.
Yep. "There was a time when you felt a little NSX in your Accord. Now there's too much Accord in your NSX." That's pretty much bang on.

Originally Posted by AZuser
And that navi location. You never put it under the vents.
Be thankful that it only has one screen.
Old 10-26-2015, 01:33 PM
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Originally Posted by SamDoe1
Be thankful that it only has one screen.
One of the few things they got right
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New NSX sucks more cawk than all of 3G Ramblings put together. That's a lot of cawk.
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Originally Posted by Majofo
One of the few things they got right
Aren't we due for a MMC by the time this fucking thing shows up? Guess how many screens it'll have then...
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3 screens.

1 for radio
1 for rear view camera
1 for cawk ratings
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You forgot:

1 for climate control
1 for VTEC gauge
1 for SH-AWD power vectoring
1 for navi
1 for...
Old 10-26-2015, 01:53 PM
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I cant wait for the 8 years old GTR vs. The brand new but 8 years delayed NSX

Regardless what the # says, if the NSX can't beat a 8 years old GTR at 150k, the Nissan should be laughing at Honda.

But somehow i still think the GTR Nismo is going to be faster while being older, heavier, with no battery.
Old 10-26-2015, 01:55 PM
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Unreal. I waited and waited and waited and waited and bittered and waited and venomed and waited and waited and snarked and waited and waited and waited and bittered s'more and waited and waited and spewed more venom and waited and waited and snarked and waited and waited for these mediocre specs and the fact the NSX is an overweight fat@$$ trying to keep up with the Germans.



Honda: You idiots.
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Remember folks: Honda hates you.
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There seems to be a lot of negativity here about the new NSX....

Here's my understanding based on all these reviews from C/D, MT, RT, AB, etc:

- The turbocharged V6 does NOT have VTEC
- Turbo lag is virtually non-detectable due to electric motors
- The NSX in quiet and sport mode is, as Honda promised, drives like a everyday's car.
- Things get more interested in Sport Plus mode.
- In Track mode with the Michelin's, the NSX is a beast.
- The optional Conti's are bad for track use but good for everyday's driving
- As predicted, the NSX is not light
- The NSX is fast, but the question is how fast? No one can comment on that unless a proper test and/or comparo is done.
- Steering feel comparable to 911's according to C/D

Subjectively, I thought this new NSX fits the NSX name plate - New Sportcar eXperimental. I can't think of any car in this price range that is quite like the new NSX (whether it's a good or bad thing greatly depends on one's preference). It's just like how the original NSX was twice as expensive as the R32 GTR, but the GTR at that time was actually faster. Was that good or bad?

I think the $150-200k market is now filled with different super cars with different characters. If you have that kind of money to spend on a car, there are a lot of choices available.
Old 10-26-2015, 02:10 PM
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Originally Posted by iforyou
There seems to be a lot of negativity here about the new NSX....

Here's my understanding based on all these reviews from C/D, MT, RT, AB, etc:

- The turbocharged V6 does NOT have VTEC
- Turbo lag is virtually non-detectable due to electric motors
- The NSX in quiet and sport mode is, as Honda promised, drives like a everyday's car.
- Things get more interested in Sport Plus mode.
- In Track mode with the Michelin's, the NSX is a beast.
- The optional Conti's are bad for track use but good for everyday's driving
- As predicted, the NSX is not light
- The NSX is fast, but the question is how fast? No one can comment on that unless a proper test and/or comparo is done.
- Steering feel comparable to 911's according to C/D

Subjectively, I thought this new NSX fits the NSX name plate - New Sportcar eXperimental. I can't think of any car in this price range that is quite like the new NSX (whether it's a good or bad thing greatly depends on one's preference). It's just like how the original NSX was twice as expensive as the R32 GTR, but the GTR at that time was actually faster. Was that good or bad?

I think the $150-200k market is now filled with different super cars with different characters. If you have that kind of money to spend on a car, there are a lot of choices available.
I thought a lot of people hated the new 911 steering or was it 991?

and

This is the thing, back in the days it was ok. 2016/2017 is A LOT different than early 90s.

and whoever thought the NSX was going to be sub 3000 lbs 10 or 20 pages back.. keep dreaming... I know you are looking
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Originally Posted by Yumcha
We have specs?!?????

Per the article, 573HP, 476 pound-feet of torque, and 3,803-pound curb weight...
Yeah...remember my post a while back about the NSX possibly being a decent competitor to the 570S (given what we knew then about HP), if they could keep the weight down? Well, turns out they couldn't and it won't. Bummer.

That being said, it sounds like they did make a good car...for about five years ago.

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Old 10-26-2015, 02:54 PM
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i am actually very surprised about the torque #s given it has turbo and battery.

The car with "similar tech"

918 AWD
Horsepower: 887 HP
Torque: 944 lb-ft

RLX Sport Hybrid with upgraded tires
Horsepower: Infinite
Torque: More than you can count

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Old 10-26-2015, 02:58 PM
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Do you even torque vector breh? #maff
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Nope. too technical for me. I only need torque in the rear all the time, 100% of the time.


and yes in the rear
Old 10-26-2015, 03:01 PM
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The torque is probably pretty flat.. it probably could put down more, but designed to stay flat.

Also.. if Common core math taught me anything, it's:
406 + 2(54) + 1(109) = 476
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Old 10-26-2015, 03:16 PM
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It will be curious to see if the aftermarket world touches this car. With it being really one of the first affordable supercars with this kind of hybrid/battery setup, I wonder what would happen if the power was boosted to 650-700hp
Old 10-26-2015, 03:42 PM
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Seriously, wtf is the point of all this bickering. Even if this car had everything you want. I doubt any of you would actually have gotten it.
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Old 10-26-2015, 03:49 PM
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Like others have said, this is pretty mediocre. I like the styling, but wishes it would performs better.
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That is the case for 90% of the posts here in Cartalk.

Talk about cars that are really not relevant to us. So, we just talk...
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Old 10-26-2015, 03:51 PM
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Originally Posted by Mizouse
Seriously, wtf is the point of all this bickering. Even if this car had everything you want. I doubt any of you would actually have gotten it.
As a car enthusiast/fan...we critique and praise any "cool" car that comes.

The NSX is SUPPOSED to be cool...given it's heritage and history. Anyhoo...
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Originally Posted by Mizouse
Seriously, wtf is the point of all this bickering. Even if this car had everything you want. I doubt any of you would actually have gotten it.
Same could be said about the ladies you discuss..
Old 10-26-2015, 04:33 PM
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so far so good. i wasnt expecting 1000hp car nor was i excepting 3200lbs car with 3 electric motors. we still havent seen any performance numbers yet so how we not bury this thing until they test it.
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Old 10-26-2015, 04:48 PM
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Originally Posted by Majofo
Same could be said about the ladies you discuss..
Oh... the burn.....
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when did they release specs?

and are they going to market this thing?


cuz fuck, it looks like i'm already like a week late to know and only because i'm on an enthusiast site....
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I think it is still too early to market the NSX... cuz Honda knows it might get delayed again.


When the time comes, if it was up to me, fuck the millions in commercial.

Get 20 production ready cars 2 months prior to the delivery date and just park them all over the city and drive around town is the best way to market it.

Hopefully it will get some customers to their dealership to look at their RLX and TLX

That is the whole point because the NSX itself is already sold out for the first year or 2.
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Originally Posted by Mizouse
Seriously, wtf is the point of all this bickering. Even if this car had everything you want. I doubt any of you would actually have gotten it.
Will I likely ever end up owning a LaFerrari? No, but I'm an enthusiast, so I like talking about it.

Will I likely ever own a McClaren? No, but I'm an enthusiast, so I like talking about it.

Will I likely ever own an Aston Martin? No, but I'm an enthusiast, so I like talking about it.

Need I go on?

BTW, the real key here is that NO ONE FORCED YOU TO READ THIS THREAD.

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Old 10-26-2015, 07:31 PM
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The curb weight does not shock me, but it is nonetheless is a bit heavier than I expected.

Until I get to drive one, the mag racer in me says drop the heavy batteries and go for the Type-R RWD only version. Should be interesting to see how the dealers handle the early cue.
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without the battery it will become a 400hp-450hp 3500 RWD car...

and it is popular to charge more for less these days, i will not be paying $150-200k for a 400hp car that weighs 3500 lbs.... type R or not.
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Originally Posted by oonowindoo
without the battery it will become a 400hp-450hp 3500 RWD car...

Apparently you fail in reading comprehension. Without the batteries, the engine alone is 500hp, 406lbs tq.
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Exactly. I prefer the more "pedestrian" looks of the GTR. Hauls just as much ass without drawing the attention of every single person within viewing distance.
You forget the part about it being an ugly pig. Big diff.


Is the NSX worth 50-70k moar for being prettier?
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Originally Posted by ttribe
Will I likely ever end up owning a LaFerrari? No, but I'm an enthusiast, so I like talking about it.

Will I likely ever own a McClaren? No, but I'm an enthusiast, so I like talking about it.

Will I likely ever own an Aston Martin? No, but I'm an enthusiast, so I like talking about it.

Need I go on?

BTW, the real key here is that NO ONE FORCED YOU TO READ THIS THREAD.
Good post. In all honesty, I don't think there is any situation in which I could reasonably and conscientiously buy any of these cars, but I love them and love talking about them.

Regarding the NSX, it's fine. It's not a Ferrari-changer like the original, but it's good enough.
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i did not fail because i did not even read it

Even at 500lbs it is still not enough considering the cars it is going up against.

I would expect either 650hp, 3500lb or 500hp 3000 lbs to be worth of the Type R name.
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Originally Posted by Fibonacci
You forget the part about it being an ugly pig. Big diff.


Is the NSX worth 50-70k moar for being prettier?
As the way it sits, i personally would take the ugly GTR any day.
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Originally Posted by kurtatx
Good post. In all honesty, I don't think there is any situation in which I could reasonably and conscientiously buy any of these cars, but I love them and love talking about them.

Regarding the NSX, it's fine. It's not a Ferrari-changer like the original, but it's good enough.
That is the problem. The Acura we used to love was never about good enough. When they make a sports car like s2000/NSX, they will make sure it is unique and not following what has been done already.
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Originally Posted by MSZ
Like others have said, this is pretty mediocre. I like the styling, but wishes it would performs better.
Performance is better than 99.9% of existing road cars.

95% of the performance of a 918 for 1/6th the price, what is not to like?

I might even argue that it looks better than a 918.
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Originally Posted by oonowindoo
As the way it sits, i personally would take the ugly GTR any day.
I've driven a GTR but I haven't driven an NSX so I'll reserve judgement.

But IMO the GTR is still a fast but fugly pig.
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BTW, I'm just here for the "vapor" jokes...
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Originally Posted by Fibonacci
Performance is better than 99.9% of existing road cars.

95% of the performance of a 918 for 1/6th the price, what is not to like?

I might even argue that it looks better than a 918.
Now, that's just crazy-talk.


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