Type-S is almost here.
#641
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A photo of the engine leaked about a month ago.
https://www.vtec.net/news/news-item?...tem_id=1442374
https://www.vtec.net/news/news-item?...tem_id=1442374
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#644
They are using seacoast interior in combination with a few of the Type-S exterior colors. Surprised me. My wife loved her Whtie on Seacoast RLX when she had it.
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From what I can make out
TB is on the passenger side, likely to connect to intake piping going to the front mounted intercooler
Coolant piping on the passenger side
Cam sensors (two) per head
High pressure fuel pump seems likely on the rear head.
Water pump seems to be internal (Chain driven)
Small twin scroll turbo will sit on drivers side
Air box likely to sit towards the front
A large engine cover to hide most of everything.
A bit of a complex design including the SH-AWD setup with the exhaust pipe running towards the firewall. It will look similar to a 2006 Saab 9-3 with the 2.8L DOHC Turbo V6 setup or the Cadillac 2.8L V6 Turbo
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"Seems like a bunch of bookies trying to cover the bets. If its quick is a win & if its slow it still a win because we did not really care about the speed."
Every time any info is leaked positive or negative the "Need For Speed" on the forum quickly changes. Would be nice to see the Type-S car after being among the missing for 13 years actually mean something other than a slick marketing tag line.
Expect the car salesmen are having a lot of fun with the spin.
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The distance between the DOHC's is fairly small and looks similar to the Honda patent drawing, that drawing was not for cam over bucket, but a very short cam follower and narrow valve angle
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Agree said this in one post:
"Seems like a bunch of bookies trying to cover the bets. If its quick is a win & if its slow it still a win because we did not really care about the speed."
Every time any info is leaked positive or negative the "Need For Speed" on the forum quickly changes. Would be nice to see the Type-S car after being among the missing for 13 years actually mean something other than a slick marketing tag line.
Expect the car salesmen are having a lot of fun with the spin.
"Seems like a bunch of bookies trying to cover the bets. If its quick is a win & if its slow it still a win because we did not really care about the speed."
Every time any info is leaked positive or negative the "Need For Speed" on the forum quickly changes. Would be nice to see the Type-S car after being among the missing for 13 years actually mean something other than a slick marketing tag line.
Expect the car salesmen are having a lot of fun with the spin.
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From what I can make out
TB is on the passenger side, likely to connect to intake piping going to the front mounted intercooler
Coolant piping on the passenger side
Cam sensors (two) per head
High pressure fuel pump seems likely on the rear head.
Water pump seems to be internal (Chain driven)
Small twin scroll turbo will sit on drivers side
Air box likely to sit towards the front
A large engine cover to hide most of everything.
A bit of a complex design including the SH-AWD setup with the exhaust pipe running towards the firewall. It will look similar to a 2006 Saab 9-3 with the 2.8L DOHC Turbo V6 setup or the Cadillac 2.8L V6 Turbo
TB is on the passenger side, likely to connect to intake piping going to the front mounted intercooler
Coolant piping on the passenger side
Cam sensors (two) per head
High pressure fuel pump seems likely on the rear head.
Water pump seems to be internal (Chain driven)
Small twin scroll turbo will sit on drivers side
Air box likely to sit towards the front
A large engine cover to hide most of everything.
A bit of a complex design including the SH-AWD setup with the exhaust pipe running towards the firewall. It will look similar to a 2006 Saab 9-3 with the 2.8L DOHC Turbo V6 setup or the Cadillac 2.8L V6 Turbo
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I know a lot of people are moving over to crossovers/suvs of course so sales are expected to be down but damn..seeing Acuras sales report they aren't pushing many tlx.
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I thought about it more. Seems they were better off trying to design a "Hot V" setup, but even that has it's own issues. I'd be more concern about the turbo sitting right above the transmission and with the additional heat coming off the turbo / down pipe. This design has been used by others who turbo charged their TL / Accords.
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Can't wait to see the color in person too. Hopefully Acura can move these though. Every dealer around me has 10+ TLX sitting on the lot, not moving. I've only seen 1 21 TLX on road so far since they came out in November and I live in a pretty populated area.
I know a lot of people are moving over to crossovers/suvs of course so sales are expected to be down but damn..seeing Acuras sales report they aren't pushing many tlx.
I know a lot of people are moving over to crossovers/suvs of course so sales are expected to be down but damn..seeing Acuras sales report they aren't pushing many tlx.
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#660
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Wait so performance isn’t a big deal and nobody cares about numbers, so why even get a type S then? Just get the regular TLX. Sounds like a way to excuse a potential let down. Acura definitely cares or they wouldn’t even make the car.
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#661
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There was a similar color for the 2001 CL, unofficially known as pimp-daddy-gold.
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#662
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I actually looked up that color awhile back. Funny name that you call it. I think it was called Sundance Gold Pearl. They look similar but I’ve seen photos of the Tiger Eye Pearl and that color depending on where the sun hits has this two tone affect on it. Can’t wait to see it in person.
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At a time when a full loaded pickup truck can go for $80,000 performance sedans etc are not all that exclusive or expensive in comparison.
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#664
I kind of agree with this. The 2.0T is getting ridiculed for small displacement but if Honda knows how to make something, it's the 4-cyl aka 4-banger. I think the 1.5T in CRV, Civic, Accord is risky because it's too new and it's the "L" series but the K-series in the Accord 2.0T, TLX and RDX is tried and true, no nonsense about it. The A-Spec is the sweet spot; the only gripe I have with it is the price. I wouldn't mind blue A-SPEC SH-AWD but it would have to be $10K under MSRP to even consider it, especially how good my 2.0T Accord is and the fact I got it for under $28K brand new.
#665
Well this is a Type S thread. If you want bang for the buck and don't care about numbers the regular TLX will get you there. If you are putting out over 50K and maybe push closer to 60 with tax and to get some extra options it better have some respectable numbers. The last V6 TLX was good bang for the buck but the performance was underwhelming even compared to a decade plus 3rd gen type S even though it boasted more HP. I still believe the trans in the type S will have a lot to do with the performance. If you have to run it in a sport + type mode to get it to really move that would be rather bad. I suspect it will put up decent numbers. Particularly if the 355hp rating is understated (which I doubt). Acura had to restate HP numbers lower on the 3rd gen by about 20hp as they were overstated initially. One test drive should be enough to know. I knew when I first test drove the 1st gen TLX it was slower than my 3rd gen type S. The trans they used in that either programming or gearing or something just didn't seem well matched to the motor.
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You really think all the performance sedans, coupes & convertibles sit in the garage & are not daily drivers, seriously? If thats true I think some large areas of the country best get some bicycles instead of walking to work. Were cars like the Ferrari 458 & Porsche Cayenne Turbo, Corvette in the school pick up line every day when I was ferrying the grandkids in my TL. When I got the 2011 335is it was pretty much anonymous in the line. Most people buy cars to drive not look at sitting in the garage.
At a time when a full loaded pickup truck can go for $80,000 performance sedans etc are not all that exclusive or expensive in comparison.
At a time when a full loaded pickup truck can go for $80,000 performance sedans etc are not all that exclusive or expensive in comparison.
Not sure if you know this but not every person in the car world thinks and buys the same as you. I know people who have bought 2 Honda Crosstours and keep one in the garage to keep the miles off it. I know another with a Supra who daily's it with over 700hp. Not everyone thinks the same man. Just because that one guy picks up his kid at school in a Vette to make his kid happy on the drive home doesn't mean he drives the thing everywhere he goes.
The problem with all the complaints here is that everyone is thinking Acura is supposed to be thinking like everyone here.
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#667
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Numbers with BMW don’t mean much because it’s always understated. There were many factors why got one. Actual tested numbers was one of about 10 reasons. Bang for buck wise this isn’t going to be much of a bargain if the car turns out to be much slower than the competition. You’re talking about a nearly 60k car. Hardly a bargain if it can’t keep up with the competition that costs the same.
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Main problem with the A-Spec V6 sh-awd was too much flash and not enough dash. A good reliable daily driver but I never had the urge to just drive it for no particular reason. That was something I missed in that car. If I really like a car I will wash it once a week. The 18 A-Spec was a one a month or so wash.
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Not sure if you know this but not every person in the car world thinks and buys the same as you. I know people who have bought 2 Honda Crosstours and keep one in the garage to keep the miles off it. I know another with a Supra who daily's it with over 700hp. Not everyone thinks the same man. Just because that one guy picks up his kid at school in a Vette to make his kid happy on the drive home doesn't mean he drives the thing everywhere he goes.
The problem with all the complaints here is that everyone is thinking Acura is supposed to be thinking like everyone here.
The problem with all the complaints here is that everyone is thinking Acura is supposed to be thinking like everyone here.
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Numbers with BMW don’t mean much because it’s always understated. There were many factors why got one. Actual tested numbers was one of about 10 reasons. Bang for buck wise this isn’t going to be much of a bargain if the car turns out to be much slower than the competition. You’re talking about a nearly 60k car. Hardly a bargain if it can’t keep up with the competition that costs the same.
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Pimp Daddy Gold was the stuff back in the early 2000's. It was a great color! TBH, I forgot about it until this post, and yeah...it does look a lot like the new Tiger Eye Pearl. I am surprised many of us OG Acura-TL.com members and early Acura owners haven't mentioned PDG more
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As for the cars in the school line not everyone who buys a high end car is a collector or investor that will park the cars for 20 years. Point I was trying to make is on a daily basis seeing an exotic is a very common occurrence. Performance versions of the German trio are common daily transportation. The new entry are starting to show up in larger numbers are the performance versions of the Euro SUV's so thats adds in Porsche Cayenne.
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Pimp Daddy Gold was the stuff back in the early 2000's. It was a great color! TBH, I forgot about it until this post, and yeah...it does look a lot like the new Tiger Eye Pearl. I am surprised many of us OG Acura-TL.com members and early Acura owners haven't mentioned PDG more
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As for the cars in the school line not everyone who buys a high end car is a collector or investor that will park the cars for 20 years. Point I was trying to make is on a daily basis seeing an exotic is a very common occurrence. Performance versions of the German trio are common daily transportation. The new entry are starting to show up in larger numbers are the performance versions of the Euro SUV's so thats adds in Porsche Cayenne.
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#676
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Went the B58 route and never looking back......Tune, Tranny Flash and E30 equates to some Seriousssssss power that will blow you away.
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I know some people are complaining that the new Civic looks too "boring" and like a Jetta, but honestly I think that's what people want. Most people aren't looking to buy a Gundam model with wheels.
In any case, anyone who can look at the ILX interior and think "Yep, this is a nicer Civic" definitely needs their eyes checked. The new Civic interior looks fantastic.
In any case, anyone who can look at the ILX interior and think "Yep, this is a nicer Civic" definitely needs their eyes checked. The new Civic interior looks fantastic.
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