Acura: NSX News
08-31-2015, 05:31 PM
#5801
Cars like the NSX arrive every few years in order to rejuvenate a brand. We saw it with the Audi R8, we're seeing it with the Jaguar F-Type, and we're about to see it again with the new NSX. But the general consensus is, that in order for the NSX to be successful, it needs to have a solid mainstream lineup behind it, or at least one solid mainstream car. That’s only partly true.
Between 2002 and 2005 when the NSX was new and on sale, Acura—as a whole—sold almost 210,000 cars in a single year (2005). If you remember the Acura lineup in the early 2000s, that’s almost unbelievable. The only shimmer of hope being the TSX. But somehow, just having the NSX as a calling card worked, and consumers flocked.
We can probably all agree that Acura's lineup isn't perfect, but it's not terrible; definitely not as bad as it was in the early 2000s.
Between 2002 and 2005 when the NSX was new and on sale, Acura—as a whole—sold almost 210,000 cars in a single year (2005). If you remember the Acura lineup in the early 2000s, that’s almost unbelievable. The only shimmer of hope being the TSX. But somehow, just having the NSX as a calling card worked, and consumers flocked.
We can probably all agree that Acura's lineup isn't perfect, but it's not terrible; definitely not as bad as it was in the early 2000s.
What is this guy smoking? Acura's entire line-up from early 2000's was solid. Much better than what they're offering now. Just look at the sales numbers. The TSX wasn't their "only shimmer of hope." The TSX didn't even hit its stride until the mid-2000's (2005-2007).
I'd say the 2G TL was a big success when it came out in 1998. It sold much better than what the TLX is doing now. In its 1st full year (1999), it sold 56,566 units in the U.S. The TLX is closer to hitting 45K units than 50K units this year (its 1st full year). And the 2G TL continued to sell well until the end of its life cycle.
2G TL: TSX:
2003 - 18,932
2004 - 30,365
2005 - 34,856
2006 - 38,035
2007 - 33,037
2008 - 31,998
2009 - 28,650
And when the 3G TL came out, the sales success of the TL line skyrocketed.2004 - 30,365
2005 - 34,856
2006 - 38,035
2007 - 33,037
2008 - 31,998
2009 - 28,650
3G TL:
2004 - 77,895
2005 - 78,218
2006 - 71,348
2007 - 58,545
2008 - 46,766
2005 - 78,218
2006 - 71,348
2007 - 58,545
2008 - 46,766
RL sales numbers were also much stronger back then vs what they are now for the RLX.
2000 - 14,827
2001 - 10,723
2002 - 9,392
2003 - 6,829
2004 - 8,753
2005 - 17,572
2006 - 11,501
2013 - 5,053 (1st year RLX sales)
2014 - 3,413
2015 - 1413 (thru July)
2001 - 10,723
2002 - 9,392
2003 - 6,829
2004 - 8,753
2005 - 17,572
2006 - 11,501
2013 - 5,053 (1st year RLX sales)
2014 - 3,413
2015 - 1413 (thru July)
The RSX sold better than what the ILX is doing now too.
RSX:
2002 - 30,117
2003 - 24,292
2004 - 21,940
2005 - 20,809
2006 - 16,996
ILX:2003 - 24,292
2004 - 21,940
2005 - 20,809
2006 - 16,996
2012 - 12,251
2013 - 20,430 (1st full year of sales)
2014 - 17,854
2015 - 10,084 (thru July)
2013 - 20,430 (1st full year of sales)
2014 - 17,854
2015 - 10,084 (thru July)
What he should have wrote was that the only shimmer of hope now for Acura is the TLX, because every other sedan in the line-up has been a sales disappointment.
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08-31-2015, 06:41 PM
#5802
I drive a Subata.
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RSX-S was an awesome car... I miss those things.
08-31-2015, 08:16 PM
#5803
Senior Moderator
Integra Type R was an awesomer car...I miss THAT. 
09-18-2015, 09:28 AM
#5804
At the 'ring. Its the same black one they have been driving around Europe. Looks fast but on high speed cornering some tire squealing perhaps suggest over-steering? Not sure, maybe they need new tires.
(at least I hope they notified the local fire department that they are coming at the 'ring
)
(at least I hope they notified the local fire department that they are coming at the 'ring
)
09-18-2015, 09:32 AM
#5805
Team Owner
They need to get the upgraded RLX tires put on the NSX asap.
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09-18-2015, 10:44 AM
#5806
Team Owner
i read on C&D that their estimate #s for the NSX was 1/4 mile 10.8. and 0-60 with 2.7
did not really read into it about the handling as i was falling asleep.
did not really read into it about the handling as i was falling asleep.
09-18-2015, 10:45 AM
#5807
Senior Moderator
No specs...no care. 
They can keep testing that until we're all dead for all I care.
They can keep testing that until we're all dead for all I care.
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09-18-2015, 03:57 PM
#5808
That video actually brought back memories of Ayrton Senna driving the NSX around Suzuka. Wish he was still around!
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09-18-2015, 04:16 PM
#5809
Senior Moderator
Senna = greatest...
09-23-2015, 08:01 PM
#5810
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Acura Sales Leadership Announcement
The only thing missing from that video are arms up the rear ends of these fellows. That was a very dry cue card reading. Not confidence inspiring. Acura should have picked someone that ACTUALLY knows the new NSX and is passionate about it, and can speak to it without reading a teleprompter.
"David Hendley has been appointed to the position of Vice President of Acura Field Operations, overseeing both Sales Field Operations and Parts & Service Field Operations. David has led Honda’s Field Operations for a number of years where he helped drive Honda to an all-time sales record last year. With more than 20 years of experience in American Honda’s Sales and Parts & Service divisions, David undoubtedly brings to Acura the experience, passion and proven success needed to further grow Acura Sales and Parts & Service Operations into the future and advance our brand in new ways. David will assume his new role on October 1.
David’s appointment follows the resignation of Matt Walsh after more than 25 years with American Honda. Matt has been a valued and respected member of both the Honda and Acura sales teams. Please join the entire Acura team in wishing Matt the best in the years to come and welcoming David to the Acura team".
09-24-2015, 02:12 PM
#5811
Team Owner
dying from the inside, out.
09-24-2015, 04:03 PM
#5812
Moderator
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09-25-2015, 06:49 AM
#5813
So basically, that guy pointed out why Acura sucks today, admitting the TLXs lacklustre sales numbers and overall as being "not the best option in the segment".
He even points out 2005s sales numbers and saying that the TSX was the only glimmer of hope. This guy obviously knows nothing about the TL. Those two cars sold over 60 of the 210k units for that year. Let's not forget the RSX that was still hot.affordable luxury? That was the car to have ten years ago. The new TLX is compared as being cheap plastic shit as far as luxury goes these days. It's dumb fucks like this who shouldn't be allowed to write articles.
Back in 2005, Acura was selling everything besides the NSX. Most people had no idea what the fuck an NSX even was at that point, with only 200ish
The new TLX is "leaps and bounds ahead of where Acura used to be, in terms of luxury" ??? What about the 3G TL that put Acura on the map of being sold. That, and it was 15 years old and the only thing attracting buyers was the funky colours inside and out that were not previously available.
But I like how he makes a point of addressing Acura's "faux sporty marketing scheme"
Acura is as sporty as a horse and wagon these days. I'm still waiting on this claim from the VP for the exhilarating performance, dynamic design and premium content. 
He even points out 2005s sales numbers and saying that the TSX was the only glimmer of hope. This guy obviously knows nothing about the TL. Those two cars sold over 60 of the 210k units for that year. Let's not forget the RSX that was still hot.affordable luxury? That was the car to have ten years ago. The new TLX is compared as being cheap plastic shit as far as luxury goes these days. It's dumb fucks like this who shouldn't be allowed to write articles.
Back in 2005, Acura was selling everything besides the NSX. Most people had no idea what the fuck an NSX even was at that point, with only 200ish
The new TLX is "leaps and bounds ahead of where Acura used to be, in terms of luxury" ??? What about the 3G TL that put Acura on the map of being sold. That, and it was 15 years old and the only thing attracting buyers was the funky colours inside and out that were not previously available.
But I like how he makes a point of addressing Acura's "faux sporty marketing scheme"
Acura is as sporty as a horse and wagon these days. I'm still waiting on this claim from the VP for the exhilarating performance, dynamic design and premium content.
09-25-2015, 10:38 AM
#5814
I am a diehard Acura fan and car nut in general. So I am going to make a statement that is blasphemy to most on here and to the general auto enthusiast.
The 4G TL is better looking and overall a much better car that the 3G TL.
The only drawback with the 4G styling wise was an overt grill that should have been mono-chrome at launch with tinted headlight/tailight bezels. Thats it.
The 4G from a pure design standpoint is much better than the 3G and the passage of time shows this.
Just my 2 cents.
The 4G TL is better looking and overall a much better car that the 3G TL.
The only drawback with the 4G styling wise was an overt grill that should have been mono-chrome at launch with tinted headlight/tailight bezels. Thats it.
The 4G from a pure design standpoint is much better than the 3G and the passage of time shows this.
Just my 2 cents.
09-25-2015, 10:40 AM
#5815
Team Owner
you forgot about the pointy rear bumper and ugly ass amber DRL on the lower bumper.
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09-25-2015, 11:00 AM
#5816
Senior Moderator
Where. DAFUQ. Are. The. Specs.
09-25-2015, 11:53 AM
#5817
I am a diehard Acura fan and car nut in general. So I am going to make a statement that is blasphemy to most on here and to the general auto enthusiast.
The 4G TL is better looking and overall a much better car that the 3G TL.
The only drawback with the 4G styling wise was an overt grill that should have been mono-chrome at launch with tinted headlight/tailight bezels. Thats it.
The 4G from a pure design standpoint is much better than the 3G and the passage of time shows this.
Just my 2 cents.
The 4G TL is better looking and overall a much better car that the 3G TL.
The only drawback with the 4G styling wise was an overt grill that should have been mono-chrome at launch with tinted headlight/tailight bezels. Thats it.
The 4G from a pure design standpoint is much better than the 3G and the passage of time shows this.
Just my 2 cents.
Of course it is. You own one.
09-25-2015, 12:29 PM
#5818
I am a diehard Acura fan and car nut in general. So I am going to make a statement that is blasphemy to most on here and to the general auto enthusiast.
The 4G TL is better looking and overall a much better car that the 3G TL.
The only drawback with the 4G styling wise was an overt grill that should have been mono-chrome at launch with tinted headlight/tailight bezels. Thats it.
The 4G from a pure design standpoint is much better than the 3G and the passage of time shows this.
Just my 2 cents.
The 4G TL is better looking and overall a much better car that the 3G TL.
The only drawback with the 4G styling wise was an overt grill that should have been mono-chrome at launch with tinted headlight/tailight bezels. Thats it.
The 4G from a pure design standpoint is much better than the 3G and the passage of time shows this.
Just my 2 cents.
09-25-2015, 04:27 PM
#5819
Had a CLS6 for many years with every bolt on and put maybe 150,000 miles on it. It was pure joy driving that car and I still miss it. Revving it hard every day never got old. 3rd and 4th gear were magic.
But, the TL SH-AWD is just something else. The fully bolted J37 paired with the SH-AWD is another level of bliss. When the weather turns bad, the SH-AWD wants to play. Using the gas pedal to oversteer the car through turns is something so foreign to all Honda cars that you just can't believe yourself as your coming out of turns sideways hard on the power.
And now with K-tuner further unlocking the 4G, the J37 is finally being allowed to be unleashed.
Sorry for being off topic.
Love the new NSX. I think it is perfect from a design standpoint. I do think they need to give the engine bay more detail work. That was the ONE thing that bugged me when they unveiled it.
Otherwise, I think the idea of its powertrain is truly special. Its basically a Porsche 918 drivetain (mid engine e-AWD) at a fraction of the cost with hopefully Honda reliability. Too bad Honda didnt go the Porsche route and do a high-output NA V8.
But, the TL SH-AWD is just something else. The fully bolted J37 paired with the SH-AWD is another level of bliss. When the weather turns bad, the SH-AWD wants to play. Using the gas pedal to oversteer the car through turns is something so foreign to all Honda cars that you just can't believe yourself as your coming out of turns sideways hard on the power.
And now with K-tuner further unlocking the 4G, the J37 is finally being allowed to be unleashed.
Sorry for being off topic.
Love the new NSX. I think it is perfect from a design standpoint. I do think they need to give the engine bay more detail work. That was the ONE thing that bugged me when they unveiled it.
Otherwise, I think the idea of its powertrain is truly special. Its basically a Porsche 918 drivetain (mid engine e-AWD) at a fraction of the cost with hopefully Honda reliability. Too bad Honda didnt go the Porsche route and do a high-output NA V8.
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09-25-2015, 04:36 PM
#5820
I am not saying it because I own one. I own one because I feel the way I do about it since its unveiling in August of 2008.
Had a CLS6 at the time and just waited until our good friend Mr. Depreciation made it a realistic proposition to buy the 4G.
I respect the 3G and encouraged many people to buy them especially the TL-S with the 6 speed manual. I think its an incredible design.
I am just saying that the 4G is the better looking of the two. The sheet metal detailing, the blistered fenders, the quad exhaust, the taillight-headlight assemblies, the overall proportion, the interior design/layout, the AWD, the J37, the ELS stereo, the chassis composure... all of it... the 4G>3G.
Back to the NSX...
Had a CLS6 at the time and just waited until our good friend Mr. Depreciation made it a realistic proposition to buy the 4G.
I respect the 3G and encouraged many people to buy them especially the TL-S with the 6 speed manual. I think its an incredible design.
I am just saying that the 4G is the better looking of the two. The sheet metal detailing, the blistered fenders, the quad exhaust, the taillight-headlight assemblies, the overall proportion, the interior design/layout, the AWD, the J37, the ELS stereo, the chassis composure... all of it... the 4G>3G.
Back to the NSX...
09-25-2015, 04:42 PM
#5821
The only shimmer of hope being the TSX? Acura's line-up "definitely not as bad as it was in the early 2000s?"
What is this guy smoking? Acura's entire line-up from early 2000's was solid. Much better than what they're offering now. Just look at the sales numbers. The TSX wasn't their "only shimmer of hope." The TSX didn't even hit its stride until the mid-2000's (2005-2007).
I'd say the 2G TL was a big success when it came out in 1998. It sold much better than what the TLX is doing now. In its 1st full year (1999), it sold 56,566 units in the U.S. The TLX is closer to hitting 45K units than 50K units this year (its 1st full year). And the 2G TL continued to sell well until the end of its life cycle.
2G TL: TSX:
3G TL:
RL sales numbers were also much stronger back then vs what they are now for the RLX.
The RSX sold better than what the ILX is doing now too.
RSX:
What he should have wrote was that the only shimmer of hope now for Acura is the TLX, because every other sedan in the line-up has been a sales disappointment.
What is this guy smoking? Acura's entire line-up from early 2000's was solid. Much better than what they're offering now. Just look at the sales numbers. The TSX wasn't their "only shimmer of hope." The TSX didn't even hit its stride until the mid-2000's (2005-2007).
I'd say the 2G TL was a big success when it came out in 1998. It sold much better than what the TLX is doing now. In its 1st full year (1999), it sold 56,566 units in the U.S. The TLX is closer to hitting 45K units than 50K units this year (its 1st full year). And the 2G TL continued to sell well until the end of its life cycle.
2G TL: TSX:
2003 - 18,932
2004 - 30,365
2005 - 34,856
2006 - 38,035
2007 - 33,037
2008 - 31,998
2009 - 28,650
And when the 3G TL came out, the sales success of the TL line skyrocketed.2004 - 30,365
2005 - 34,856
2006 - 38,035
2007 - 33,037
2008 - 31,998
2009 - 28,650
3G TL:
2004 - 77,895
2005 - 78,218
2006 - 71,348
2007 - 58,545
2008 - 46,766
2005 - 78,218
2006 - 71,348
2007 - 58,545
2008 - 46,766
RL sales numbers were also much stronger back then vs what they are now for the RLX.
2000 - 14,827
2001 - 10,723
2002 - 9,392
2003 - 6,829
2004 - 8,753
2005 - 17,572
2006 - 11,501
2013 - 5,053 (1st year RLX sales)
2014 - 3,413
2015 - 1413 (thru July)
2001 - 10,723
2002 - 9,392
2003 - 6,829
2004 - 8,753
2005 - 17,572
2006 - 11,501
2013 - 5,053 (1st year RLX sales)
2014 - 3,413
2015 - 1413 (thru July)
The RSX sold better than what the ILX is doing now too.
RSX:
2002 - 30,117
2003 - 24,292
2004 - 21,940
2005 - 20,809
2006 - 16,996
ILX:2003 - 24,292
2004 - 21,940
2005 - 20,809
2006 - 16,996
2012 - 12,251
2013 - 20,430 (1st full year of sales)
2014 - 17,854
2015 - 10,084 (thru July)
2013 - 20,430 (1st full year of sales)
2014 - 17,854
2015 - 10,084 (thru July)
What he should have wrote was that the only shimmer of hope now for Acura is the TLX, because every other sedan in the line-up has been a sales disappointment.
- IN THE METAL WIDE BODY (a la M3/m4)
- Twin Turbos
- e AWD or regular SH-AWD
- 400hp/400tq
They wont do it. They will never do it. One stamping for the rear quarter panel for the life of the car....
Basically, I want the look of the TLX race car in a production layout
09-25-2015, 04:46 PM
#5822
Team Owner
So about that NSX...
09-25-2015, 05:28 PM
#5824
Azine Jabroni
09-26-2015, 12:45 PM
#5825
Senior Moderator
Originally Posted by TacoBello
So about that NSX...
Vaporware.....
09-26-2015, 06:48 PM
#5826
Azine Jabroni
10-05-2015, 05:12 PM
#5827
Suzuka Master
Is there any truth to all these "baby nsx" rumors going around the last couple days or is it just more b.s. for pageviews
Ya ya I know there needs to be a real NSX before a baby NSX blah blah
Ya ya I know there needs to be a real NSX before a baby NSX blah blah
10-05-2015, 05:14 PM
#5828
Team Owner
if NSX is vaperware, what does that make the Baby NSX?
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10-05-2015, 07:37 PM
#5830
Senior Moderator
NSX...? 
10-08-2015, 04:56 PM
#5832
They should have sent Michelle Christensen over there to talk to J about design... a much better interviewee and easier on the eyes 
10-15-2015, 05:53 PM
#5833
Burning Brakes
I wish he could have spoken like he was more educated about the NSX and interested in showing off the "supercarness" of the new NSX.
Leno: "Tell me about the brakes."
Ikeda: "The car is going to be really fast and needs all of that to stop it"
I think Leno knows that.
Laughable. I guess the NSX is going to have to sell itself. Just like the RLX.
Acura still has a hard time with marketing.
Leno: "Tell me about the brakes."
Ikeda: "The car is going to be really fast and needs all of that to stop it"
I think Leno knows that.
Laughable. I guess the NSX is going to have to sell itself. Just like the RLX.
Acura still has a hard time with marketing.
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10-15-2015, 08:02 PM
#5834
Team Owner
My friend at Acura told me they released the NSX's specs... 550hp....
I told him he is almost 2 years behind.
I told him he is almost 2 years behind.
10-15-2015, 09:01 PM
#5835
Senior Moderator
10-16-2015, 10:17 AM
#5836
AZ Community Team
Acura Dealers Prep for Delayed 2017 Acura NSX
Acura Dealers Prep for Delayed 2017 Acura NSX | Edmunds.com
Acura dealers who will sell the NSX are required to have a special area in the showroom where the car's exterior colors will be displayed on a wall along with available leather choices and accessories.
There will be no demonstrators for customers to drive, Edmunds has learned.
"The interest in this car already is so high people are already making deals with dealers to get the first cars sight unseen," said Acura spokesman Chuck Schifsky, in a recent interview.
He added that customers understand the delay.
"Customers are definitely willing to wait to make sure the car is right," Schifsky said.
Acura wanted to address performance concerns before launching its most expensive model. Pricing hasn't been announced, but the NSX is expected to carry a price tag of around $150,000.
"The goal was to get the NSX to a performance level we figured customers would be happy with," Schifsky said. "So it has taken a little bit longer, but not a significant amount of time."
Select Acura dealers will start taking orders at the end of the year and buyers will receive their cars early next year.
Originally, customer deliveries were expected in the fourth quarter of 2015.
While Acura has not announced a specific model-year designation, industry sources tell Edmunds the NSX will be labeled as a 2017 model.
The supercar is equipped with a twin-turbocharged V6 engine that powers the rear tires and an electric motor at each of the front tires, producing over 550 combined horsepower. Acura has not released a specific horsepower rating. A nine-speed dual-clutch transmission is standard.
Schifsky said the automaker decided to switch to a twin-turbocharged V6 early in the NSX's development, which has contributed to the delay. The original engine planned for the NSX did not have a twin turbo.
In addition, engineers switched from a transverse-mounted V6 engine to a longitudinally mounted engine, requiring a re-engineering of the engine compartment.
"Anytime you do a supercar, you want to make sure you get it right," Schifsky said.
The new NSX marks the first return of the model since the original NSX, which was produced from 1991-2005.
Edmunds says: There's no second chance when launching a supercar, so the delay gives Acura a few extra months to create the perfect NSX.
There will be no demonstrators for customers to drive, Edmunds has learned.
"The interest in this car already is so high people are already making deals with dealers to get the first cars sight unseen," said Acura spokesman Chuck Schifsky, in a recent interview.
He added that customers understand the delay.
"Customers are definitely willing to wait to make sure the car is right," Schifsky said.
Acura wanted to address performance concerns before launching its most expensive model. Pricing hasn't been announced, but the NSX is expected to carry a price tag of around $150,000.
"The goal was to get the NSX to a performance level we figured customers would be happy with," Schifsky said. "So it has taken a little bit longer, but not a significant amount of time."
Select Acura dealers will start taking orders at the end of the year and buyers will receive their cars early next year.
Originally, customer deliveries were expected in the fourth quarter of 2015.
While Acura has not announced a specific model-year designation, industry sources tell Edmunds the NSX will be labeled as a 2017 model.
The supercar is equipped with a twin-turbocharged V6 engine that powers the rear tires and an electric motor at each of the front tires, producing over 550 combined horsepower. Acura has not released a specific horsepower rating. A nine-speed dual-clutch transmission is standard.
Schifsky said the automaker decided to switch to a twin-turbocharged V6 early in the NSX's development, which has contributed to the delay. The original engine planned for the NSX did not have a twin turbo.
In addition, engineers switched from a transverse-mounted V6 engine to a longitudinally mounted engine, requiring a re-engineering of the engine compartment.
"Anytime you do a supercar, you want to make sure you get it right," Schifsky said.
The new NSX marks the first return of the model since the original NSX, which was produced from 1991-2005.
Edmunds says: There's no second chance when launching a supercar, so the delay gives Acura a few extra months to create the perfect NSX.
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10-16-2015, 01:08 PM
#5838
I drive a Subata.
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JEEZ
really?
really?
10-17-2015, 01:35 AM
#5839
Suzuka Master
10-17-2015, 01:50 AM
#5840
Chapter Leader (Southern Region)
Vapo!!! *pshhhh*
Hopefully they can work on teh specs in the mean time.
Hopefully they can work on teh specs in the mean time.