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I liked the article for the specs, exterior dimensions and what not all in one place. The TLX is pretty long and that's a big negative for me since I need to do a ton of tight urban parking.
Thanks for the article. First time I saw actual numbers ( Engine: 3.0-liter turbocharged V6 | 355 horsepower | 354 pound-feet of torque ).
For the 2021 TLX 2.0T I have 195 x 75 x 57 . What I'm wondering is if it includes the side-mirrors. I'm trying to figure-out what space I need in garage (since my Accord-V6 just barely fits). We have so much stuff, but I refuse to get lazy and not park the cars inside the garage as intended.
Yeah, for comparisons, I online-built a 2020 Audi-A4 quattro the other day. Works out to be a bit more expensive and it's a smaller car.
Thanks for the article. First time I saw actual numbers ( Engine: 3.0-liter turbocharged V6 | 355 horsepower | 354 pound-feet of torque ).
For the 2021 TLX 2.0T I have 195 x 75 x 57 . What I'm wondering is if it includes the side-mirrors. I'm trying to figure-out what space I need in garage (since my Accord-V6 just barely fits). We have so much stuff, but I refuse to get lazy and not park the cars inside the garage as intended.
Yeah, for comparisons, I online-built a 2020 Audi-A4 quattro the other day. Works out to be a bit more expensive and it's a smaller car.
It's a bit smaller externally, but internally I suspect it'll actually be roomier.
Thanks for the article. First time I saw actual numbers ( Engine: 3.0-liter turbocharged V6 | 355 horsepower | 354 pound-feet of torque ).
For the 2021 TLX 2.0T I have 195 x 75 x 57 . What I'm wondering is if it includes the side-mirrors. I'm trying to figure-out what space I need in garage (since my Accord-V6 just barely fits). We have so much stuff, but I refuse to get lazy and not park the cars inside the garage as intended.
Yeah, for comparisons, I online-built a 2020 Audi-A4 quattro the other day. Works out to be a bit more expensive and it's a smaller car.
Is the new V6 still J Series based, like the K20T?
that is the trend right now. release car, then the following year, release higher output car.
it's not just the supra that is doing it.
if you think about it, it's a smart way to always increase sales.
before this trend, you would see a huge influx of sales at the beginning of model release, then slowly dies down throughout the course of the cars life
Not sure what Toyota is doing with the Supra. Based on the first year - second year performance numbers the power was always there. Maybe just a slight computer calibration to change the power curve.
Not sure what Toyota is doing with the Supra. Based on the first year - second year performance numbers the power was always there. Maybe just a slight computer calibration to change the power curve.
There's actually some hardware changes. New pistons to reduce compression ratio for more boost, an integrated exhaust manifold, and new cylinder heads. It's not strictly software.
There's actually some hardware changes. New pistons to reduce compression ratio for more boost, an integrated exhaust manifold, and new cylinder heads. It's not strictly software.
I didn't even know that Toyota had brought-back the Supra. I saw it when my brother suggest I look at 2020 Camry TRD.
Yeah, I had a 1983 Celica and there was a time that the Supra was on my "next car Short-List". It's just not practical for me as a daily-driver but it would make a nice 3rd-4th car if I had room to park that many.
I didn't even know that Toyota had brought-back the Supra. I saw it when my brother suggest I look at 2020 Camry TRD.
Yeah, I had a 1983 Celica and there was a time that the Supra was on my "next car Short-List". It's just not practical for me as a daily-driver but it would make a nice 3rd-4th car if I had room to park that many.
Did not want to expand the garage so I just widened the driveway at the house.
There's actually some hardware changes. New pistons to reduce compression ratio for more boost, an integrated exhaust manifold, and new cylinder heads. It's not strictly software.
Good catch. Yeah saw that after I posted. Supra is a real runner, but for me they missed it on the bodywork.
Tesla1856 We already decided ... next house must have a 3-car garage.
The Supra is this car with a Toyota developed coupe body & some in house performance changes. To me an excellent car, excellent performance, excellent price if you can get past the styling.
Two issues for me, don't like the styling & it does not come in a roadster version.
Don't see a next house in my future. My totally un-neat garage
Last edited by BEAR-AvHistory; 08-06-2020 at 11:07 AM.
Seen both cars in person several times. While I liked the Z4 right off the bat and still prefer its styling, the Supra has grown on me massively. I think it looks great.
Allegedly the Supra will go through iterative improvements to maintain sales numbers throughout its life cycle. Of course some higher up in the development team pulled off some mental gymnastics to justify the addition of the radiator support braces, which were previously seen as "not needed".
I still really like the car, but it indeed is just a Toyota Z4. Time will tell if it gets anything to truly separate it from the Z4 besides a hardtop and suspension tuning.
The support braces were brought up below. Initially for the first year the Z4 had them & the Supra did not. That said on the Z4 they were fugly & looked like braces taken from a baby highchair as a quick & dirty fix. Personally thought they looked like crap on a car with a MSRP over $72,000.
Original Braces
New CNC anodized alloy braces by Burgher Motor Sports (BMS) makers of the JB4 tuners. No real change in performance on the street but much nicer to look at when you open the lid.
Last edited by BEAR-AvHistory; 08-06-2020 at 06:50 PM.
dont get me wrong; it's a beautiful car. but will it be enough to move many many units? probably not. our economy is shit.
to me; it's gonna go the way of the Impala. the newest Impala was a great looking car. didnt make a dent in sales and dropped the model all together
a pretty face isnt enough to move units.
a great driving experience akin to the germans isnt enough to move units.
I was really hoping that I would like this car but unfortunately it just doesn't look like it will be for me. Exterior wise there's way too much going on yet somehow it still looks kind of boring, and it is way too long for my needs as well. Interior wise I am just not a fan.
I will reserve my final judgement for when I see one in person but as of now this car is being removed from my list. Unfortunate, as I really did have high hopes.
I think you’re greatly underestimating how much Acura’s target customers purchase on price and perceived reliability. Considering that the 1G TLX got a very lukewarm reception (at best) from automotive journalists and it still sold alright is all you need to know about the type of people (read: not enthusiasts) who are buying these cars. We like to think that Acura is better than the alternatives because of its sporty lean, but to non-enthusiasts who make up the majority of buyers and are looking for a midsize entry level luxury sedan, it’s all about price, reliability, features, comfort, looks, and performance, roughly in that order.
You can only rest on your laurels for so long. everyone dumped the 1st gen tlx when they found out how horrible it is to drive.
All the acura buyers in the past have been burned and burned again. who wants take that chance!?
Last edited by justnspace; 08-15-2020 at 08:53 AM.
I wouldn’t say the 1G is horrible to drive, at least not the 2.4L. Yeah, the 3.5L with the ZF9 is a mixed bag, but the 2.4L is exactly what it sounds like and meets expectation: a nicer, quieter 4cylinder Accord with a fast shifting transmission. For the price as a comfortable commuter car that doesn’t trip over itself on fun roads, it’s hard to beat. Does it live up to the way it was advertised as “that kind of thrill?” Heck no, but as a car saying it’s horrible to drive is a bit hyperbolic.
automakers are underestimating what people want.
here's a very surprising statistic...the all new chevy blazer is Chevy's fastest selling model.
At the end of first quarter 2019, it had sold 3,023 units in the United States. By the fourth quarter of 2019, it immediately swelled to 23,008 units sold, and closed out 2019 with 58,115 units sold overall, making it one of
Chevrolet's fastest selling model.
we can also look at Cadillac! Very beautiful cars, very beautiful driving experience. Did not move units.
yes of course I exaggerated. but who wants to take that chance after they've been burned and burned again?
The people that actually drive them? The 2.4 has aways been an excellent car to drive. The current 3.5 is long removed from the 2015 model, especially the 19 and 20. In terms of actual sales, clearly the current economic situation will have a dampening effect, and price point will be important.
As for looks, in comparing this to my ASpec, the car looks great overall, with some improvements in the lines and the reduced front overhang. I think I prefer the back end of my car a little more, but I would need to see it in person. There is no question that the interior is more luxurious, but again, one needs to actually walk around the car, sit in it and of course drive it! It will be interesting to see how the 2.0 litre version does on 3 fronts;
1. Attracting new Acura customers
2. Attracting existing 2.4 customers
3. Converting existing 3.5 folks
That white one looks massive, much bigger than expected. The blue looked stunning in all pictures, but all these "in the wild" pics have left me wondering if it was camera magic. Not that it matters, I was out as soon as auto only was confirmed. But I would like to see this succeed, as that leads to a better chance of Acura building something I'd like down the road. An AWD, upscale Type R? Yup, sign me up.
are you willing to put down a deposit for a pre-order?
I'm only two years into my 4 year lease, and love this car, especially as it's an ASpec Elite (Advance) which Acura Canada did only for the 2018 year for the 2.4. I will drive the new one and see if i want to come out before then, likely next fall. From what I have seen, I'll be staying with a TLX, but the proof is always in the driving.
They need to start designing some nice looking wheels. Not just in terms of appearance but also better fitment, too. At least the Type-S has good fitment and wheel gap.
I'm sure those matte black wheels are pre-production rollers, but man they aren't doing the car justice at all. I can't imagine any finish doing them justice.
They need to start designing some nice looking wheels. Not just in terms of appearance but also better fitment, too. At least the Type-S has good fitment and wheel gap.
I'm sure those matte black wheels are pre-production rollers, but man they aren't doing the car justice at all. I can't imagine any finish doing them justice.
Honda/Acura are notorious for being really conservative about wheel specs. 45s and 50s offsets. They just need to be a LITTLE lower and a TAD bit wider.
Honda/Acura are notorious for being really conservative about wheel specs. 45s and 50s offsets. They just need to be a LITTLE lower and a TAD bit wider.
Agreed. They have gotten a lot better though
Behold. A 2G TL-S, what brought me to this site in the first place:
08-04-2020, 02:41 PM
My totally un-neat garage
